CNN won't promote this poll

[atlkvb]

Most Think Obama White House Spied On Trump Campaign, Want Special Counsel: IBD/TIPP Poll

excerpt:

Spying On Trump: Americans overwhelmingly believe the Obama administration "improperly surveilled" Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and a majority say they would like to see a special prosecutor appointed to look into possible misconduct by the FBI and Department of Justice in spying on Trump, the latest IBD/TIPP poll shows. One fact emerges from the poll of 900 people conducted from Jan. 25 to Feb. 2: The public doesn't necessarily buy into the Democratic narrative that the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia to tamper with the 2016 presidential election"

Poll link:
https://www.investors.com/politics/...p-campaign-want-special-counsel-ibdtipp-poll/

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[Keyser76]

Is that Americans or Republicans? lol.

 

[Keyser76]

And it ain't on CNN cause that poll is from April.

 

[bamaEER]

And it ain't on CNN cause that poll is from April.

That's funny.

If I were the president, I'd be spying the **** out of Biff too.

 

[Boomboom521]

900 people? Any background on that sample?

 

[bamaEER]

900 people? Any background on that sample?

 

[atlkvb]

And it ain't on CNN cause that poll is from April.

from article:

One fact emerges from the poll of 900 people conducted from Jan. 25 to Feb. 2: The public doesn't necessarily buy into the Democratic narrative that the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia to tamper with the 2016 presidential election.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

from article:

One fact emerges from the poll of 900 people conducted from Jan. 25 to Feb. 2: The public doesn't necessarily buy into the Democratic narrative that the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia to tamper with the 2016 presidential election.

how many times have I TOLD you not to confuse these kool aid drinkers with the truth....now they will take it out on their wives and dogs if they have any and YOU will be responsible....doesn't that make you feel bad?

 

[atlkvb]

900 people? Any background on that sample?

Actually I have no idea what their methodology was. But it's interesting this same question is NEVER asked of the daily barrage of polls we're bombarded with by the major media when it says what they want us to believe.

The one poll that matters about all of this will be measured at the voting booths...then we'll know how most Americans felt about it until we're told their votes were "manipulated" by Russians.

 

[atlkvb]

how many times have I TOLD you not to confuse these kool aid drinkers with the truth....now they will take it out on their wives and dogs if they have any and YOU will be responsible....doesn't that make you feel bad?

I love being the bearer of bad news for Leftists.[winking]

 

[Boomboom521]

Actually I have no idea what their methodology was. But it's interesting this same question is NEVER asked of the daily barrage of polls we're bombarded with by the major media when it says what they want us to believe.

The one poll that matters about all of this will be measured at the voting booths...then we'll know how most Americans felt about it until we're told their votes were "manipulated" by Russians.

Really? News outlets do not reveal their methodology in polls? They don’t source the organization that compiled the data? And the org that compiled the data doesn’t explain the methodology behind the data collection?

Give me a poll you think doesn’t

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[atlkvb]

I see a cute Black girl in that crowd, an Asian Girl, a Black Dude too...in fact I see more Women in that crowd than Men, and more young folks than old White Males! I thought Trump hated Women, hated people of color, and was only supported by old White Males who are Christian biggots?

Nice photo.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

I see a cute Black girl in that crowd, an Asian Girl, a Black Dude too...in fact I see more Women in that crowd than Men, and more young folks than old White Males! I thought Trump hated Women, hated people of color, and was only supported by old White Males who are Christian biggots?

Nice photo.

you are getting awful uppity for a....what was it that KKKountry called you again?

 

[atlkvb]

Really? News outlets do not reveal their methodology in polls? They don’t source the organization that compiled the data? And the org that compiled the data doesn’t explain the methodology behind the data collection?

Give me a poll you think doesn’t

I didn't say that. I said the question you asked about this particular poll is never asked when the media blares one of their polls saying "a majority of Americans polled think Leftist Socialism is the next best thing since Creation" or some other such Left wing bilge they usually promote with their slanted polls.

As I said, it doesn't really matter. Only one poll matters. The one on election day. Good idea to simply ignore all the rest until then, including this one! I just posted it for general information...didn't say it was true or false, it's just there (relatively)

 

[atlkvb]

you are getting awful uppity for a....what was it that KKKountry called you again?

I got permission from my "master" to think.[winking]

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

I got permission from my "master" to think.[winking]

you just make sure that you get your mind right:boxing:

 

[atlkvb]

And the org that compiled the data doesn’t explain the methodology behind the data collection?

Investor's Business Daily did the poll. I haven't checked, but I'm sure their sample sizing and methodology is available if you wanted to look it up. I believe it even if my small sample is only anecdotal. Most of the folks I run into (being in sales you'd be amazed how many that is) pretty much reflect the results of this poll. Again, that's just my small (relatively) sample size, but I'm not running into many people who think Trump stole Hillary's votes with the help of the Russians or that the Democrats were NOT spying on him.

 

[Boomboom521]

I didn't say that. I said the question you asked about this particular poll is never asked when the media blares one of their polls saying "a majority of Americans polled think Leftist Socialism is the next best thing since Creation" or some other such Left wing bilge they usually promote with their slanted polls.

