yep, it's a forgery...

[atlkvb]

So Trump's birth certificate charade wasn't designed to appeal to the racists among us? He can say he's not a racist all he want. But when he does what he did in addition to talking about "The Blacks", and "there's my African -American over there, among other things, a picture starts to be painted. You should wake up.

No. Because there isn't anything in any of those statements that says "I hate Black people". Obama's BC fiasco was of his own choosing, because as I stated earlier in this thread he could have put those legitimate questions about where he was born to bed much earlier by just producing the damn thing instead of acting all offended he was questioned about it. He did not grow up here, which raised legitimate questions about where he was born. But there was nothing "racist" about asking the questions or even questioning his policies.


He's not above peer review just because of his skin color. Yet the Left always throws out the term "racist" if anyone so much as even suggests he doesn't walk on water.

 

[atlkvb]

And then we have the discrimination lawsuits he's lost as a landlord. But he says he's not racist. lenny does too.

And we never hear from the many Black people he's either hired or helped financially without calling attention to himself. He's hired more Black people and signed more paychecks for people of color than Obama. But in the Media he hates Black people by calling one of them out during a rally?

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

No. Because thee isn't anything in any of those statements that says "I hate Black people". Obama's BC fiasco was of his own choosing, because as I stated earlier in this thread he could have put those legitimate questions about where he was born to bed much earlier by just producing the damn thing instead of acting all offended he was questioned about it. He did not grow up here, which raised legitimate questions about where he was born. But there was nothing "racist" about asking the questions or even questioning his policies.


He's not above peer review just because of his skin color. Yet the Left always throws out the term "racist" if anyone so much as even suggests he doesn't walk on water.

You fit right in with the rest of the kool aid drinking wingnuts here. Obama's mother was an American citizen. period. ergo BHO was an American citizen from birth. Just like Cruz. Yet, despite this fact and despite that he had a BC and there was other evidence that he actually was born in the US (which isn't required) like a newspaper birth announcement, there still was a punch to de-legitimize him that continues to this day. You people are truly a pathetic lot.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

And we never hear from the many Black people he's either hired or helped financially without calling attention to himself. He's hired more Black people and signed more paychecks for people of color than Obama. But in the Media he hates Black people by calling one of them out during a rally?

He's hired illegal immigrants too. And wants companies to produce their products here too despite his own products being produced out of the country. PT Barnum would be proud.

 

[atlkvb]

You fit right in with the rest of the kool aid drinking wingnuts here

And you fit right in with the rest of Lefties on here who always resort to this sort of name calling rhetoric when they have no other answers or legitimate points to make.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

And you fit right in with the rest of Lefties on here who always resort to this sort of name calling rhetoric when they have no other answers or legitimate points to make.

You can't read apparently.

 

[atlkvb]

He's hired illegal immigrants too. And wants companies to produce their products here too despite his own products being produced out of the country. PT Barnum would be proud.

Trump hires people. Their legal status to work here is what he's trying to address, but if they were presented to one of his contractors as legitimately being allowed to work here, why would he question that?

According to you, he should have just fired them because he's such a racist.

 

[atlkvb]

You can't read apparently.

And there is nothing wrong with your thought process?

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Here are my thoughts on the all topics at hand:

1. Lenny crosses the line all the time. Not sure if he is a full blown, hood-wearing racist or he just likes to stir the pot
2. RPJ should not have used the term Uncle Tom....ever
3. BHO is a US Citizen and this mindless debate should end for ever
4. Wingnuts lack the ability to reason through any argument
5. Libtards lack the ability to reason through any argument
6. We better beat Miami by 25-30 points or more tomorrow

 

[atlkvb]

Here are my thoughts on the all topics at hand:

1. Lenny crosses the line all the time. Not sure if he is a full blown, hood-wearing racist or he just likes to stir the pot
2. RPJ should not have used the term Uncle Tom....ever
3. BHO is a US Citizen and this mindless debate should end for ever
4. Wingnuts lack the ability to reason through any argument
5. Libtards lack the ability to reason through any argument
6. We better beat Miami by 25-30 points or more tomorrow

This I agree 100% with.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

No. Because thee isn't anything in any of those statements that says "I hate Black people".

