Kerry was right about one thing today

CAJUNEER_rivals

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The two-state solution is in serious jeopardy. The mercy of the Israelis in 1969 has come back to bite them time and time again.
 

WVPATX

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A 2 state solution, which I support, will never happen until the Palestinians recognize Israel's right to exist and actually sit down at the negotiation table. Secondly, it won't happen by U.N. decree, it must be negotiated. Remember, Arafat ran away from Clinton's negotiated agreement where the PLO got 97% of what they asked for. Why? Because the Palestinians want to destroy Israel, not live side by side. I think Israel is prepared to give up the settlements as part of the peace negotiation, but Jerusalem is non-negotiable. Jerusalem should be accessible by both Arabs, Jews and Christians, but the land belongs to Israel. The Arabs made a horrible strategic mistake in 1967. They threatened war, amassed their soldiers on Israeli borders, told Israel they would wipe them off the map. In 6 days, Israel moved Egyptian forces back to Egypt, and essentially destroyed Syria and Jordan. Israel also captured all of Jerusalem. When wars start, the defeated generally lose land. Certainly true in WWII for example with Germany. And the Arabs lost land.

This Obama lead knife in the back of Israel will only make matter worse. Israel will defy, as they already are by pledging to build new settlements in the far West Bank. Iran is arming Hamas with the billions we gave to them. An intifada is certainly possible and made more possible by this action on the Administration's part.
 

bamaEER

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The two-state solution is in serious jeopardy. The mercy of the Israelis in 1969 has come back to bite them time and time again.
Trump's not helping. He's knee-jerk tweeting his way into lives lost in the West Bank.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Trump's not helping. He's knee-jerk tweeting his way into lives lost in the West Bank.
A good President would have reached out to Trump and asked him if these decisions would follow inline with his policy. Obama is out and there is a massive change coming. This is really bad form on the Obama whitehouse.

Past Presidents have worked with the incoming administrations to ensure nothing that occurred during their lame duck period would impact the incoming administration's plans. One more example of what a failure Barry is as a leader.
 

WVPATX

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Trump's not helping. He's knee-jerk tweeting his way into lives lost in the West Bank.

How is Trump hurting the process? He simply told Israel that things will change on January 20th. Obama is a lame duck and everyone knows it. Policies change with new administrations.

Peace won't be achieved by a U.N. resolution. It will only be achieved at the negotiating table. Palestine has refused to meet to negotiate. Trump is rightfully telling the world that his administration does not agree with Obama and that on January 20th, things will be different. What Trump will do is anyone's guess, but he is being honest.

Congress has already started a defending effort for the U.N. Dems as well as the GOP are on board in condemning the Obama administration.
 
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I am no middle east expert and surely not a Biblical scholar but it seems that throughout my lifetime, Israel has been the party willing to concede at almost every turn and the Palestinians were the party that preached, and practiced, the destruction of Israel. Why Obama has chosen the path he has, only he knows I guess.
 

bamaEER

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A good President would have reached out to Trump and asked him if these decisions would follow inline with his policy. Obama is out and there is a massive change coming. This is really bad form on the Obama whitehouse.

Past Presidents have worked with the incoming administrations to ensure nothing that occurred during their lame duck period would impact the incoming administration's plans. One more example of what a failure Barry is as a leader.
How do you know Obama hasn't? Trump is stepping all over Palestine and he isn't even President yet.
 
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Obama is a foreign policy master.

Trump is a foreign policy kindergartener.

You idiots aren't even intelligent enough to realize it. You poor stupid bastards have been played by a buffoon. He's a con man.
 

WVPATX

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Obama is a foreign policy master.

Trump is a foreign policy kindergartener.

You idiots aren't even intelligent enough to realize it. You poor stupid bastards have been played by a buffoon. He's a con man.

You have got to be kidding me? Obama a foreign policy master? Let me give you a few of his masterful maneuvers:

Russian reset
South Chine Sea debacle
South Korean nuclear missile testing
Iran deal
Syria
Libya
Support Muslim Brotherhood in Eqypt
Ignore the Green Revolution in Iran
Leaves Iraq opening a hole for ISIS to climb through
ISIS in far more countries today than when Obama entered office
The Taliban gaining strength in Afghanistan
Millions upon millions of migrants flooding Europe and destabilizing the Continent
World wide terrorists attacks on the rise


Truly a masterful performance.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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Trump's not helping. He's knee-jerk tweeting his way into lives lost in the West Bank.
I don't think so. Israel tried capitulation time and again. It only made matters worse. They've leaned hardline with limited results. I think the only thing that will work is to place the Palestinians in full and imminent existential crisis. As stated above the Palestinian Authority or ruling government must recognize Israel's right to exist first and foremost. Trump recognizes Israel must have the full and undivided support of the US to accomplish peace.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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[laughing][laughing][laughing]

Obama is a foreign policy master.

Trump is a foreign policy kindergartener.

You idiots aren't even intelligent enough to realize it. You poor stupid bastards have been played by a buffoon. He's a con man.
Even many democrats who love his domestic policy consider Obama a foreign policy failure.
 

rog1187

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Obama is a foreign policy master.

Trump is a foreign policy kindergartener.

You idiots aren't even intelligent enough to realize it. You poor stupid bastards have been played by a buffoon. He's a con man.
LOL...how'd that Red Line in the Sand work out for everyone...foreign policy master my ***