As I said, it doesn't really matter. Only one poll matters. The one on election day. Good idea to simply ignore all the rest until then, including this one! I just posted it for general information...didn't say it was true or false, it's just there (realtively)

Oh, just as long as you know you’re FOS. And any poll I put my faith in, I find out the methodology. Otherwise the information is useless. Maybe you had stats in college? I thought you went to PI Reed SOJ? And you are passing along polls without knowing it’s methodology? Shame, not making WVU look too good.

 

[atlkvb]

you just make sure that you get your mind right:boxing:

Snow Sled, my Master would get very pissed if I did not use the mind he gave me...and even more disappointed if I used it to think like most Leftists.

 

[Boomboom521]

Investor's Business Daily did the poll. I haven't checked, but I'm sure their sample sizing and methodology is available if you wanted to look it up. I believe it even if my small sample is only anecdotal. Most of the folks I run into (being in sales you'd be amazed how many that is) pretty much reflect the results of this poll. Again, that's just my small (realatively) sample size, but I'm not running into many people who think Trump stole Hillary's votes with the help of the Russians or that the Democrats were NOT spying on him.

Oh, I’m sold then.

 

[atlkvb]

Oh, just as long as you know you’re FOS. And any poll I put my faith in, I find out the methodology. Otherwise the information is useless. Maybe you has stats in college? I thought you went to PI Reed SOJ? And you are passing along polls without knowing it’s methodology? Shame, not making WVU look too good.

So you know I'm FOS right? I would imagine the expertise you've gathered using your personal instruments are well calibrated measuring your own supply.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

Snow Sled, my Master would get very pissed if I did not use the mind he gave me...and even more disappointed if I used it to think like most Leftists.

Our Master is much more powerful than any leftist,,,,,and I'm not talking about DJT, although he is too

 

[atlkvb]

Oh, I’m sold then.

I also said you won't see the poll on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, or any other so called "news" outlet. Post me when you see it reported.

 

[Boomboom521]

I also said you won't see the poll on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, or any other so called "news" outlet. Post me when you see it reported.

They care about the methodology and weighting of the polls they post.

 

[atlkvb]

They care about the methodology and weighting of the polls they post.

Well that may or may not be true. Their polling failed them last November and we've heard nothing except "Russians" since. Doesn't matter, the final poll was the one that counted. I think this line from the poll I posted is what matters to most fair minded Americans not isolated by political ideology

from poll:
"Plainly, Americans are concerned by what they've read and heard of the surveillance of the Trump campaign and would like a full investigation".

I think most folks want to see a fair and thorough investigation into the possible abuses of our FISA law as well as our Constitutonal rights by Government officials. More than 70% of those polled in this sample did, I agree with them.

 

[Boomboom521]

Well that may or may not be true. Their polling failed them last November and we've heard nothing except "Russians" since. doesn't matter, the final poll was the one that counted. I think this line from the poll I posted is what matters to most fair minded Americans not isolated by political ideology

from poll:
"Plainly, Americans are concerned by what they've read and heard of the surveillance of the Trump campaign and would like a full investigation".

I think most folks want to see a fair and thorough investigation into the possible abuses of our FISA law as well as our Constitutonal rights by Government officials. More than 70% of those polled in this sample did, I agree with them.

How about releasing the FISA documents and letting the American people make their own decision as to whether there were abuses? Trump could do that. Why doesn’t he? Did that Democrat rebuttal get released by Trump yet? Nope. Let’s let Gowdy and Nunes control the narrative, and shhhhhhh we’ll just pretend those guys aren’t politicians.....they’re patriot truth seekers, campaign war chests and public opinion in their district be damned, right?

 

[atlkvb]

How about releasing the FISA documents and letting the American people make their own decision as to whether there were abuses? Trump could do that. Why doesn’t he? Did that Democrat rebuttal get released by Trump yet? Nope. Let’s let Gowdy and Nunes control the narrative, and shhhhhhh we’ll just pretend those guys aren’t politicians.....they’re patriot truth seekers, campaign war chests and public opinion in their district be damned, right?

I agree 100%. Release it all. Full disclosure. All documents. FISA warrants. All supporting documentation of it. Who unmaksed the names? Who ordered the warrants? Why? Who listened in on the survelillance? Let's hear it all.

Agree with you 100%

Who's against what I just posted? Who votes to keep records hidden, or refuses to turn over documents? Who's trying to keep things hidden, and who is trying to cover it all up?

Who?

 

[Boomboom521]

I agree 100%. Release it all. Full disclosure. All documents. FISA warrants. All supporting documentation of it. Who unmaksed the names? Who ordered the warrants? Why? Who listened in on the survelillance? Let's hear it all.

Agree with you 100%

Who's against what I just posted? Who votes to keep records hidden, or refuses to turn over documents? Who's trying to keep things hidden, and who is trying to cover it all up?

Who?

