Memo is out
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I want to know what other information was used for the FISA. I want to know what was said about Steele in the FISA. I want to know what the FBI knows about the dossier. I want to know what the FBI knows about Steele.
I also understand the frustration and hit to credibility that the texts about disliking Trump from Steele and Ohr and Page reveal, but if they believed the information in the dossier — wouldn’t they naturally feel that way about Trump?
I want to know what judge approved the FISA, and if there is any information about that judge that discredits their impartiality.
I also understand the frustration and hit to credibility that the texts about disliking Trump from Steele and Ohr and Page reveal, but if they believed the information in the dossier — wouldn’t they naturally feel that way about Trump?
I want to know what judge approved the FISA, and if there is any information about that judge that discredits their impartiality.
It's obvious that some people in the FBI & DOJ was compromised , it's sucks , it happens ..power & greed can corrupt the best of people , an oversite committee has uncovered it, now let's as a country fix it ...im sure it has happened in the past , positive it will happen in the future let's just make it harder for people to do it ...it happens on both sides a 3rd party would slow it down
It would take a SECOND vote, because Republicans on committee already voted once to NOT release it.....wonder why?
Both worked when I posted them...won't work now.
Try this one:
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/2/16957588/nunes-memo-full-text-read-trump-release
Asked and answered already. They are following the same procedure they followed with the Republican memo. Schiff presented it to the committee on 2/29. It was approved unanimously for House release for 7 days. Then another vote for public release, and then go through the White House approval. There is policy for this type of thing. They didn't just release the initial memo as soon as it was presented to the committee.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/dubious-legal-claim-behind-releasethememo
BTW - I have a question. I thought many on here have claimed that the FBI/DOJ tried and failed to get a FISA warrant on Page and then they went back with the dossier and got the approval. I don't see that in the memo. They refer to the October application as the "initial" application. Maybe I'm missing it, or maybe the full release will shine details on that.
Seems like this whole memo is just a list of things we already knew, what is new? And what were people wanting redacted from that?
A couple new things to me.
- It really seems like someone saw the FISA applications. I didn't think they had. Or they interviewed judicial sources?
- They sourced some of the material: McCabe's testimony, the actual Yahoo article, etc. More is necessary
- They didn't reference the failed attempt at all. Interesting that they did not, I want to research the original source of that information tonight.
It's a list of things that several on here did know and tried to tell you but you just laughed out loud. Now you are claiming you knew all along? LOL!
Read your link. That doesn't take Woods procedure into consideration for the FISA process. The DOJ totally dropped the ball on that. Comey, Yates, Rosenstein still signed off on the applications.
Here is a good rundown boom.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intelligence-memo-released-what-it-says/article/2647937
The worst part of all of this? I had already decided a nothingburger post would be my first take on this and I totes blew it.
I did read my link. I don't understand much of anything in it. lol. I do get the gist that's it's not as simple as some have made it out to be.
It's pretty simple if you take the time. You would probably have a better grasp of what was going on when THE was trying to educate you but you chose to laugh. Now we are all laughing at you...again.
I don't think this will change anything. This memo just seems to validate stuff that was already out in the public domain.
Dems never have admitted they didn't have anything else to request that FISA warrant. Dossier and the political origins of it implicates everyone in the Obama DOJ.
They knew it was bogus, yet they never told the FISA court. They simply used the FBI for legitimacy to spy on their political opposition. Collusion was all on Dem side with Fusion GPS, Steele, Comey etc. Mueller is investigating the wrong Dude!
So you've read the post and made up your opinion?
Do you really play the MSM is more accurate than anyone else card still? STILL?
Pfffffft
I read the memo, and I have substantial questions that are relevant to the memo’s overall assertions. I’m waiting for the hashtag social media campaign from the truth seeking right to get Trump to release the actual FISA evidence used at court, and not a memo written by GOP staffers cherry picking what feeds the right wing prop machine.
If these abuses are true, then it shouldn’t be left to this at all. This memo is not justice
Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.
I didn't see this in the memo. Where was that?
If you can discredit reports based on liberal bias, I can based on conservative bias as well. Why is it ok for conservatives to do things, but you rail against the left for the same? Unnamed sources, obvious media biases, half truth political memos?
This is just step 2. Step 1 was the little tidbits for the last year. Step 3 is the Democratic opposition release. Hopefully they do leak it sooner than later, but process is process!
Then we can get to steps 4/5 - IG Report and release of evidence. I'm not sure which will come first or second.
Neither was the FISA warrant. In fact it was illegal, since the entire basis of it was fradulent. You aren't as concerned about that as you are about the politics of Nunes' motivations for revealing the bias and impropriety in the DOJ. All you care about is Dems not looking like the scoundrels they are, your calls for Justice are relatively innocuous.
It hasnt been blocked. It is going through the process that this memo went through.
Read the link to Byron York's piece I provided. Full copies of the memo are also provided. Read that too...you'll see it or lie about it.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intelligence-memo-released-what-it-says/article/2647937
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How do you know what was used in the FISA? Entire basis was fraudulent? Why would you say that? .....oh yeah that’s right, because of this memo. Even though the Trump appointed FBI Director says that this memo has material omissions that call into question the legitimacy of the documents claims.