age of consent?

[atlkvb]

Can someone on the Left explain this to me?

Often you all argue that a 3 year old kid who thinks they're the opposite Sex should have the right without their Parent's interference to change their genetic makeup and become whatever their "natural desire" is. Say a little Boy who thinks he's really a Girl or vice-versa right? Don't restrict them right?

Yet you all are bent over in anger now with Roy Moore for allegedly "forcing" himself onto Teenaged Girls who were arguably too young & powerless to repulse his advances. Your outrage is based on their innocence and lack of "consent" as minors right? Adults preying on little Children right?

So my question to you all is, what is the "age of consent"? How can you simultaneously argue for little three year olds being allowed to change their sexual orientation, and in fact encouraging them to do so and explore their sexuality when they don't even know what "sex" is? Yet at the same time you seriously argue that a 14 year old has no clue about their sexuality, or the ability to tell a grown Damn *** Man "no"?

Why are 3 year olds more aware of their human sexuality in your World than pre-pubescent Teens?
(this is NOT an argument defending Roy Moore...I genuinely want to know how you all square this dichotomy in your relativistic morality?

Anyone?

btw...we on the Right think BOTH are immoral and wrong.

 

[Keyser76]

Can someone on the Left explain this to me?

Often you all argue that a 3 year old kid who thinks they're the opposite Sex should have the right without their Parwnt's interference to change their genetic makeup and become whatever their "natural desire" is. Say a little Boy who thinks he's really a Girl or vice-versa right? Don't restrict them right?

Yet you all are bent over in anger now over Roy Moore for allegedly "forcing" himself onto Teenaged Girls who were arguably too young & powerless to repulse his advances. Your outrage is based on their innocence and lack of "consent" as minors right? Adults preying Children right?

So my question to you all is, what is the "age of consent"? How can you simultaneously argue for little three year olds being allowed to change their sexual orientation, and in fact encouraging them to do so and explore their sexuality when they don't even know what "sex" is? Yet at the same time you seriously argue that a 14 year old has no clue about their sexuality, or the ability to tell a grown Damn *** Man "no"?

Why are 3 year olds more aware of their human sexuality in your World than pre-pubescent Teens?
(this is NOT an argument defending Roy Moore...I genuinely want to know how you all square this dichotomy in your relativistic morality?

Anyone?

btw...we on the Right think BOTH are immoral and wrong.

Read up on Chromosomes and actual cases on this topic. It ain't no skin off my nuts if you choose to be ignorant.

 

[EERs 3:16]

If a 30 year old is hanging out with 14 year olds (for the purpose of dating) then there's something wrong with the 30 year old.

The whole age of consent thingie is just something that a pissed off parent can use to ruin the life of some kid that just porked his precious little daughter.

 

[atlkvb]

Read up on Chromosomes and actual cases on this topic. It ain't no skin off my nuts if you choose to be ignorant.

Wanna link me to that Gay Chromosome?

What does a 3 year old know about being "gay"? Half of em still have trouble pushing out their own poop into a toilet let alone knowing how to let some other little Dude with his pee wee roto rooter pack it in!

 

[roadtrasheer]

Not condoning Roy ..but at one time it was normal for a 20 25 year old to marry & breed 14 or 15 year old girls ..correct me if im wrong
I think roy needs his balls smashed

 

[atlkvb]

Not condoning Roy ..but at one time it was normal for a 20 25 year old to marry & breed 14 or 15 year old girls ..correct me if im wrong
I think roy needs his balls smashed

Agreed. Overseas especially in Muslim countries the Left wants us to be sensitive to that is common. (Teenagers Marrying older Men) More than one per Dude too!

Muhammad had a whole concubine of barely ripe little strawberries to pick among.

He's enlightened don't you know?

 

[op2]

Have there been people on here saying that a 3 year old kid should be allowed to have a sex change operation without the parents interference? That's a new one. I question whether people have been saying that on here.

That said, I did read of a case where a father was going to let his 3 year old son start to undergo whatever the procedures are to transition to a female and I not only think it should not be allowed, I think it's horrible child abuse. A 3 year old child can barely tell the difference between reality and a cartoon, much less understand complex things like biology and gender. Permanently altering a 3 year olds body because you think it should be a girl instead of a boy? No!

 

[atlkvb]

Have there been people on here saying that a 3 year old kid should be allowed to have a sex change operation without the parents interference? That's a new one. I question whether people have been saying that on here.

That said, I did read of a case where a father was going to let his 3 year old son start to undergo whatever the procedures are to transition to a female and I not only think it should not be allowed, I think it's horrible child abuse. A 3 year old child can barely tell the difference between reality and a cartoon, much less understand complex things like biology and gender. Permanently altering a 3 year olds body because you think it should be a girl instead of a boy? No!

