Honest question for the lefties

DvlDog4WVU

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At what level of criminality are you all willing to accept from the Clinton's before you stop defending and supporting them? That's including having Trump as the opposing candidate. What would they have to do before you say, "I just can't vote for her now"?

Going through these Wikileaks emails, it pretty much lays out corruption and pay for play on scale I've never read about. I'm just curious where you draw the line and decide it's time for accountability?
 

WVUCOOPER

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At what level of criminality are you all willing to accept from the Clinton's before you stop defending and supporting them? That's including having Trump as the opposing candidate. What would they have to do before you say, "I just can't vote for her now"?

Going through these Wikileaks emails, it pretty much lays out corruption and pay for play on scale I've never read about. I'm just curious where you draw the line and decide it's time for accountability?
I'm not a lefty, but I'll bite. The day the GOP's leader isn't a Russian cuckold with the worst economic plan that I can remember....so basically 11/9/2016.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I'm not a lefty, but I'll bite. The day the GOP's leader isn't a Russian cuckold with the worst economic plan that I can remember....so basically 11/9/2016.
That's not what I asked. I asked what level of criminality and corruption are you willing to accept in order for Trump to not be elected.
 

roadtrasheer

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I'm not a lefty, but I'll bite. The day the GOP's leader isn't a Russian cuckold with the worst economic plan that I can remember....so basically 11/9/2016.
Not defending trump at all , he will be closely watched & all things will be transparent,not because of him but because nobody will cover for him, hillary on the other hand will be direct opposite of transparent & everyone with a D beside the name will cover for her ....her own circle dont trust each other....& that scares me more than anything trump has said ....
 

WVUCOOPER

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That's not what I asked. I asked what level of criminality and corruption are you willing to accept in order for Trump to not be elected.
Like on a scale from 1 - 10? 9.26 Apologies if my answers don't seem sincere, but I just don't see people buying access to a politician to be that big of a deal. I mean, does it surprise you? I bet Peter Thiel would have great access to a Trump Administration (lmao).

Long story short, if she rapes my mother or has my mother raped, I'd be willing to accept Trump being elected.
 

Mntneer

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I'm not a lefty, but I'll bite. The day the GOP's leader isn't a Russian cuckold with the worst economic plan that I can remember....so basically 11/9/2016.

There's got to be a point at which even you will say, "Ok, I'm just not voting, or I'm writing in mule's name"
 

WVUCOOPER

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There's got to be a point at which even you will say, "Ok, I'm just not voting, or I'm writing in mule's name"
Answered above. BTW - I'm most likely not voting for her, just rooting for her to win. It's a wasted vote in WV anyway.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Like on a scale from 1 - 10? 9.26 Apologies if my answers don't seem sincere, but I just don't see people buying access to a politician to be that big of a deal. I mean, does it surprise you? I bet Peter Thiel would have great access to a Trump Administration (lmao).

Long story short, if she rapes my mother or has my mother raped, I'd be willing to accept Trump being elected.
So, rape is your limit?

Buying access is one thing. Bribery is another. Honestly, I'm not sure where the line is drawn. I'm not ok with any politician doing it personally. I'm also not voting for either of the two candidates, so it doesn't really matter to me.

A couple of the email things are really standing out to me right now as worthy of investigation:

1. Irish Cell Phone mogul
2. Haiti stuff
3. Cheryl Mills stating in an email related to Clinton foundation "Remember, anything sent to the state.gov email address is accessible, send it to the other email". I find this one significant because it demonstrates a willingness to A. Sidestep FOIA, B. Hide the pay for play which resulted in Classified information being sent to an unsecure server, so there was intent. This was deliberately done to hide the Pay for Play.
4. The lead investigator from the FBI's wife being paid over a half a million dollars in a "campaign donation" by Terry McAuliffe's PAC. This one is reallllllllly concerning.
5. Bill's receiving exorbitant "contributions" from various entities, which ironically ended up in those entities receiving contract awards, favorable decisions, etc.
 

Airport

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At what level of criminality are you all willing to accept from the Clinton's before you stop defending and supporting them? That's including having Trump as the opposing candidate. What would they have to do before you say, "I just can't vote for her now"?

Going through these Wikileaks emails, it pretty much lays out corruption and pay for play on scale I've never read about. I'm just curious where you draw the line and decide it's time for accountability?

The level of corruption directly as a result of the Obama Presidency has now reach the Presidency, FBI,Justice, IRS, State Dept and to a lesser extent the VA. Somewhere, Richard Nixon is mumbling to himself, what did I do that comes to a tenth of what these Liberals have done?
 

Airport

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So, rape is your limit?

Buying access is one thing. Bribery is another. Honestly, I'm not sure where the line is drawn. I'm not ok with any politician doing it personally. I'm also not voting for either of the two candidates, so it doesn't really matter to me.

