CNN won't promote this poll

[atlkvb]

atlkvb, you should know by now, the far left would believe the moon is made of green cheese before accepting any and all positive Trump news, and they will come up with any and all rationale to see otherwise, accept and enjoy, its all good.

You know this, and I know this, but they don't know this. I'm simply trying to prepare them to brace for what is still coming because they won't like how it makes their side looks, and if it helps Trump look better they're really going to lose it!

 

[79eer]

They know it

 

[atlkvb]

They know it

I find it hard to believe they don't.

 

[Boomboom521]

Time. It reveals all Truth boom. Patience is neded to let time reveal what Truth has to offer.

In Time, we'll see the Truth because it is the only thing that can withstand its test. The test of time will reveal the Truth about this whole affair.

Ironically, as more time passes while we wait for the full Truth, elements of it do become exposed and we get a much clearer picture. What we know today in time, is much greater than what we knew 6 months ago, and the Truth is not kind to the guilty or liars nor is it pointing to Trump as the one who was up to no good. Trump isn't hiding anything, even if he's holding off on what he knows so far. He's giving it more time, we should too.

Patience boom...patience.

What I KNOW is that leaks (when leaking information that hurts Trump) are bad and usually playing at a political narrative, but not when they leak info that hurts Obama according to the right. The left says the same tired thing.

I KNOW that anonymous sources (when used by conservative media outlets) are bad and usually playing at a political narrative, but not when they are used by liberal media outlets. The right days the same tired thing.

I KNOW that the email thing, Benghazi, FISA abuses, Clinton pay for play, Seth Rich, Obama’s birthcertificate controversy, Uranium 1, Gay maker in juice boxes, pizzagate, the great crusade against the climate change hoax are all perpetuated and claimed as gospel by the same media groups.

So.....forgive me if my faith in the conservative media web isn’t absolute

 

[atlkvb]

What I KNOW is that leaks (when leaking information that hurts Trump) are bad and usually playing at a political narrative, but not when they leak info that hurts Obama according to the right. The left says the same tired thing.

I KNOW that anonymous sources (when used by conservative media outlets) are bad and usually playing at a political narrative, but not when they are used by liberal media outlets. The right days the same tired thing.

I KNOW that the email thing, Benghazi, FISA abuses, Clinton pay for play, Seth Rich, Obama’s birthcertificate controversy, Uranium 1, Gay maker in juice boxes, pizzagate, the great crusade against the climate change hoax are all perpetuated and claimed as gospel by the same media groups.

So.....forgive me if my faith in the conservative media web isn’t absolute

That's OK boom...no one in the Conservative media has to go back and apologize for what they fed to you that turned out to be wrong. The folks on the Left who you listen to and read and watch are constantly issuing "mea culpas" for getting sh*t wrong, and in many cases making it up!

Believe who you want, you're the only one who gets duped.

 

[atlkvb]

So.....forgive me if my faith in the conservative media web isn’t absolute

Boomer if you can be honest with yourself, ask yourself who is driving the revelations into this FBI FISA abuse story? Who's pushing the envelope, breaking the revelations, and uncovering the evidence that's pointing towards corruption and abuses of power?

CBS? CNN? NBC? ABC? They're the ones breaking the revelations?

OK.

 

[Boomboom521]

FWIW IBD does good polling usually.

They do. Some have problems with weighting, and bias overall....but yes they do. My point was I wanted to know if Atl had any idea who did the poll or their methodology. A poll of 900 people without any real understanding of methodology means jack. Even well respected polling orgs use “push polls” to create the numbers they want for political purposes, liberal orgs do it too.

The point was....atl didn’t know anything about the poll, other than the fact that it fit his narrative, and I’d expect more from a PI Reed J-school alumn (which I am as well).

 

[Boomboom521]

I know you can't stand him and think he's totally biased, but to his credit @WVU82 has actually posted some pretty revealing elements of this investigation on a daily basis that might give you pause to think it's Trump who is in trouble.

If you can set aside your hatred of Trump, and give 82's posts a good read, you might at least become better informed on the status of these ongoing investigations and more aware of who is actually hiding facts, or at least what the facts so far reveal.

82 retweets propaganda - I’m sure with legit information sprinkled in....but due to his constant highjacking of threads, I have him on ignore. It makes it tougher to read the thread, imo.

