Senator Joe......"build the wall"

MountaineerWV

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Just a few months ago you all were hating him, now you love him.........wonder why? And I don't personally care about the wall, just think that it will be a waste of money in the long run.
 

roadtrasheer

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I'm still not voting for the low life ...he is just playing politics right now his actions speak louder than his words
 

eerdoc

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Just a few months ago you all were hating him, now you love him.........wonder why? And I don't personally care about the wall, just think that it will be a waste of money in the long run.
How? If wall cannot be breached, traffic will cease.Reduced illegal drug flow. Reduction of ALL types of person flow--including those none of us want here, especially those already deported for crimes committed in USA. Greatly improved
National security. Waste of money. Does not even closely challenge for the waste we constantly experience in many other activities run by the Government. Build the wall but do not grant citizenship to DACA folks. I thought the argument was protection from deportation? Then we hear citizenship. Two are not the same. Give them permanent residency but no path to citizenship (or at least make them apply like any other foreigner.) Then automatic, immediate deportation if convicted of a felony. Tighten chain migration. NO LOTTERY for entry.
 

MountaineerWV

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How? If wall cannot be breached, traffic will cease.Reduced illegal drug flow. Reduction of ALL types of person flow--including those none of us want here, especially those already deported for crimes committed in USA. Greatly improved
National security. Waste of money. Does not even closely challenge for the waste we constantly experience in many other activities run by the Government. Build the wall but do not grant citizenship to DACA folks. I thought the argument was protection from deportation? Then we hear citizenship. Two are not the same. Give them permanent residency but no path to citizenship (or at least make them apply like any other foreigner.) Then automatic, immediate deportation if convicted of a felony. Tighten chain migration. NO LOTTERY for entry.

Naive in thinking the wall will put a dent in the drug trafficking trade.........Kind of the same argument you guys make about "gun control won't stop gun violence".........right?
 

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How? If wall cannot be breached, traffic will cease.Reduced illegal drug flow. Reduction of ALL types of person flow--including those none of us want here, especially those already deported for crimes committed in USA. Greatly improved
National security. Waste of money. Does not even closely challenge for the waste we constantly experience in many other activities run by the Government. Build the wall but do not grant citizenship to DACA folks. I thought the argument was protection from deportation? Then we hear citizenship. Two are not the same. Give them permanent residency but no path to citizenship (or at least make them apply like any other foreigner.) Then automatic, immediate deportation if convicted of a felony. Tighten chain migration. NO LOTTERY for entry.
Money always finds a way through anything
 

roadtrasheer

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I'm all for the wall..the daca kids , should have protection to get in line if they are productive people then move them along , stop the lottery & chain migration , enforce the immigration laws & severely punish companies who hire ILLEGAL immigrants & back to daca kids if they are criminals send that *** back , felony or multiple
 
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How? If wall cannot be breached, traffic will cease.Reduced illegal drug flow. Reduction of ALL types of person flow--including those none of us want here, especially those already deported for crimes committed in USA. Greatly improved National security.

LOL! Wow. That's eye opening.

Build the wall but do not grant citizenship to DACA folks. I thought the argument was protection from deportation? Then we hear citizenship. Two are not the same. Give them permanent residency but no path to citizenship (or at least make them apply like any other foreigner.) Then automatic, immediate deportation if convicted of a felony. Tighten chain migration. NO LOTTERY for entry.

84% of the US wants to prevent deporting the dreamers. Congratulations, you are in the 16%.

They do have to apply like anyone else, moron.
 

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How? If wall cannot be breached, traffic will cease.
Ever hear of "ladders"? How about "shovels" for "digging tunnels"? They're already doing it where the wall has been built.

Greatly improved National security.
How many terrorists have sneaked over the southern border? You know the easiest way to become an illegal alien? It's by starting as a legal visitor. Every one of the 9/11 hijackers came here on a valid visa, and as many illegals stay on expired visas every year as there are border sneakers.