Trump actually. He can literally declassify ANYTHING he feels the American people need to know

 

[atlkvb]

This part of the poll is reflected on this board. Those of you on the Left think like the Democrats did in this poll, and those of us on the Right think like the Republicans who were polled in this sample. Seems to me that based on our exchanges here on the OT forum this poll reflects many of the same sentiments.

From poll:

"We further asked Americans whether they thought "some senior career civil servants at the FBI and Department of Justice knowingly coordinated to frame the president with allegations of Russian collusion in order to cast a cloud over his presidency."

"There, the readings were not as definitively strong as with the other two questions. Of those queried, 35% said yes, Justice and FBI officials coordinated their actions to frame the president for colluding with the Russians, while 60% said no. This had by far the biggest partisan split of all, with 77% of Republicans saying yes, but just 11% of Democrats and 30% of independents agreeing."

 

[atlkvb]

Trump actually. He can literally declassify ANYTHING he feels the American people need to know

I do agree with you again here!

I actually think he will...but in my opinion he's waiting to nail a few more liars. I don't for one minute think he doesn't have all he needs to know right now. He knows it all (just like Obama did). I just think (again my opinion) he's smoking out the rats, traitors, leakers, liars, and leeches. Time is on his side, as well as Truth.

Don't forget why he was elected boom...to "drain the swamp". Some of the roaches are voluntarily resigning, others know the noose is tightening...others will hold out till the last minute or try to rub him out before he gets rid of them! But I agree with you, he can release everything right now because he already knows who did what and why? He's just got other objectives behind waiting to show his hand. (in my opinion)

1) Destroy the Media's credibility
2) Get rid of the disloyal swamp dwellers....most of them career political appointees.

In that order...in my opinion. But you are correct Sir, he has all of the information to clear this whole thing up tomorrow if that's what he needed to do.

 

[Boomboom521]

I do agree with you again here!

I actually think he will...but in my opinion he's waiting to nail a few more liars. I don't for one minute think he doesn't have all he needs to know right now. He knows it all (just like Obama did). I just think (again my opinion) he's smoking out the rats, traitors, leakers, liars, and leeches. Time is on his side, as well as Truth.

Don't forget why he was elected boom...to "drain the swamp". Some of the roaches are voluntarily resigning, others know the noose is tightening...others will hold out till the last minute or try to rub him out before he gets rid of them! But I agree with you, he can release everything right now because he already knows who did what and why? He's just got other objectives behind waiting to show his hand. (in my opinion)

1) Destroy the Media's credibility
2) Get rid of the disloyal swamp dwellers....most of them career political appointees.

In that order...in my opinion. Buy you are correct Sir, he has all of the information to clear this whole thing up tomorrow if that's what he needed to do.

Always with the excuses. You guys are starting to sound like the exact thing you failed against for so long.

At least THE posted a petition to persuade the President to do just that, instead of simply putting blind faith into the man that members of his own party want investigated for treasonous actions.

 

[atlkvb]

Always with the excuses. You guys are starting to sound like the exact thing you failed against for so long.

At least THE posted a petition to persuade the President to do just that, instead of simply putting blind faith into the man that members of his own party want investigated for treasonous actions.

Time. It reveals all Truth boom. Patience is needed to let time reveal what Truth has to offer.

In Time, we'll see the Truth because it is the only thing that can withstand its test. The test of time will reveal the Truth about this whole affair.

Ironically, as more time passes while we wait for the full Truth, elements of it do become exposed and we get a much clearer picture. What we know today in time, is much greater than what we knew 6 months ago, and the Truth is not kind to the guilty or liars nor is it pointing to Trump as the one who was up to no good. Trump isn't hiding anything, even if he's holding off on what he knows so far. He's giving it more time, we should too.

Patience boom...patience.

 

[dave]

900 people? Any background on that sample?

FWIW IBD does good polling usually.

 

[atlkvb]

FWIW IBD does good polling usually.

Not according to @Boomboom521 . No methodology, irrelevant poll.

 

[dave]

Not according to @Boomboom521 . No methodology, irrelevant poll.

That is laughable considering the methodology used by Gallup and others.

 

[atlkvb]

That is laughable considering the methodology used by Gallup and others.

As you said...IBD's polling for the past election results was one of the few accurate predictors of Trump's surprising win! Gallup et all predicting a Hillary landslide were grossly incorrect. Guess which polls the media promoted? Think they'll promote this one?(IBD)

Think again.

 

[79eer]

atlkvb, you should know by now, the far left would believe the moon is made of green cheese before accepting any and all positive Trump news, and they will come up with any and all rationale to see otherwise, accept and enjoy, its all good.

 

[atlkvb]

Always with the excuses. You guys are starting to sound like the exact thing you failed against for so long.

At least THE posted a petition to persuade the President to do just that, instead of simply putting blind faith into the man that members of his own party want investigated for treasonous actions.

I know you can't stand him and think he's totally biased, but to his credit @WVU82 has actually posted some pretty revealing elements of this investigation on a daily basis that might give you pause to think it's Trump who is in trouble.

If you can set aside your hatred of Trump, and give 82's posts a good read, you might at least become better informed on the status of these ongoing investigations and more aware of who is actually hiding facts, or at least what the facts so far reveal.