 

[Boomboom521]

As you said...IBD's polling for the past election results was one of the few accurate predictors of Trump's surprising win! Gallup et all predicting a Hillary landslide were grossly incorrect. Guess which polls the media promoted? Think they'll promote this one?(IBD)

Think again.

Oh now you know who did the poll? Maybe if you’d said that in the beginning, I would have just said ok.....??? Guess we’ll never know, cause you didn’t know anything about it when I asked.

 

[Boomboom521]

atlkvb, you should know by now, the far left would believe the moon is made of green cheese before accepting any and all positive Trump news, and they will come up with any and all rationale to see otherwise, accept and enjoy, its all good.

 

[Boomboom521]

Boomer if you can be honest with yourself, ask yourself who is driving the revelations into this FBI FISA abuse story? Who's pushing the envelope, breaking the revelations, and uncovering the evidence that's pointing towards corruption and abuses of power?

CBS? CNN? NBC? ABC? They're the ones breaking the revelations?

OK.

What evidence?

 

[79eer]

Some of you have too much free time on your hands. Carry on.

 

[Boomboom521]

Some of you have too much free time on your hands. Carry on.

Tell me about it.

 

[atlkvb]

They do. Some have problems with weighting, and bias overall....but yes they do. My point was I wanted to know if Atl had any idea who did the poll or their methodology. A poll of 900 people without any real understanding of methodology means jack. Even well respected polling orgs use “push polls” to create the numbers they want for political purposes, liberal orgs do it too.

The point was....atl didn’t know anything about the poll, other than the fact that it fit his narrative, and I’d expect more from a PI Reed J-school alumn (which I am as well).

I posted the poll...I knew about it before you did, I didn't bother to check the methodology but you called that out simply because you didn't appreciate what it says. I said in fact it didn't matter, it was just an interesting piece of information.

J school students when I studied there @ WVU weren't taught to dimiss whole cloth any information. I posted the information, I wasn't challenging it's conclusions...that was you.

 

[atlkvb]

82 retweets propaganda - I’m sure with legit information sprinkled in....but due to his constant highjacking of threads, I have him on ignore. It makes it tougher to read the thread, imo.

You can ignore him, but if you accept all aspects on information like you boast you'd do well to read what he posts. If it's all wrong, no harm. If it's correct, maybe you're better informed and not as apt to blame alternative media for the correct information they are indeed presenting in this massive scandal which the main media by and large is either ignoring or dismissing when revelations they're not pursuing are presented.

 

[atlkvb]

Oh now you know who did the poll? Maybe if you’d said that in the beginning, I would have just said ok.....??? Guess we’ll never know, cause you didn’t know anything about it when I asked.

I in fact did mention who did the polling. Go back and read my response in post #19 AND the author of the poll is clearly evident in the link I provided in the banner headline in my OP. You're the one who started in on it questioning its small sample size. That was your first reaction to it in post # 6, you asked "only 900 people" not who did it?

 

[Boomboom521]

I posted the poll...I knew about it before you did, I didn't bother to check the methodology but you called that out simply because you didn't appreciate what it says. I said in fact it didn't matter, it was just an interesting piece of information.

J school students when I studied there @ WVU weren't taught to dimiss whole cloth any information. I posted the information, I wasn't challenging it's conclusions...that was you.

I was just curious what you knew about the poll.
I never challenged its conclusions either, I just asked if you knew anything about the sample size, right?

 

[atlkvb]

The point was....atl didn’t know anything about the poll, other than the fact that it fit his narrative, and I’d expect more from a PI Reed J-school alumn (which I am as well).

 

[Boomboom521]

I in fact did mention who did the polling. Go back and read my response in post #19 AND the author of the poll is clearly evident in the link I provided in the banner headline in my OP. You're the one who started in on it questioning its small sample size. That was your first reaction to it in post # 6, you asked "only 900 people" not who did it?

You did mention the polling org, I thought you just mentioned the website that you pulled it from. Sorry for that. And I didn’t question the size of the sample, just if there was any information about the sample. And wanted to know what you knew about it. You didn’t know anything. I question every poll I see, because I know very well they can be used for political purposes. Yes....even the ones on CNN. I’d hope you’d do the same being a j-school grad.

I don’t discount any information. I regularly read FOX, the Hill, and WSJ....that’s just what you want to believe.

