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dave

dave

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bamaEER said:
like any big company or agency, they’ve had their problems. But that’s not what this is about. Biff wants them out of the way. Like I said, that effort is losing steam. Science, the courts and 38% are on our side
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Hahahahaha. The EPA uses science that isnt science yet for their cause.
 
atlkvb

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
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bamaEER said:
like any big company or agency, they’ve had their problems. But that’s not what this is about. Biff wants them out of the way. Like I said, that effort is losing steam. Science, the courts and 38% are on our side
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Money to fund them though is not...and Trump is pulling the financial plug on a lot of their non essential mischief.
 
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Boomboom521

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Mar 14, 2014
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bamaEER said:
Last two paragraphs of your article explain why the EPA is vital...

--In 1969, the Cuyahoga River hit rock bottom with the infamous fire. There was so much oil in the river that it became very flammable. The River became a dead river, meaning it had no oxygen in it. Having no oxygen in the river, made it impossible for any plant or animal life to live. Akron and Cleveland dumped sewage in it, steel and automobile industries caused the river to become one of the worst rivers in Ohio's history.

--The River has made a remarkable recovery. It is known as a success story and an example for other polluted rivers to follow. The 1972 Clean Water Act made many regulations in what could be dumped in the water. The chemistry of the Cuyahoga River has to be good enough to support aquatic life. Many laws have been passed to forbid the sewage from the past of getting into the river. Many years ago Edgewater Beach was closed due to the severe pollution. Edgewater beach is now open to the public today for swimming and picnicking. The Cuyahoga is by no means perfect, but is an example of what could be done to save a very important river.
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Keep up the good work. Thanks!
 
dave

dave

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Boomboom521 said:
Did you know that Nixon founded the EPA?
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Really? You think that at some point in engineering school we might have covered the Clean Water Act?

Nothing the EPA is doing today resembles their comission though. The clean water act set up a 40 year plan to clean up pollution, sedimentation of watersheds. It was set up in 4 10 year phases. The EPA did a great job with all of that but the recent attempts to expand on all of that are not even close to helpful.
 
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mule_eer

Freshman
May 6, 2002
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dave said:
You are so gullible.
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I guess I was just gullible enough to think that I was smelling sulfur in old ponds near where I grew up. I guess I was just gullible enough to believe that some drainage ponds at a factory near my hometown were leeching acid into the ground. I know the EPA has some ridiculous regulations, but they are still a necessary entity. Anyone from WV should have a pretty good handle on that with the history of mining in the state. The people who run those companies aren't always your neighbors, and they don't always care how they leave the place when they go.
 
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Boomboom521

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Mar 14, 2014
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dave said:
Really? You think that at some point in engineering school we might have covered the Clean Water Act?

Nothing the EPA is doing today resembles their comission though. The clean water act set up a 40 year plan to clean up pollution, sedimentation of watersheds. It was set up in 4 10 year phases. The EPA did a great job with all of that but the recent attempts to expand on all of that are not even close to helpful.
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There will always be a major role for the EPA. I think that role should be expanded not shrunk. Look around at all the carcinogens in our environment and products. From fire resistant furniture and mattresses to deodorants. It’s not a scam, it’s not a liberal myth, it’s a serious problem and it needs an organization not focused on profit to address it wholesale.
 
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TarHeelEer

Freshman
Dec 15, 2002
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Boomboom521 said:
I think that role should be expanded not shrunk.
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They did good until they bought into the green initiatives.

I'm sure 500 things I've touched so far today could kill me if I continually ate it. I also drank from the water hose as a kid. I'm still here. I don't need my life expectancy to be 140 years. I couldn't put up with you all for that long.

Do I want a clean environment? Yes. Do I want the federal government regulating my 2 foot wide creek beside my property as a navigational waterway? No. The EPA should set guidelines, and the states should enforce. They certainly don't need a SWAT team.
 
Airport

Airport

All-American
Dec 12, 2001
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mule_eer said:
I guess I was just gullible enough to think that I was smelling sulfur in old ponds near where I grew up. I guess I was just gullible enough to believe that some drainage ponds at a factory near my hometown were leeching acid into the ground. I know the EPA has some ridiculous regulations, but they are still a necessary entity. Anyone from WV should have a pretty good handle on that with the history of mining in the state. The people who run those companies aren't always your neighbors, and they don't always care how they leave the place when they go.
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They are not a legislative body. They have been making policy instead.
 
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bamaEER

Freshman
May 29, 2001
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TarHeelEer said:
They did good until they bought into the green initiatives.

I'm sure 500 things I've touched so far today could kill me if I continually ate it. I also drank from the water hose as a kid. I'm still here. I don't need my life expectancy to be 140 years. I couldn't put up with you all for that long.

Do I want a clean environment? Yes. Do I want the federal government regulating my 2 foot wide creek beside my property as a navigational waterway? No. The EPA should set guidelines, and the states should enforce. They certainly don't need a SWAT team.
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Pruitt has his eyes set on doing away with far more than green initiatives.
 
dave

dave

Senior
May 29, 2001
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Boomboom521 said:
There will always be a major role for the EPA. I think that role should be expanded not shrunk. Look around at all the carcinogens in our environment and products. From fire resistant furniture and mattresses to deodorants. It’s not a scam, it’s not a liberal myth, it’s a serious problem and it needs an organization not focused on profit to address it wholesale.
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The EPA is a joke and needs to go away period.
 
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