A couple of the email things are really standing out to me right now as worthy of investigation:

1. Irish Cell Phone mogul
2. Haiti stuff
3. Cheryl Mills stating in an email related to Clinton foundation "Remember, anything sent to the state.gov email address is accessible, send it to the other email". I find this one significant because it demonstrates a willingness to A. Sidestep FOIA, B. Hide the pay for play which resulted in Classified information being sent to an unsecure server, so there was intent. This was deliberately done to hide the Pay for Play.
4. The lead investigator from the FBI's wife being paid over a half a million dollars in a "campaign donation" by Terry McAuliffe's PAC. This one is reallllllllly concerning.
5. Bill's receiving exorbitant "contributions" from various entities, which ironically ended up in those entities receiving contract awards, favorable decisions, etc.

I have to put up with McAulliffe since I live in Va. You can see the level of corruption increase here in Va as it has turned more democrat. Not a coincidence.
 

COOL MAN

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C'mon DD, haven't you been around here long enough to know that nothing matters on ***** boards when its "my" candidate being accused......it only matters when "your" candidate is getting the accusations.
 

mule_eer

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There's got to be a point at which even you will say, "Ok, I'm just not voting, or I'm writing in mule's name"
As president my number one concern will be protecting coop's mother's virtue. If I have to provide secret service protection for her, so be it. That woman is a saint and must be protected as a national treasure.
 

PriddyBoy

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As president my number one concern will be protecting coop's mother's virtue. If I have to provide secret service protection for her, so be it. That woman is a saint and must be protected as a national treasure.
Wish we could say the same for his sister. :)
 

DvlDog4WVU

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As president my number one concern will be protecting coop's mother's virtue. If I have to provide secret service protection for her, so be it. That woman is a saint and must be protected as a national treasure.
***** is that good huh?

I keed I keed. Sorry Coop, has nothing to do with you or your mother, I saw a chance for a line and I took it. Please don't be offended.
 

lenny4wvu

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Like on a scale from 1 - 10? 9.26 Apologies if my answers don't seem sincere, but I just don't see people buying access to a politician to be that big of a deal. I mean, does it surprise you? I bet Peter Thiel would have great access to a Trump Administration (lmao).

Long story short, if she rapes my mother or has my mother raped, I'd be willing to accept Trump being elected.
Put your mom in a room with Raper Bill and then we'll accept your vote..
 

lenny4wvu

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Like on a scale from 1 - 10? 9.26 Apologies if my answers don't seem sincere, but I just don't see people buying access to a politician to be that big of a deal. I mean, does it surprise you? I bet Peter Thiel would have great access to a Trump Administration (lmao).

Long story short, if she rapes my mother or has my mother raped, I'd be willing to accept Trump being elected.
Does Bill the Rapist have her address ?
 

TarHeelEer

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So, rape is your limit?

Buying access is one thing. Bribery is another. Honestly, I'm not sure where the line is drawn. I'm not ok with any politician doing it personally. I'm also not voting for either of the two candidates, so it doesn't really matter to me.

A couple of the email things are really standing out to me right now as worthy of investigation:

1. Irish Cell Phone mogul
2. Haiti stuff
3. Cheryl Mills stating in an email related to Clinton foundation "Remember, anything sent to the state.gov email address is accessible, send it to the other email". I find this one significant because it demonstrates a willingness to A. Sidestep FOIA, B. Hide the pay for play which resulted in Classified information being sent to an unsecure server, so there was intent. This was deliberately done to hide the Pay for Play.
4. The lead investigator from the FBI's wife being paid over a half a million dollars in a "campaign donation" by Terry McAuliffe's PAC. This one is reallllllllly concerning.
5. Bill's receiving exorbitant "contributions" from various entities, which ironically ended up in those entities receiving contract awards, favorable decisions, etc.

Add the Russian plutonium deal. Speaking of in bed with the Russians.
 

mneilmont

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I'm not a lefty, but I'll bite. The day the GOP's leader isn't a Russian cuckold with the worst economic plan that I can remember....so basically 11/9/2016.
Do you offer any proof at all of the Russia connection? What exactly is so terrible about the economic plan? He is the only one who has offered some detail of his plan. What is your economics background? Or is this just another of your claims that you don't have balls to back up with a little detail of your objection. I understand that you have no requirement to support any of your theory.
 

mneilmont

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Like on a scale from 1 - 10? 9.26 Apologies if my answers don't seem sincere, but I just don't see people buying access to a politician to be that big of a deal. I mean, does it surprise you? I bet Peter Thiel would have great access to a Trump Administration (lmao).