This is common thought and philosophy among Leftist child psychologists and perverts. I also agree with you on this. Why can't we just leave little kids alone about Sex? Let em grow up and just be carefree kids?

Pisses me off!

 

[mule_eer]

This is common thought and philosophy among Leftist child psychologists and perverts. I also agree with you on this. Why can't we just leave little kids alone about Sex? Let em grow up and just be carefree kids?

Pisses me off!

Is it really common thought among any group of child psychologists to let 3 year olds begin a transition? I really doubt that. A kid that young doesn't know or understand anything about that sort of stuff. I wouldn't let any minor start any of that kind of thing.

 

[atlkvb]

Is it really common thought among any group of child psychologists to let 3 year olds begin a transition? I really doubt that. A kid that young doesn't know or understand anything about that sort of stuff. I wouldn't let any minor start any of that kind of thing.

I agree but read some of the activist stuff on that. Especially NAMBLA and a few of the LGBTQ groups like that.

Disgusting.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

I agree but read some of the activist stuff on that. Especially NAMBLA and a few of the LBGTQ groups like that.

Disgusting.

You do a lot of NAMBLA reading? This sure is a weird obsession you have. Me thinks you doth protest too much.

 

[mule_eer]

I agree but read some of the activist stuff on that. Especially NAMBLA and a few of the LGBTQ groups like that.

Disgusting.

I would disregard NAMBLA recommendations immediately. I seriously doubt any sane LBGTQ group would recommend a child of age 3 should go through any form of gender reassignment.

 

[D. Denzil Finney]

Can someone on the Left explain this to me?

Often you all argue that a 3 year old kid who thinks they're the opposite Sex should have the right without their Parent's interference to change their genetic makeup and become whatever their "natural desire" is. Say a little Boy who thinks he's really a Girl or vice-versa right? Don't restrict them right?

Yet you all are bent over in anger now with Roy Moore for allegedly "forcing" himself onto Teenaged Girls who were arguably too young & powerless to repulse his advances. Your outrage is based on their innocence and lack of "consent" as minors right? Adults preying Children right?

So my question to you all is, what is the "age of consent"? How can you simultaneously argue for little three year olds being allowed to change their sexual orientation, and in fact encouraging them to do so and explore their sexuality when they don't even know what "sex" is? Yet at the same time you seriously argue that a 14 year old has no clue about their sexuality, or the ability to tell a grown Damn *** Man "no"?

Why are 3 year olds more aware of their human sexuality in your World than pre-pubescent Teens?
(this is NOT an argument defending Roy Moore...I genuinely want to know how you all square this dichotomy in your relativistic morality?

Anyone?

btw...we on the Right think BOTH are immoral and wrong.

Can you cite an instance where all of the left are in agreement that parents should have no say in what the sexuality of their children? Conversely can you show me an instance where all on the right are against the same scenario?

The age of consent should be determined by law -- like in how many States, localities, or rural areas is it legal for an adult to take advantage of a child. However, the age of consent and the age of reasoning -- not the same thing -- do not coinside with one another. Promises of favors, good times, money etc, are all ammo for "Lester, the Molester".

BTW, I would bet that most Americans would unaminously agree that both are immoral and wrong.

 

[atlkvb]

Can you cite an instance where all of the left are in agreement that parents should have no say in what the sexuality of their children? Conversely can you show me an instance where all on the right are against the same scenario?

The age of consent should be determined by law -- like in how many States, localities, or rural areas is it legal for an adult to take advantage of a child. However, the age of consent and the age of reasoning -- not the same thing -- do not coinside with one another. Promises of favors, good times, money etc, are all ammo for "Lester, the Molester".

BTW, I would bet that most Americans would unaminously agree that both are immoral and wrong.

Sure here read about your friends on the left.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...3DggQFggtMAM&usg=AOvVaw136fe50xuDQBo8AmzxV00_

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...cratic-graduates-cannot-determine-person-sex/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...al-psychologist-child-sex-abuse-a6965956.html

I have more, but you can start there. You're on the Left, how much of that do you disagree with?

 

[atlkvb]

I would disregard NAMBLA recommendations immediately. I seriously doubt any sane LBGTQ group would recommend a child of age 3 should go through any form of gender reassignment.

Explain this then

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...cratic-graduates-cannot-determine-person-sex/


These are educated Democrats saying your sex is not determined at birth!

 

[atlkvb]

You do a lot of NAMBLA reading? This sure is a weird obsession you have. Me thinks you doth protest too much.

