CNN won't promote this poll

[Boomboom521]

I offered to you (if you remember) to walk you through the same path a very wise and patient Pastor walked me through when I too struggled with my own belief just as you do. It is your own lack of desire to experience the liberation I did once I set aside my anger, disbelief, and arrogance to see the Creator as he is, not how others described him.

That offer btw stands.

Chubbs! Again, I admire the commitment, but it’s not my path. You mocked my path, and that’s fine. But honestly, I envy your commitment to yours. I think you could be more open to others paths, but we’ve been down that path too many times.

 

[Boomboom521]

You don’t envy his blackness? Black is beautiful!! Say it!!

**** no. I admire the hardships I’m sure he’s faced, but no....I’ve enjoyed my white privilege.

 

[atlkvb]

As I said, I usually dismiss most polls. And I wouldn’t start a thread with one, or an article about it. And I SURELY wouldn’t if I didn’t know it’s methodology.

OK then boom good for you! I stated why I posted the poll. Post me if you ever see it on any major broadcast media, then my point behind posting it is moot.

 

[atlkvb]

Chubbs! Again, I admire the commitment, but it’s not my path. You mocked my path, and that’s fine. But honestly, I envy your commitment to yours. I think you could be more open to others paths, but we’ve been down that path too many times.

I do NOT mock anything you believe (I've challenged you to show me where) That is simply your feeling when we debate, or I queston what I don't understand about what you believe. (I don't, and I admit that)

I've told you to test everything, (I do) consider nothing sacrosanct (I don't) I've said Faith is meaningless if it can't stand up to scrutiny. Beliefs are not subject to what we make them up to be. Truth stands independent of what you or I say it is. On your path to discovery, all is relevant until that which is not true is proven irrelevant. That will change, but as I've said it cannot be True unless it can't be challenged by something else. You're not there, that's OK. If I don't understand it, how does that make me any less of a person?

 

[Boomboom521]

OK then boom good for you! I stated why I posted the poll. Post me if you ever see it on any major broadcast media, then my point behind posting it is moot.

I can say that one major “liberal prop rag” like the NYT has an article a while back about how idp/tipp had issues with their weighting. It could be an issue with methodology

 

[atlkvb]

**** no. I admire the hardships I’m sure he’s faced, but no....I’ve enjoyed my white privilege.

MWV doesn't think I suffered any harships because I'm not Black![smoke]

 

[atlkvb]

I can say that one major “liberal prop rag” like the NYT has an article a while back about how idp/tipp had issues with their weighting. It could be an issue with methodology

No poll is perfect, except the one after we vote. Even then folks cheat!

 

[Boomboom521]

No poll is perfect, except the one after we vote. Even then folks cheat!

Influencing and cheating in an election are two different things.

 

[atlkvb]

Oh, was the op about something other than the poll then?

In the header to my OP I stated my reason for posting that poll. When you see it reported on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, et all the point I'm making with the poll is moot. I don't think you'll ever see it reported, but I could be wrong. So far, I'm not. It's been out about a week now and I doubt any of them even know it.

 

[atlkvb]

Influencing and cheating in an election are two different things.

If you want to ban "influence" get rid of advertising, fund raising, and all polling. Just let folks go vote. That's not realistic, and neither is expecting "no influence".

Information is the cure to ignorance. Our media does a poor job informing us of the issues, which is why we have such lousy candidates and get such lousy results. Look at this recent budget scam. I'm Conservative and I'm saying it's a sell out! Leftists aren't happy with it either becuase it doesn't spend enough for them!

Is that what we voted for?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

**** no. I admire the hardships I’m sure he’s faced, but no....I’ve enjoyed my white privilege.

It really is nice, isn’t it. I like walking into a bank just knowing ima get that loan. Same thing on a job interview, I don’t even prepare. Just show up knowing I’ll be hired.

 

[Boomboom521]

In the header to my OP I stated my reason for posting that poll. When you see it reported on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, et all the point I'm making with the poll is moot. I don't think you'll ever see it reported, but I could be wrong. So far, I'm not. It's been out about a week now and I doubt any of them even know it.

So you want EVERY poll covered now?

 

[Boomboom521]

If you want to ban "influence" get rid of advertising, fund raising, and all polling. Just let folks go vote. That's not realistic, and neither is expecting "no influence".

Information is the cure to ignorance. Our media does a poor job informing us of the issues, which is why we have such lousy candidates and get such lousy results. Look at this recent budget scam. I'm Conservative and I'm saying it's a sell out! Leftists aren't happy with it either becuase it doesn't spend enough for them!

Is that what we voted for?

I’m all for campaign reform in a serious way, I’d love for independent and third party candidates to have a fighting chance.

But I don’t like foreign governments having such substantial influence in the age of social media. And I don’t think our candidates should coordinate efforts with them either.

 

[dave]

I can say that one major “liberal prop rag” like the NYT has an article a while back about how idp/tipp had issues with their weighting. It could be an issue with methodology

The issue with their weighting is it isnt weighted as heavily D as their faves.