Good lord man, "wake the f'uck up".

"My African American" suggests ownership.
He was sued for racial discrimination in housing and lost.
The "Central Park Five".

 

[atlkvb]

Good lord man, "wake the f'uck up".

"My African American" suggests ownership.
He was sued for racial discrimination in housing and lost.
The "Central Park Five".

Racists think Blacks are inferior. That's the classic definition of a "racist". One who believes in an inherent inferiority of a particular race. Show me where Trump thinks that countryroads89

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Racists think Blacks are inferior. That's the classic definition of a "racist". One who believes in an inherent inferiority of a particular race. Show me where Trump thinks that countryroads89

He would rather have Jews count his money than blacks.

He clearly didn't want to rent housing to blacks. Wonder why he felt that way?

 

[atlkvb]

He would rather have Jews count his money than blacks.

He clearly didn't want to rent housing to blacks. Wonder why he felt that way?

Where is your source (cite it) for your first statement?

If he didn't rent to Blacks in the first place, what was the suit about? (please cite references)

Finally, how does either of those examples you present to prove that he (Trump) is a racist demonstrate that?

rac·ist
ˈrāsəst/
noun

1. 1.
   a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
   synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More
   

adjective

1. 1.
   having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
   "we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"

 

[PriddyBoy]

He clearly didn't want to rent housing to blacks. Wonder why he felt that way?

Property value. It was an uncomfortable reality from tenant housing to suburbia.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Good lord man, "wake the f'uck up".

"My African American" suggests ownership.
He was sued for racial discrimination in housing and lost.
The "Central Park Five".

Arguing with a black man about racism....

Hilarious.

 

[atlkvb]

Arguing with a black man about racism....

Hilarious.

I know. Liberals. The kind compassionate tolerant types they are don't you know?

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Arguing with a black man about racism....

Hilarious.

The sad part is, the black man has been fooled to vote against his own interest.

The biggest fool of all is the one that fools their self.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Where is your source (cite it) for your first statement?

If he didn't rent to Blacks in the first place, what was the suit about? (please cite references)

Finally, how does either of those examples you present to prove that he (Trump) is a racist demonstrate that?

rac·ist
ˈrāsəst/
noun

1. 1.
   a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
   synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More

adjective

1. 1.
   having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
   "we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"

Here is my thoughts on the juvenile Trump: The people of various colors and ethnicities that he deals with speak highly of him pointing toward the common notion that he is extremely loyal to those loyal to him. I don't doubt that.. But we have daily reminders via twitter that he speaks before thinking. He obviously has said things that can be perceived as racist. (ie the black accountant comment and Mexican rapists).

So while I don't think he is a David Duke racist, I think there is enough evidence to suspect that he harbors certain bias toward minorities.

 

[atlkvb]

He obviously has said things that can be perceived as racist. (ie the black accountant comment and Mexican rapists).

So while I don't think he is a David Duke racist, I think there is enough evidence to suspect that he harbors certain bias toward minorities.

Saying these things about him Original Mountaineer 1 is one thing. Him actually being a racist, or saying things that are racist, or doing racist things is quite another.

I've asked both countryroads89 and now I'm asking you to show me anything Trump has either done, said, thinks, or believes that qualifies him as a "racist" ie: one who believes people of color or of any race are inherently inferior to him because they are not White like he is.

When you show me any of those things, I'll change my mind about him. Until then, all I hear are accusations, or mischaracterizations of public comments he's made that while they may even be obtuse, are no where near making him a "racist".

People making this charge calling him that ugly name simply hope that by repeating it often enough, and pointing out anything they can make out to be that (racist) by constantly pinning that label on him it will eventually stick or he'll get so tied down having to defend the charge that it ends up looking like he really is one.

That's the strategy I see the Left onto with Trump, for no other reason than pure hatred of him. Not because he is a racist.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Saying these things about him Original Mountaineer 1 is one thing. Him actually being a racist, or saying things that are racist, or doing racist things is quite another.

I've asked both countryroads89 and now I'm asking you to show me anything Trump has either done, said, thinks, or believes that qualifies him as a "racist" ie: one who believes people of color or of any race are inherently inferior to him because they are not White like he is.