You folks on the Left are loopy. You are so loopy you don't even know how loopy some on your side are. These folks I've linked to advocating sex with kids are NOT on the Right. Nice try.

But you are sorely lacking in either a Defense for this Leftist lunacy or an explanation.

 

[atlkvb]

You do a lot of NAMBLA reading? This sure is a weird obsession you have. Me thinks you doth protest too much.

I make statements about the Left's obsession with sex for little kids and back it up asking for one of you to defend it and you come back accusing me of being a Pedophile.

This is how weak your side is. Aren't you proud of your ability to so easily demonstrate your ineptitude? Nice job Coop.

 

[atlkvb]

You do a lot of NAMBLA reading? This sure is a weird obsession you have. Me thinks you doth protest too much.

Here's more Coop.

Explain
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/what-your-child-needs-know-about-sex-and-when/201112/teaching-your-young-child-about

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Here's more Coop.

Explain
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/what-your-child-needs-know-about-sex-and-when/201112/teaching-your-young-child-about

OBSESSED

 

[atlkvb]

OBSESSED

That's your explanation of this Leftist lunacy? I'm obsessed. Got it Coop.

 

[atlkvb]

OBSESSED

What does this mean Cooper?

Cure my obsession that this is not something we should be stressing to pre teens?
(she wonders why the kids roll their eyes)
From article
" if children do not receive tolerant messages from their parents you can bet that the heterosexist world they live in will do all it can to foster gender variant bigotry and misunderstanding as they grow.

Explain Coop. WTF is a "heterosexist world"?

Is that where Men are men and Women are Women like normally?

 

[D. Denzil Finney]

Sure here read about your friends on the left.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...3DggQFggtMAM&usg=AOvVaw136fe50xuDQBo8AmzxV00_

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...cratic-graduates-cannot-determine-person-sex/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...al-psychologist-child-sex-abuse-a6965956.html

I have more, but you can start there. You're on the Left, how much of that do you disagree with?

Don't hedge on your original statement - -
You said:
"Often you all argue that a 3 year old kid who thinks they're the opposite Sex should have the right without their Parent's interference to change their genetic makeup and become whatever their "natural desire" is. Say a little Boy who thinks he's really a Girl or vice-versa right? Don't restrict them right?"

Your citations condemn ALL people on the left. Do some feel that way, probably yes. And I would bet there are people on the right who also feel that way and Centrists also.

I am registered Democrat for voting purposes but have voted for the Republican Candidate in every election from GHWB through Romney. I placed a writein vote in this past election.

I am a Democrat and I am in opposition to what you say concerning all leftists.

 

[bamaEER]

OBSESSED

yup

 

[atlkvb]

Your citations condemn ALL people on the left. Do some feel that way, probably yes. And I would bet there are people on the right who also feel that way and Centrists also.

I'll accept that Finney. Now, I answered your question to me when you asked me to actually cite some Leftists who thought as I suggested in my OP. I did (and could have linked you to more but I made my point)

So now I'm challenging you to return the favor. Can you cite some prominent people on the right who advocate Sex with Children in the degree I linked folks on the Left to you? If you can link me to a few on the right who advocate this debauchery, then I'll gladly accept your position this is not limited to the Left. I'm sure what you say is true, but I don't know any who do. Do you?

Feel free to link me to as many as you can find who are as open about that as the folks on the Left I linked you to. I'll wait.

 

[atlkvb]

yup

Ya'll may not like what I linked to in this thread (trust me there's A LOT more) but these are your folks on your side.

Sorry for the exposing the reality of what some on your side believe but it is what it is.

 

[atlkvb]

"Often you all argue that a 3 year old kid who thinks they're the opposite Sex should have the right without their Parent's interference to change their genetic makeup and become whatever their "natural desire" is. Say a little Boy who thinks he's really a Girl or vice-versa right? Don't restrict them right?"

Finney, did you read that link I posted in this thread where the Pew survey found that over 70% of Educated Democrats do not believe your Sex is determined at birth? Over 70% my Man! I'll agree that's not "all" Democrats but if 70% of folks on the Right believed Blacks were inferior to White folks wouldn't you be saying "all" Conservatives are racist? You folks on the Left say that now about less than 2% of folks and they aren't even Conservatives (Klansmen and Nazis who you all like to pin on the Right) 70% of any group is a vast majority of that group, and that survey found most of you all don't think a person's Sex is determined at Birth!

Unreal.

 

[atlkvb]

I would disregard NAMBLA recommendations immediately. I seriously doubt any sane LBGTQ group would recommend a child of age 3 should go through any form of gender reassignment.