 

[Boomboom521]

I would and do expect more. Just throwing up polls without looking at the methodology? That’s hack.

 

[dave]

As you said...IBD's polling for the past election results was one of the few accurate predictors of Trump's surprising win! Gallup et all predicting a Hillary landslide were grossly incorrect. Guess which polls the media promoted? Think they'll promote this one?(IBD)

Think again.

None of the polls were really accurate but IDB didnt act like Hillaryhad a 12 poo int lead until 10 days out only to correct at crunch time.

 

[atlkvb]

I never challenged its conclusions either, I just asked if you knew anything about the sample size, right?[/QUOTE]

900 people? Any background on that sample?

the org that compiled the data doesn’t explain the methodology behind the data collection?

any poll I put my faith in, I find out the methodology. Otherwise the information is useless.

I never challenged its conclusions either, I just asked if you knew anything about the sample size, right?[/QUOTE]

 

[atlkvb]

I would and do expect more. Just throwing up polls without looking at the methodology? That’s hack.

Like I said your precious "methodology" goes right out the window when the media promotes a poll that says what you want. I posted a poll for you recently about the number of people who are against taxapyer funded abortions offered by Planned Parenthood. What was your reaction? "Misleading".

Then you claim I'm FOS?

 

[Boomboom521]

None of the polls were really accurate but IDB didnt act like Hillaryhad a 12 poo int lead until 10 days out only to correct at crunch time.

None of the polls were really accurate but IDB didnt act like Hillaryhad a 12 poo int lead until 10 days out only to correct at crunch time.

Five thirty eight had it closet, and recognized that many polls were probably inaccurate due to multiple factors.

Polls get on my nerves any which way. People are fickle. They give you a broad picture at best, when done properly.

 

[Boomboom521]

Like I said your precious "methodology" goes right out the window when the media promotes a poll that says what you want. I posted a poll for you recently about the number of people who are against taxapyer funded abortions offered by Planned Parenthood. What was your reaction? "Misleading".

Then you claim I'm FOS?

Have you ONCE ever seen me post a poll? ONCE?

 

[Boomboom521]

Like I said your precious "methodology" goes right out the window when the media promotes a poll that says what you want. I posted a poll for you recently about the number of people who are against taxapyer funded abortions offered by Planned Parenthood. What was your reaction? "Misleading".

Then you claim I'm FOS?

Do you know anything about that poll either? I don’t remember it, but I don’t put a lot of faith in any polling really.

I do think your FOS by the way

 

[atlkvb]

You did mention the polling org, I thought you just mentioned the website that you pulled it from. Sorry for that. And I didn’t question the size of the sample, just if there was any information about the sample. And wanted to know what you knew about it. You didn’t know anything. I question every poll I see, because I know very well they can be used for political purposes. Yes....even the ones on CNN. I’d hope you’d do the same being a j-school grad.

I don’t discount any information. I regularly read FOX, the Hill, and WSJ....that’s just what you want to believe.

I worked for 20 years in the news media doing polling, reading polls, reporting on polls, analyzing polls, and understanding how easily they can be manipulated.

You are just so out of your element assessing what you think I know or don't know it's comical. All I do know is you can't help yourself...it's how you cope with challenges to your own beliefs or intellect. Condescension.

 

[Boomboom521]

I worked for 20 years in the news media doing polling, reading polls, reporting on polls, analyzing polls, and understanding how easily they can be manipulated.

You are just so out of your element assessing what you think I know or don't know it's comical. All I do know is you can't help yourself...it's how you cope with challenges to your own beliefs or intellect. Condescension.

I asked: any background to that sample

You answered: no.

But it’s comical that I say you didn’t know anything about the methodology of the poll?

 

[atlkvb]

Do you know anything about that poll either? I don’t remember it, but I don’t put a lot of faith in any polling really.

I do think your FOS by the way

I understand why you insist I'm full of what you are made of. You're jealous.

I'd be more than willing to offer you generous portions of what you are so obviously envious of that you see in me boom. You're on the Left, you need a handout?

 

[atlkvb]

I asked: any background to that sample

You answered: no.

But it’s comical that I say you didn’t know anything about the methodology of the poll?

Correct, I directly answered your question about "methodology" because I said I didn't check it. I only offered my own anecdotal response which I also stated lined up well with that poll's findings.