When you show me any of those things, I'll change my mind about him. Until then, all I hear are accusations, or mischaracterizations of public comments he's made that while they may even be obtuse, are no where near making him a "racist".

People making this charge calling him that ugly name simply hope that by repeating it often enough, and pointing out anything they can make out to be that (racist) by constantly pinning that label on him it will eventually stick or he'll get so tied down having to defend the charge that it ends up looking like he really is one.

That's the strategy I see the Left onto with Trump, for no other reason than pure hatred of him. Not because he is a racist.

The multiple ironies of this post reaches a level that is unpresidented.

 

[atlkvb]

The multiple ironies of this post reaches a level that is unpresidented.

All I asked for is proof of Trump's "racist" behavior, statements, thoughts, actions, or deeds. No one has offered anything. Only name calling.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

All I asked for is proof of Trump's "racist" behavior, statements, thoughts, actions, or deeds. No one has offered anything. Only name calling.

Really? My African-American. The Blacks. Lost multiple discrimination suits for not renting to people of color-particularly Blacks, the Central Park 5 case-he was ready to execute those proven-innocent kids-wonder why? What a swell guy! Wonder why Blacks overwhelming voted against him? Wonder why NBA players are boycotting? What else do you want?

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

All I asked for is proof of Trump's "racist" behavior, statements, thoughts, actions, or deeds. No one has offered anything. Only name calling.

And for crying out load, the KKK endorsed him

 

[atlkvb]

And for crying out load, the KKK endorsed him

So what? He neither sought out or accepted their so called "endorsement". In fact he repudiated them and their beliefs...not once, but several times.

However Black Lives Matter...who openly call call for and advocate race riots was welcomed into the White House. Hillary held a fund raising concert with many of them in attendance using untold racist words like "N*g*e*r" and calling women "Bitches" and "Whores" (Hoes) and the Left was silent.

If anyone should be called out for being a bunch of sexists or racists based only on what they say in public, it should be those folks! Yet on the Left, they are celebrated.

 

[bornaneer]

And for crying out load, the KKK endorsed him

One little problem.......Trump NEVER endorsed the KKK......AND he has totally slammed the KKK. Your posts have reached a new level of racism......Any African American that disagrees with you gets the "Uncle Tom" treatment.......sickening.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

All I asked for is proof of Trump's "racist" behavior, statements, thoughts, actions, or deeds. No one has offered anything. Only name calling.

I told you about the DOJ lawsuit. HE LOST! They proved their case, racial discrimination in housing. Look it up for yourself. Surely you can google.

While you are at it, google the Central Park Five and tell me how he never jumped to conclusions and presumed the five boys innocent before being proven guilty.

And lastly, did you fall asleep from June 2016 until November 2016? It was on television practically every single day.

 

[atlkvb]

I told you about the DOJ lawsuit. HE LOST! They proved their case, racial discrimination in housing. Look it up for yourself. Surely you can google.

While you are at it, google the Central Park Five and tell me how he never jumped to conclusions and presumed the five boys innocent before being proven guilty.

And lastly, did you fall asleep from June 2016 until November 2016? It was on television practically every single day.

How does that prove he's a racist countryroads89? He "jumped to a conclusion" about a court case? Did not the Left do the same thing with Attorney General designate James Sessions, who was later exonerated of those ugly racism charges? Trump didn't call anyone "inferior" in the Central Park Five case...he thought they were guilty!

Racial discrimination in housing on what? Refusing to rent to Blacks because they were Black, or not renting to them for certain properties because they couldn't afford to live there?

And what did he ever say during the campaign that suggested Blacks were inferior to Whites? If it was "all over" the T-V everyday, give me one example.

 

[mneilmont]

So you are saying that Obama's mother was not a US Citizen? I want to make sure I understand you.

If you want go further with your insane argument, how do we know that the real Trump was not switched at birth with a sibling of Vlad Putin? Maybe the dude posing as DJT is a Russian born child?

Prove that accusation false please.......

You obviously did not understand, then you add a stupid comment, "So you are saying that Obama's mother was not a US Citizen". I did not say nor infer that. I would certainly have no basis for any comment at all to your ridiculous question.

Obviously, you want to continue this exchange in some convoluted form. I am not really doing anything at this time, but I am too occupied to attempt to follow such asinine trail

 

[Mntneer]

And for crying out load, the KKK endorsed him

Weak argument is weak.

 

[mneilmont]

Here are my thoughts on the all topics

You are not qualified to make the analysis you have just from a few comments you read on this forum. The comments may be inappropriate from your point of view. But no one has suggested your point of view is more valid than any other. Are you able to determine a written comment is descriptive of the person or even that the comment is intended to get a rise out of the audience. Is it not all for entertainment?

And I would take a two TD win over any opponent for the Mountaineers. I don't think Miami has taken a beating from many of 4 TDs. I would accept 70 points again, but damned if I can put that kind of pressure on myself to have an expectation like that. Would you accept a 4 point win?

 

[mneilmont]

Folks the comment about preference for a Jew as accountant is part of a very old joke in financial world because of their ability to take care of money. No one is slammed in that comment.

 

[atlkvb]

The sad part is, the black man has been fooled to vote against his own interest.

What interest of mine did I vote against voting for Trump countryroads89?

Please inform me?

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Folks the comment about preference for a Jew as accountant is part of a very old joke in financial world because of their ability to take care of money. No one is slammed in that comment.

Good lord. Really? Did you hear the one about the Black guy and the watermelon?

 

[atlkvb]

Really? My African-American. The Blacks. Lost multiple discrimination suits for not renting to people of color-particularly Blacks, the Central Park 5 case-he was ready to execute those proven-innocent kids-wonder why? What a swell guy! Wonder why Blacks overwhelming voted against him? Wonder why NBA players are boycotting? What else do you want?

All proof of his "White race superiority" over those folks right RPJ?

So was Hillary calling Black Trump supporters like me "deplorable" racist?
You think Trump didn't have a lot of Black support?

Was Democrats systematically telling illegals to register & vote "racist" encouraging them to break the Law and face deportation?

Was big city Democrat pols stealing employee pension funds (most of whom were minority) racist?

Since we're redrawing the lines over what a true racist is, let's open up the sewer and let all of the racist sludge out huh RJP?

 

[atlkvb]

Good lord. Really? Did you hear the one about the Black guy and the watermelon?

And you're calling people on the right "racist"?

I've never heard anyone Republican or Christian even suggest such a contemptible, noxious, ignominious, ignoble, reviling joke. Look in the mirror before you suggest anyone is a "racist" with your reprobate thought and mind RJP!

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

And you're calling people on the right "racist"?

I've never heard anyone Republican or Christian even suggest such a contemptible, noxious, ignominious, ignoble, reviling joke. Look in the mirror before you suggest anyone is a "racist" with your reprobate thought and mind RJP!

Geez. Can't you read and understand context. Let me help. The douchebag above says it's ok for Trump to stereotype Jews as money grubbers. I respond with a sarcastic Black person-watermelon comment to show context as to how ridiculous his stereotype is. And you think it is me in this thread who is racist? You sir, are an idiot.

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

Geez. Can't you read and understand context. Let me help. The douchebag above says it's ok for Trump to stereotype Jews as money grubbers. I respond with a sarcastic Black person-watermelon comment to show context as to how ridiculous his stereotype is. And you think it is me in this thread who is racist? You sir, are an idiot.

He's the idiot? Within the context of this thread you called him an Uncle Tom, then refused to delete it or walk it back.

 

[atlkvb]

You sir, are an idiot.

Well you know what RJP because you've so expertly defined what one (idiot) is, I'm convinced you are now our resident BL expert knowing exactly what is required to achieve said expertise demonstrating precisely how to acquire intimate knowledge as to the necessary skills required to evaluate one.

Nice job, you're really good at what you do.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

He's the idiot? Within the context of this thread you called him an Uncle Tom, then refused to delete it or walk it back.

Let's see, the man is a birther. He refuses to see racisim in trump's losing a lawsuit that siad he discriminated against Blacks. He defends Trumps accusations against 3 proven innocent Black guys. He doesn't see Trump's comments referring to "The Blacks" as racist. He doesn't see Trump's comments referring a man in his audience as "My African-American" as racist. He doesn't see anything wrong with a poster in this thread comparing to Blacks as apes as racist. It's a bizarro world we are living in, apparently.