OK...then what about this?

excerpt from of the linked articles:
"In their technical writings, researchers in this area simply refer to pint-sized prospective gays and lesbians as “prehomosexual.” This term isn’t perfect—it manages to achieve both an uncomfortable air of biological determinism and clinical interventionism simultaneously. But it is, at least, probably fairly accurate".

(LGBTQ advocates early Public education of sexuality in kids)
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15118/

or this:
(encouraging homosexuality early on in kids)
https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...osexual-forecasting-adult-sexual-orientation/

or this:
(building Childhood understanding of LGBTQ Lifestyles)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK64808/

Now mind you...I'm just quoting what folks on the Left believe about this subject and how they think it should be advocated for little kids. I oppose all of it, but they think it's perfectly fine and argue for such. I want someone on the Left to defend this to me.

Where are you? Why aren't you calling these perverts out if you disagree with them? If you agree with them, why aren't you on here defending them?

You all nauseate me.

 

[atlkvb]

I am a Democrat and I am in opposition to what you say concerning all leftists.

OK Finney, I've linked to many articles in this thread folks on your side in the LGBTQ community advocate for when it comes to teaching little kids about their sexuality. I didn't make any of it up. How much of it do you disagree with? That's what I want to know and none of you on the Left in this forum will explain yourselves.

Why not?

 

[atlkvb]

yup

OK bamaEER, why don't you post what you disagree with in any of the positions your friends on the Left promote when it comes to Sexuality and little kids. Do you disagree with the Pew survey I linked to showing more than 70% of College educated Democrats do not think your sexuality is determined at birth?

If you disagree with that, what is your position on it?

Ya know, it's amazing to me how you Leftists are so quick to accuse us on the Right of anything you can think of...racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic...usually without any proof. Yet when the proof of your own sexual perversions especially when it comes to little kids is presented to you and you're asked to defend it, you are as hard to find as a maggot happily worming its way through a mutant pile of horse dung.

I know you can't defend it, or don't want to. So why do you vote for it, or call those of us who stand against it "homophobes"?

 

[atlkvb]

OBSESSED

You know Cooper it's a Damn shame you can't even come on here and defend whatever it is you support or object to about pumping homosexuality into little kids. I can confidently state I oppose all of it, because it is not morally right. If you agree with me, why can't you say that? If you disagree with me, why can't you defend yourself?

No wonder being on the Left makes you paranoid schizoid.

 

[atlkvb]

Read up on Chromosomes and actual cases on this topic. It ain't no skin off my nuts if you choose to be ignorant.

You've had every opportunity in this thread to defend yourself, or point me to the "gay chromosome". You've forgotten how to post what you support or argue for? You can't find what you're suggesting I'm ignorant of? Educate me. If I'm ignorant because I'm not aware of a "gay chromosome" then link me to your actual case studies on this topic which prove me in error that there is such a thing? (gay chromosome)

If you can't link me, what am I ignorant of?

 

[atlkvb]

If a 30 year old is hanging out with 14 year olds (for the purpose of dating) then there's something wrong with the 30 year old.

The whole age of consent thingie is just something that a pissed off parent can use to ruin the life of some kid that just porked his precious little daughter.

Why is this wrong (in your mind) yet teaching little 4th and 5th graders how to determine if they are Gay is OK? What makes the 14 year old Girl sacred from an Adult sexually attracted to her, but for little kids it's open season for grown adults to encourage them to either be sexual or openly investigate their sexuality especially for their same Sex or with other Adults?

Explain what the difference is?

(BTW...I oppose ALL Adult sexual interaction with kids...Gay or otherwise...leave little kids alone)

 

[BombadEER]

The answer:
Liberalism is a brain disease

 

[eerdoc]

If a 30 year old is hanging out with 14 year olds (for the purpose of dating) then there's something wrong with the 30 year old.

The whole age of consent thingie is just something that a pissed off parent can use to ruin the life of some kid that just porked his precious little daughter.

So many holes in your myopic logic one would struggle to even try and reason through all of them.
I am inclined to agree with your assertion that “ ... there’s something wrong with the 30 year old...” but I refuse to automatically assign the same sinisterism to the action that you do adamantly declare .This WAS 40 years ago . Did he grow up and live through his early years in rural Alabama? Was he, at age 30 as sophisticated as are large parts of of 2017 society ? Once he married and had a family he, apparently, lived a life devoid of unfaithfulness to that wife and family ( a characteristic not so very common in the 2017 society). Liberals preach for the rehabilitation of those committing crimes but are so inconsistent in this cas—-which really represents a TRUE rehabilitation. But you choose to be holier than he! Are you qualified to even offer criticism?