 

[TarHeelEer]

I KNOW that anonymous sources (when used by conservative media outlets) are bad and usually playing at a political narrative, but not when they are used by liberal media outlets.

That's because when CNN, NYT, and their ilk say "anonymous sources say", give it 24 hours, it will be proven wrong.

 

[Boomboom521]

It really is nice, isn’t it. I like walking into a bank just knowing ima get that loan. Same thing on a job interview, I don’t even prepare. Just show up knowing I’ll be hired.

I thought you were joking — so I joked back, because you’re always up on my nuts about taking a joke.

My family is from Kelly’s Creek, West Virginia.

 

[Boomboom521]

The issue with their weighting is it isnt weighted as heavily D as their faves.

I browsed the article, didn’t commit it to memory. I’ve seen that idp/tipp was given a pretty good rating by five thirty eight, and that’s legit, imo.

 

[atlkvb]

I am envious of your faith, I wish I had such passion for a religion without question. Although I’m just not able to have that type of relationship with something as serious as spirituality, I respect and envy the commitment.

Other than that, I don’t envy a single thing about you chubbs. But you keep playing that angle if you’d like.

Dude you're the one who keeps telling me I'm FOS. That's cool, but you can't know what I'm full of unless you know first hand the actual experience.

If I were you I wouldn't be jealous of my Faith because it doesn't belong to me...it's for everyone. What's available to me is also freely available to you but it is what you simply refuse to accept, not anything I'm keeping from you or have exclusive to myself.

 

[atlkvb]

I browsed the article, didn’t commit it to memory. I’ve seen that idp/tipp was given a pretty good rating by five thirty eight, and that’s legit, imo.

They typically are very accurate, but again I wasn't challenging their methodology.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I thought you were joking — so I joked back, because you’re always up on my nuts about taking a joke.

My family is from Kelly’s Creek, West Virginia.

Kelly’s Creek? That’s nothing but loads of White Privilege.

Edit: I have no idea what the racial makeup of Kelly’s Creek is. Assuming it’s predominantly white.

 

[Boomboom521]

Kelly’s Creek? That’s nothing but loads of White Privilege.

Edit: I have no idea what the racial makeup of Kelly’s Creek is. Assuming it’s predominantly white.

When my family was there, lots of white faces and black lung

 

[atlkvb]

So you want EVERY poll covered now?

No, but it would be nice if the media didn't place such emphasis on them trying to create the reality they claim the polls reflect. I'd prefer a decent sample poll at the start of a campaign...roughly in the middle, and one about two weeks away from election day.

All the rest can be scrapped or left to the individual campaigns to mull over. Part of the reason we are mired in this ridiculous "collusion" story imo is because so many folks actually believed the polls they were bombarded with on almost a daily basis in '16. I got sick of 'em! I was determined to go vote against them just because I got so sick of constantly being bombarded with "a new poll shows Hillary Clinton up by 40 pts!" Sh*t they didn't poll me!!!!!!

So Hillary loses and the polls had to be correct right? So it (election) must have been fixed. Russians!!!!!!!

Skip the damn polls....tell us what the issues are and why candidate X is better or worse on them than candidate Y?

 

[Boomboom521]

No, but it would be nice if the media didn't place such emphasis on them trying to create the reality they claim the polls reflect. I'd prefer a decent sample poll at the start of a campaign...roughly in the middle, and one about two weeks away from election day.

All the rest can be scrapped or left to the individual campaigns to mull over. Part of the reason we are mired in this ridiculous "collusion" story imo is because so many folks actually believed the polls they were bombarded with on almost a daily basis in '16. I got sick of 'em! I was determined to go vote against them just because I got so sick of constantly being bombarded with "a new poll shows Hillary Clinton up by 40 pts!" Sh*t they didn't poll me!!!!!!

Skip the damn polls....tell us what the issues are and why candidate X is better or worse on them than candidate Y?

I think the polls helped Trump actually.

 

[atlkvb]

Kelly’s Creek? That’s nothing but loads of White Privilege.

Edit: I have no idea what the racial makeup of Kelly’s Creek is. Assuming it’s predominantly white.

When I got to West Virginia in 1975 from upstate New York I thought they were some of the friendliest, most down to earth people I'd ever met. Still think that, except for Leftist members of our OT forum. I don't know where these folks came from?[winking]

 

[atlkvb]

I think the polls helped Trump actually.

Well I know they encouraged me to get out there and vote for him just to prove them wrong. I got sick of all the Hillary idolizing, especially when all the revelations about her illegal server were out there too!

 

[atlkvb]

It really is nice, isn’t it. I like walking into a bank just knowing ima get that loan. Same thing on a job interview, I don’t even prepare. Just show up knowing I’ll be hired.

I've never felt at a disadvantage because of my color, I think it only matters if the person doing the hiring can't see past it. My customers are all the same color to me (green). The only time I see color is when I can't get their loans through. I get more White folks rejected than anyone else.

 

[wvu2007]

Trump actually. He can literally declassify ANYTHING he feels the American people need to know

 

[Shirley Knott]

you are getting awful uppity for a....what was it that KKKountry called you again?

What color was KKKzebra when he namecalled that day ???