2019 deficit to exceed 1 trillion...

va87eer

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Hopefully there will be some substantial spending cuts in the next budget. Now is the time to do it before the economy overheats.
 

mule_eer

Freshman
May 6, 2002
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They are?
The conservative politicians are cease to be conservative about spending when they have control. They are mighty concerned about the deficit when someone else is signing things into law. It's right in front of all our faces. I'm not saying the liberals would be more frugal. I don't believe that. That's why I get on my soap box every so often about electing people who don't act like children in general, specifically about the budget in this case.
 

Airport

All-American
Dec 12, 2001
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The conservative politicians are cease to be conservative about spending when they have control. They are mighty concerned about the deficit when someone else is signing things into law. It's right in front of all our faces. I'm not saying the liberals would be more frugal. I don't believe that. That's why I get on my soap box every so often about electing people who don't act like children in general, specifically about the budget in this case.
I heard one economist say that if growth was over 2.6% and unemployment stayed down, the tax cut pays for itself. Growth has to be in excess of 2.6%
 

dave

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May 29, 2001
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The conservative politicians are cease to be conservative about spending when they have control. They are mighty concerned about the deficit when someone else is signing things into law. It's right in front of all our faces. I'm not saying the liberals would be more frugal. I don't believe that. That's why I get on my soap box every so often about electing people who don't act like children in general, specifically about the budget in this case.
A lot of what you are calling conservatives were nover fiscally conservative. They are why the tea party made headway. Of course you realize the hypocrisy of liberals calling out conservatives on spending. You said as much. The problem was CRs were not getting the job done and compromise is a two way street. It doesnt help when compromise is made and then people get attacked for it.
 

mneilmont

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Jan 23, 2008
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Remember when people who called themselves conservatives cared about deficits and debt? That was pre-Reagan.

Now they’re apostles of borrow and spend.
That should surprise no one. Most of us that are conservative tell you that the current two parties are Liberals and extremely liberal. Liberals give lip service about debt and deficit. Extremely liberals say it is government responsibility to spend to grow or maintain the economy. There is no room for conservatives in that two party system.
 

mneilmont

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Remember when people who called themselves conservatives cared about deficits and debt? That was pre-Reagan.

Now they’re apostles of borrow and spend.
Obviously the debt has not been an issue since FY 1957 - Ike years. That was the last fiscal year the National Debt was smaller at the end of the year instead of beginning. All other years, we had to borrow to maintain operations. That is a nation's shame.
 

Keyser76

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Apr 7, 2010
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Hell, Deficits don't matter Cheney told us that. Well, they matter to the GOP and their genius base when there is a Democrat in the White House but them ***** can't recognize hypocrisy, lol.
 

mneilmont

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Jan 23, 2008
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Hell, Deficits don't matter Cheney told us that. Well, they matter to the GOP and their genius base when there is a Democrat in the White House but them ****s can't recognize hypocrisy, lol.
What the VP was alluding to was the deficit does not matter if you stimulate GDP growth enough to cover/pay off that deficit.

The problem with that philosophy is the debt that is supposed to be paid down with the growth money is never executed. They are afraid taking money out of the growing economy to pay down debt will cause the economy growth to cease and potentially cause recession. Thus, debt does not get paid down.
 

dave

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May 29, 2001
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Hell, Deficits don't matter Cheney told us that. Well, they matter to the GOP and their genius base when there is a Democrat in the White House but them ****s can't recognize hypocrisy, lol.
Speaki g of hypocrisy....dont remember you speaking about about spending when your guy doubled our debt.
 

Soaring Eagle 74

Freshman
Jan 4, 2008
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I heard one economist say that if growth was over 2.6% and unemployment stayed down, the tax cut pays for itself. Growth has to be in excess of 2.6%

Well, growth is over 2.6%, unemployment is staying flat, and the tax cut isn’t paying for itself, just like it hasn’t over nearly 40 years. How long will you guys hold onto the supply-side BS? Cut spending and increase taxes, or dramatically cut spending if you want to eliminate the deficit. Or, just continue to borrow money and dump the debt on your children and grandchildren. Which is exactly what you’ll do.
 

Mntneer

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Oct 7, 2001
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Well, growth is over 2.6%, unemployment is staying flat, and the tax cut isn’t paying for itself, just like it hasn’t over nearly 40 years. How long will you guys hold onto the supply-side BS? Cut spending and increase taxes, or dramatically cut spending if you want to eliminate the deficit. Or, just continue to borrow money and dump the debt on your children and grandchildren. Which is exactly what you’ll do.

How long are you guys going to hold onto the demand-side BS.
 

WVU82_rivals

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blah, blah, blah...

we just went through eight years of unlimited spending and HAVE ZERO to show for it...

and you assclowns didn't say a word...

Trump has saved us, the American tax payer, billions already...

h y p o c r i t e s . . .
 

mule_eer

Freshman
May 6, 2002
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blah, blah, blah...

we just went through eight years of unlimited spending and HAVE ZERO to show for it...

and you assclowns didn't say a word...

Trump has saved us, the American tax payer, billions already...

h y p o c r i t e s . . .
The facts don't support your claims, unless the Treasury Dept is part of the deep state conspiracy.
 

WVU82_rivals

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May 29, 2001
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Study: Trump has eliminated $86B in regs | TheHill
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Report: Trump Rolls Back $60 Billion More in Regulatory Savings ...
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Apr 20, 2017 - President Trump and Congress have saved an additional $60 billion in ... Rolling back just five regulations could save taxpayers billions.


Did Donald Trump cut $18 billion worth of red tape, as Mike Pence ...
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Claim: Says President Donald Trump "has signed more laws cutting through federal red tape than any president in American history and has already saved businesses...
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Feb 2, 2008
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Study: Trump has eliminated $86B in regs | TheHill
thehill.com/regulation/329720-study-trump-has-eliminated-86b-in-regs
Apr 20, 2017 - President Trump has saved taxpayers more than $86 billion in regulatory costs during his first three months in the White House, according to a ...


Trump Saves Taxpayers $1.4 Billion On Air Force One Contract | The ...
dailycaller.com/2018/07/18/trump-air-force-one/
1 day ago - President Donald Trump has struck a deal with The Boeing Company for a new generation of two Air Force One aircrafts at a lower cost than ...


Report: Trump Rolls Back $60 Billion More in Regulatory Savings ...
freebeacon.com/issues/report-trump-rolls-back-60-billion-regulatory-savings/
Apr 20, 2017 - President Trump and Congress have saved an additional $60 billion in ... Rolling back just five regulations could save taxpayers billions.


Did Donald Trump cut $18 billion worth of red tape, as Mike Pence ...
www.politifact.com/truth-o.../did-donald-trump-cut-18-billion-worth-red-tape-mik/
Claim: Says President Donald Trump "has signed more laws cutting through federal red tape than any president in American history and has already saved businesses...
That doesn’t jive with cashflow. We’re negative. If I stop spending $50 a day on weed and start spending $200 a day on blow, I didn’t save $50. I increased cash outflow a net -$150.
 

dave

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May 29, 2001
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That doesn’t jive with cashflow. We’re negative. If I stop spending $50 a day on weed and start spending $200 a day on blow, I didn’t save $50. I increased cash outflow a net -$150.
That is nuts. Every time I spend 59 bucks at Kohls the receipt says I saved 230 dollars. Are you suggesting this is ******** sir?
 
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