Tighten chain migration. NO LOTTERY for entry.
What is "chain migration"? How does it work? How does the Visa Lottery work?
 
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roadtrasheer

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Popeer..yes ladders & shovels can make it possible to still get in ...but the wall will slow it down greatly & limit the locations they get in , & the government who main job is to protect legal citizens should enforce the the visa limitations & get them out ..its simple logic really...locks & cops don't stop all thieves but they do slow them down .
 

roadtrasheer

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Not really guns don't kill people ..& the wall & cops is used to slow down the PEOPLE who kill ..the ILLEGAL PEOPLE. I don't understand the thinking that guns kill ,guns are a way people kill, taking guns is treating the symptom & not the problem
 

mule_eer

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Popeer..yes ladders & shovels can make it possible to still get in ...but the wall will slow it down greatly & limit the locations they get in , & the government who main job is to protect legal citizens should enforce the the visa limitations & get them out ..its simple logic really...locks & cops don't stop all thieves but they do slow them down .
I wonder if we've called France yet to ask if they would sell us the Maginot Line on the cheap. I mean it's used, so we might be able to get it cheaper than building new.
 

roadtrasheer

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Well if was getting invaded by an opposing army then I would say get the military involved , but since we are talking about illegal immigrants than a wall should work or slow it down greatly & help with the drug trafficking
 
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but since we are talking about illegal immigrants than a wall should work or slow it down greatly & help with the drug trafficking

 

mule_eer

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Well if was getting invaded by an opposing army then I would say get the military involved , but since we are talking about illegal immigrants than a wall should work or slow it down greatly & help with the drug trafficking
You are dealing with multi billion dollar industries though. Drugs are coming in via boats, planes, tunnels, hidden in legitimate cargo. I think you are fooling yourself if you think a wall makes a huge dent in drug trafficking. As far as illegal immigration goes, there are still plenty of options for people to come in with a wall. If there weren't, we wouldn't have Asian illegal immigrants too.

I'm not entirely opposed to the wall. I don't think a physical barrier makes sense for the whole border though. Some stretches of the border do lend themselves to a physical barrier, and I'm fine with building there. A physical barrier can be overcome if you don't monitor it closely though. That was partially my point about the Maginot Line.
 

roadtrasheer

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That looks to be a very poor example of border security...building that thing is like trying to using a pair of panties for a rubber ...would be worth a f$@k.
Hopefully we can build a security system that works to a high degree & be cost effective. Just think how many legal people we could help with just the money saved on the imprisonment of illegal aliens that have committed crimes ...
 

roadtrasheer

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You are dealing with multi billion dollar industries though. Drugs are coming in via boats, planes, tunnels, hidden in legitimate cargo. I think you are fooling yourself if you think a wall makes a huge dent in drug trafficking. As far as illegal immigration goes, there are still plenty of options for people to come in with a wall. If there weren't, we wouldn't have Asian illegal immigrants too.

I'm not entirely opposed to the wall. I don't think a physical barrier makes sense for the whole border though. Some stretches of the border do lend themselves to a physical barrier, and I'm fine with building there. A physical barrier can be overcome if you don't monitor it closely though. That was partially my point about the Maginot Line.
Like most situations no one thing will be a complete fix , the wall is a start in all places it is feasible, after that drones , cameras & border patrols , boats on the beaches ...have to do something , I feel sorry for the good people in them sh $t hole countries, but we can't bring them all here & borrow money to give them welfare.
 

roadtrasheer

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Not really guns don't kill people ..& the wall & cops is used to slow down the PEOPLE who kill ..the ILLEGAL PEOPLE. I don't understand the thinking that guns kill ,guns are a way people kill, taking guns is treating the symptom & not the problem
 

bornaneer

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A wall will not stop drug trafficking and will not put a significant dent in illegal immigration.
What is needed is a system that will allow workers into the country in large numbers in an efficient manner. Why?......because cheap and willing labor is needed in the country. That's why everyone turned a blind eye as to what has been going on for years and years.
 

roadtrasheer

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Willing labor is neaded! Yes it dang sure is & so is welfare reform ,to many people won't work jobs they don't like because of food stamps! I mean why would a legal pos get a low paying job if uncle Sam will pay him not to ..
 