 

[atlkvb]

Have you ONCE ever seen me post a poll? ONCE?

I do not rely on polls. They are snapshots of information, and can be useful in determining where general sentiment lies. They are still only tools to guage general public attitudes, not determiniative of outcomes because you simply cannot poll everyone! The one poll that actually counted on election day in 2016, you folks on the Left STILL have not accepted, because it went against virtually 98% of all of the rest of your fraudulent polling.

Thus hello Russians!

 

[Boomboom521]

I do not rely on polls. They are snapshots of information, and can be useful in determining where general sentiment lies. They are still only tools to guage general public attitudes, not determiniative of outcomes because you simply cannot poll everyone! The one poll that actually counted on election day in 2016, you folks on the Left STILL have not accepted, because it went against virtually 98% of all of the rest of your fraudulent polling.

Thus hello Russians!

Yet you started this thread with a poll?

Yes, you are FOS.

 

[atlkvb]

Have you ONCE ever seen me post a poll? ONCE?

Personally, no. But I didn't post that poll to prove anything about it, other than you won't see it on any major media broadcast because it doesn't fit their narrative not mine.

Do I believe it? I tend to believe it because as I said it reflects what I run into when I chat with folks who come into my Dealership (when that subject comes up)

It's remarkably accurate when I compare it to my small sample size. But again, my point in posting the information was simply to reveal what the major media is most likely to ignore, as they have most general interest in this story. Not to prove how sound the "methodology" was. That was your take to try and dismiss it.

 

[Boomboom521]

I understand why you insist I'm full of what you are made of. You're jealous.

I'd be more than willing to offer you generous portions of what you are so obviously envious of that you see in me boom. You're on the Left, you need a handout?

I am envious of your faith, I wish I had such passion for a religion without question. Although I’m just not able to have that type of relationship with something as serious as spirituality, I respect and envy the commitment.

Other than that, I don’t envy a single thing about you chubbs. But you keep playing that angle if you’d like.

 

[Boomboom521]

Personally, no. But I didn't post that poll to prove anything about it, other than you won't see it on any major media broadcast because it doesn't fit their narrative not mine.

Do I believe it? I tend to believe it because as I said it reflects what I run into when I chat with folks who come into my Dealership (when that subject comes up)

It's remarkably accurate when I compare it to my small sample size. But again, my point in posting the information was simply to reveal what the major media is most likely to ignore, as they have most general interest in this story. Not to prove how sound the "methodology" was. That was your take to try and dismiss it.

As I said, I usually dismiss most polls. And I wouldn’t start a thread with one, or an article about it. And I SURELY wouldn’t if I didn’t know it’s methodology.

 

[atlkvb]

Yet you started this thread with a poll?

Yes, you are FOS.

I actually posted in this thread to ignore the poll. I posted the only poll that matters is the one when we vote. How does that make me FOS? The only one who dismissed the poll is YOU. And you're claiming my being FOS suggests to me you are so steeped in it you can't tell the difference between where it ends and you begin.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I am envious of your faith, I wish I had such passion for a religion without question. Although I’m just not able to have that type of relationship with something as serious as spirituality, I respect and envy the commitment.

Other than that, I don’t envy a single thing about you chubbs. But you keep playing that angle if you’d like.

You don’t envy his blackness? Black is beautiful!! Say it!!

 

[Boomboom521]

I actually posted in this thread to ignore the poll. I posted the only poll that matters is the one when we vote. How does that make me FOS? The only one who dismissed the poll is YOU. And you're claiming my being FOS suggests to me you are so steeped in it you can't tell the difference between where it ends and you begin.

Oh, was the op about something other than the poll then?

 

[atlkvb]

I am envious of your faith, I wish I had such passion for a religion without question. Although I’m just not able to have that type of relationship with something as serious as spirituality, I respect and envy the commitment.

Other than that, I don’t envy a single thing about you chubbs. But you keep playing that angle if you’d like.

I offered to you (if you remember) to walk you through the same path a very wise and patient Pastor walked me through when I too struggled with my own belief just as you do. It is your own lack of desire to experience the liberation I did once I set aside my anger, disbelief, and arrogance to see the Creator as he is, not how others described him.

That offer btw stands.

 

[atlkvb]

You don’t envy his blackness? Black is beautiful!! Say it!!

I've always thought that!:cool2: