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Bush had many, many, many opportunities to bash Obama. He decided the President was elected and deserves the opportunity to run the country without being attacked by a former President. George H.W. Bush did the same with Clinton.

That is called class.

Obama, on the other hand, has already said he will essentially counter Trump on a daily basis. That is called lack of class.
 
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WVPATX said:
Bush had many, many, many opportunities to bash Obama. He decided the President was elected and deserves the opportunity to run the country without being attacked by a former President. George H.W. Bush did the same with Clinton.

That is called class.

Obama, on the other hand, has already said he will essentially counter Trump on a daily basis. That is called lack of class.
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Obama has never had any class.
 
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Another trolling thread by a worthless poster just making up **** and then will continue with more crap posts. He needs to just be ignored or mocked.
 
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WVPATX said:
Bush had many, many, many opportunities to bash Obama. He decided the President was elected and deserves the opportunity to run the country without being attacked by a former President. George H.W. Bush did the same with Clinton.

That is called class.

Obama, on the other hand, has already said he will essentially counter Trump on a daily basis. That is called lack of class.
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If you really want to understand how he operates try this:

Consider anything he says and it's the exact opposite.

Look at the stated intentions on any of his promises, then go back and observe what's actually been the exact opposite results.

It is truly stunning how consistently this rule applies when it comes to him no matter what he says or what he does.

Amazing.
 
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WVPATX

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WVUBRU said:
lol. Maybe your other whacko buddy atlnutjob will come to my defense and whine about you treating me rough.

You need to climb back under that rock in your mom's basement as well, Troll.
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I noticed you didn't comment on the article. It validates what I said and not a peep from you. Once again, can you read?
 
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I swear Bud changed his moniker, and phased it in while phasing the old one out.
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He called me a liar claiming I was making up ****. I posted the very liberal NY Times stating Obama's intentions of remaining an active voice in the Trump era. He doesn't dispute the article. He doesn't admit he was wrong. He simply attacks, not very intelligent.
 
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Oh after he leaves office, who cares? He may be doing the nation a favor. You believe in freedom of speech don't you? Don't be so afraid of those who would criticize the new tweeter in chief. I'm sure if the critics are wrong then the truth will win out.
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I provided a link that you requested. You obviously doubted the story. I said NOTHING about free speech. I said CLASSLESS.

Both Bushes represented class. Neither went after either Clinton (plenty of fodder for the elder Bush to hit Clinton on) or Obama (even after Obama blamed Bush for everything and did so over many, many years).
 
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WVPATX said:
I provided a link that you requested. You obviously doubted the story. I said NOTHING about free speech. I said CLASSLESS.

Both Bushes represented class. Neither went after either Clinton (plenty of fodder for the elder Bush to hit Clinton on) or Obama (even after Obama blamed Bush for everything and did so over many, many years).
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The story says that he may get involved and he may not. Maybe you should wait until something happens before you start the whining but it's a message board and you can keep posting any kind of nonsense you want.
 
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moe said:
The story says that he may get involved and he may not. Maybe you should wait until something happens before you start the whining but it's a message board and you can keep posting any kind of nonsense you want.
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He is going to get involved. When he does, will you denounce his classlessness? He is desperate to save his "legacy." Since he ruled with a phone and a pen, his actions get overturned with a phone and a pen. Since he used Executive Agreements rather than treaties, they can be overturned by executive actions. He is scared to death that most of his major accomplishments will be gone in an instant. And he is probably right.
 
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WVPATX said:
He is going to get involved. When he does, will you denounce his classlessness? He is desperate to save his "legacy." Since he ruled with a phone and a pen, his actions get overturned with a phone and a pen. Since he used Executive Agreements rather than treaties, they can be overturned by executive actions. He is scared to death that most of his major accomplishments will be gone in an instant. And he is probably right.
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The ACA was no EO.
 
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The ACA was no EO.
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True, but it will be overturned by legislation in a New York second. I posted yesterday that Dems are willing to work on new legislation.

But, Iran deal, no treaty. Paris climate deal, no treaty. DACA, Executive Order. Amnesty and work permits, Executive Order. EPA rules, gone almost as quickly as Obamacare. I could go on and on.
 
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True, but it will be overturned by legislation in a New York second. I posted yesterday that Dems are willing to work on new legislation.

But, Iran deal, no treaty. Paris climate deal, no treaty. DACA, Executive Order. Amnesty and work permits, Executive Order. EPA rules, gone almost as quickly as Obamacare. I could go on and on.
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A lot of wishful thinking in there.
 
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moe said:
A lot of wishful thinking in there.
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That's true. It is wishful thinking. But I strongly suspect most of it will happen. I like Trump's appointees and Trump himself has stated his opposition to many of Obama's EO's and lack of treaties.
 
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That's true. It is wishful thinking. But I strongly suspect most of it will happen. I like Trump's appointees and Trump himself has stated his opposition to many of Obama's EO's and lack of treaties.
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Your first two things....we're not the only country in the Iran deal...second, he's backtracked on bailing from the Paris climate agreement. His stances on various important issues change daily so who knows what he'll do. His head is surely spinning as he figures out what he can/should do and what can he get by with.
 
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Your first two things....we're not the only country in the Iran deal...second, he's backtracked on bailing from the Paris climate agreement. His stances on various important issues change daily so who knows what he'll do. His head is surely spinning as he figures out what he can/should do and what can he get by with.
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I don't care about other countries involved in the Iran deal. Iran has already violated the deal with no repercussions. Iran has spent billions on arms from Russia. Iran now has billions that we gave them and are expanding their support for terrorism throughout the region.

My guess is that Trump is going to wait until Iran further violates the agreement. Then he is going to tell our allies, the sanctions are back on again. They can choose to trade with Iran or the U.S., their choice. They can choose to stay in the deal with Iran or oppose the U.S. and risk other reprisals, militarily or otherwise. We carry a very, very big stick.

The Paris Climate deal is dead, Imo. Trump is going to exploit all of our natural resources. The EPA is going to be turned on its head as many regulations will be overturned. Keystone approved. Dakota pipeline moved forward. Federal lands opened to exploration. Many, many jobs created. Mines will be reopened. Clean coal technologies will receive lots of federal funding research.

Amnesty overturned. Not sure about DACA. Trump will change it to deport felons, but not sure what other changes to expect.

For insight, look at his appointments for Energy, DOJ, EPA, Etc. All very much like minded with respect to my comments above.
 
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moe said:
Your first two things....we're not the only country in the Iran deal...second, he's backtracked on bailing from the Paris climate agreement. His stances on various important issues change daily so who knows what he'll do. His head is surely spinning as he figures out what he can/should do and what can he get by with.
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Link?
 
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bornaneer said:
Nowhere in your linked info does it say his stances on various important issues change daily
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lol That would be my comment for which there is no link but I certainly believe it to be true and it's been written about to some degree but do your own research on that one. You certainly need some hand holding in these threads.
 
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moe said:
Nope, what are you trying to say?
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The nonsense of constantly asking for links on a message board when most of what is posted is conjecture based on ideology. We all can dig up crap to support that conjecture. I'm as dubious of your links as you are of mine.
 
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bornaneer said:
The nonsense of constantly asking for links on a message board when most of what is posted is conjecture based on ideology. We all can dig up crap to support that conjecture. I'm as dubious of your links as you are of mine.
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Some like to present their opinions as fact and that's one way to remind them which is which or it could be I'm simply wondering where they got some arcane info. I appreciate your policing of the board though, stay vigilant.
 
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WVPATX said:
Bush had many, many, many opportunities to bash Obama. He decided the President was elected and deserves the opportunity to run the country without being attacked by a former President. George H.W. Bush did the same with Clinton.

That is called class.

Obama, on the other hand, has already said he will essentially counter Trump on a daily basis. That is called lack of class.
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Mr Obama will be the POTUS for the next 34 days -- in that capacity he is still the decision maker, whether good or bad. Mr Trump will then become POTOS and have up to 8 years in that capacity. Starting Jan 20th 2017 Mr Trump will be in charge.
 
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moe said:
lol That would be my comment for which there is no link but I certainly believe it to be true and it's been written about to some degree but do your own research on that one. You certainly need some hand holding in these threads.
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Funny how you always want people to give you a link when you are too stupid to know the facts but when you are making the claims everyone else should do their own research. Seems lazy.
 
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TarHeelEer said:
I swear Bud changed his moniker, and phased it in while phasing the old one out.
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Do you think Bru could be the one who left and Bud assumed his moniker? This one has assumed the traits of Bud for sure. I have asked him the question and got no answer. I have asked why Bru he became an instant ******* when the other Bud left. The old Bru was with just a bit of humanity, this one, like Bud, is a revolving *******. Every way he is turned, he is an *******. Goes out of his way to be such and wears it as a badge of honor. Really, where did the old Bru go?
 
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WVUBRU said:
Maybe your other whacko buddy atlnutjob
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WVUBRU are you an accomplished & qualified professional expert name caller or are you simply practicing your name calling to see how much of an accomplished & qualified professional expert you can become at it?
 
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atlkvb said:
WVUBRU are you an accomplished & qualified professional expert name caller or are you simply practicing your name calling to see how much of an accomplished & qualified professional expert you can become at it?
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I am simply a wise person that makes fools like you feel small to the point you obsess over me like those other fools posting before you. So join the club as a member of the whackos that are not worth having a serious conversation with.
 
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