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Just a few months ago you all were hating him, now you love him.........wonder why? And I don't personally care about the wall, just think that it will be a waste of money in the long run.
I have always thought he did a good job. I especially liked our conversation a couple of years ago at the Greenbrier Classic when he said that obama didn't give a damn about any of us...so there goes another of your conspiracy theories:thumbsdown:
 
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Naive in thinking the wall will put a dent in the drug trafficking trade.........Kind of the same argument you guys make about "gun control won't stop gun violence".........right?
you are a freaking idiot......just try to take my fathers coast guard service pistol from me, as unregistered as it might be, and see what happens......gun control will mean that more innocent people get killed by illegal guns while law abiding citizens can't protect themselves...and liberals like you squeal like babies when someone does defend themselves....eaboswhan
 

MountaineerWV

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Not really guns don't kill people ..& the wall & cops is used to slow down the PEOPLE who kill ..the ILLEGAL PEOPLE. I don't understand the thinking that guns kill ,guns are a way people kill, taking guns is treating the symptom & not the problem

Ok then, the bullets.........bullet control.......

.....and "the people who kill....the illegal people"? So, all illegals kill people? Damn, get rid of them and we have ZERO violent crimes! Hooray!

 

roadtrasheer

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Again people kill ....& we can't help the born legal crazy people we have to deal with them , but if your political views come from comedians than I get how you come up with your ideas
 

MountaineerWV

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Again people kill ....& we can't help the born legal crazy people we have to deal with them , but if your political views come from comedians than I get how you come up with your ideas

Well, you chose a reality TV show personality as your president..........
 

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So, that same argument can be used for gun control then, right?

Immigration laws aren't being enforced just like a lot of the existing gun control laws are overlooked.

What is a "sanctuary city" anyway?Think if those weren't open for business by Dems encouraging illegals to visit they would be as anxious or bold to break our Laws?

Build the wall...electrify it and put Pitt Bulls who get fed only once a week on the other side for anyone dumb enough to try and breach it. Might not stop everyone, but the Dogs will get to eat the rest of the week for free.

Taco meat!
 
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Well, you chose a reality TV show personality as your president..........
and you chose a lying wench who stood silently by while her husband used the white house as his personal Kasbah, and who has had to drown her post election whinings in gallons of chardonnay......piss off
 

Keyser76

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and you chose a lying wench who stood silently by while her husband used the white house as his personal Kasbah, and who has had to drown her post election whinings in gallons of chardonnay......piss off
lol, he hit a nerve? You describing Melania? To steal a joke, I heard the weather was too "Stormy" for her in Davos.
 

MountaineerWV

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and you chose a lying wench who stood silently by while her husband used the white house as his personal Kasbah, and who has had to drown her post election whinings in gallons of chardonnay......piss off

Nope.......didn't vote for either..........wrote in Biden......
 

MountaineerWV

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and you chose a lying wench who stood silently by while her husband used the white house as his personal Kasbah, and who has had to drown her post election whinings in gallons of chardonnay......piss off

Heard that Melania decided not to go with Trump to Europe because it was a "stormy" forecast.......for future reference, try not to use the adultery of one man while your man is just as guilty......
 

Keyser76

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Immigration laws aren't being enforced just like a lot of the existing gun control laws are overlooked.

What is a "sanctuary city" anyway?Think if those weren't open for business by Dems encouraging illegals to visit they would be as anxious or bold to break or Laws?

Build the wall...electrify it and put Pitt Bulls who get fed only once a week on the other side for anyone dumb enough to try and breach it. Might not stop everyone, but the Dogs will get to eat the rest of the week for free.

Taco meat!
Or you could do some research on sanctuary cities and see what areas where large numbers of immigrants, legal and illegal, live deal with. It's like you are admitting you hate something that you aren't even sure of what it entails.