Long story short, if she rapes my mother or has my mother raped, I'd be willing to accept Trump being elected.
Where is your mother if you are sincerely looking for a sex partner for her. Pimping for your makes you even more despicable than I had imagined.
 

jpoppa

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I'm not a lefty, but I'll bite. The day the GOP's leader isn't a Russian cuckold with the worst economic plan that I can remember....so basically 11/9/2016.
I would rather our leaders have a relationship with Russia than cozy up and juggle Iran's balls constantly
 

mneilmont

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The level of corruption directly as a result of the Obama Presidency has now reach the Presidency, FBI,Justice, IRS, State Dept and to a lesser extent the VA. Somewhere, Richard Nixon is mumbling to himself, what did I do that comes to a tenth of what these Liberals have done?
And there are those who do not see the need for a change in direction in DC that Trump offers. The current administration has totally removed from constitutional directions. Every agency is for personal use and not run for intended purpose. FBI has come a long way from what JEdgar built. One of the Kennedys said too much power concentrated in the director. Congress is required to take oversight roll. Thanks to the Clan, we have come a long way.
 

WVUBRU

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This thread doesn't have anything related to me and for the most part, it is whipping the same dead horse over and over by the same people. I'm not interested in your infatuation. I've given my opinion on the subject of her emails and her qualification to be president and don't wish to repeat myself on stupid "serious question for the lefties" crap.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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This thread doesn't have anything related to me and for the most part, it is whipping the same dead horse over and over by the same people. I'm not interested in your infatuation. I've given my opinion on the subject of her emails and her qualification to be president and don't wish to repeat myself on stupid "serious question for the lefties" crap.
It said "honest" question first of all. And no, you've not given your opinion on what level of information coming out currently would cross the line for you.

The WaPo, NYT, and even MSNBC are piling on to the Pay for Play stuff. I'm curious, when is enough? Appreciate you responding though.
 
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bamaEER

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At what level of criminality are you all willing to accept from the Clinton's before you stop defending and supporting them? That's including having Trump as the opposing candidate. What would they have to do before you say, "I just can't vote for her now"?

Going through these Wikileaks emails, it pretty much lays out corruption and pay for play on scale I've never read about. I'm just curious where you draw the line and decide it's time for accountability?
A conviction. And if that happens, I'll write Kasich in.
 

D. Denzil Finney

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At what level of criminality are you all willing to accept from the Clinton's before you stop defending and supporting them? That's including having Trump as the opposing candidate. What would they have to do before you say, "I just can't vote for her now"?

Going through these Wikileaks emails, it pretty much lays out corruption and pay for play on scale I've never read about. I'm just curious where you draw the line and decide it's time for accountability?

I'm have been a lifeong registered Democrat, however , only two times in the last 50 years did I vote the Democratic ticket; Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton. I will not vote for Hillary nor will I vote for Donald Trump. Neither of them to my thinking and beliefs measure up as Presidential material.
 

PriddyBoy

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I'm have been a lifeong registered Democrat, however , only two times in the last 50 years did I vote the Democratic ticket; Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton. I will not vote for Hillary nor will I vote for Donald Trump. Neither of them to my thinking and beliefs measure up as Presidential material.
Hillary appreciates your non-VOTE.
 

eerdoc

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The level of corruption directly as a result of the Obama Presidency has now reach the Presidency, FBI,Justice, IRS, State Dept and to a lesser extent the VA. Somewhere, Richard Nixon is mumbling to himself, what did I do that comes to a tenth of what these Liberals have done?
You got it!
 

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At what level of criminality are you all willing to accept from the Clinton's before you stop defending and supporting them? That's including having Trump as the opposing candidate. What would they have to do before you say, "I just can't vote for her now"?

Going through these Wikileaks emails, it pretty much lays out corruption and pay for play on scale I've never read about. I'm just curious where you draw the line and decide it's time for accountability?

If everything negative people say about Hillary is true then Trump is still much worse. I've voted 3rd party for POTUS more in my life than I have Democrat so I'm not a hard core lefty. (I've never voted Republican for POTUS but I'm hoping I can do so at some point before I die.) But Trump is simply a narcissist and a complete blowhard. "We're going to have great trade deals." "Nobody respects women more than me." "Trust me, we're gonna destroy ISIS."

There is just nothing there. His campaigning is nothing but BS and if it was nothing but BS but you got the impression that he had some substance behind it when it came to governing but was just using the BS to get elected then maybe you could ignore the BS campaigning. But I don't get that impression at all.

I didn't think this when he was getting the GOP nomination. I assumed he was saying way out there stuff to get the nomination but that he was a more serious and well rounded person behind all that and that it would become apparent during the general campaign. But instead what became apparent in the general campaign is that he's just a narcissist with no curiosity about anything other than how to enhance himself.
 

op2

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^^^You typed this^^^

Oh, and you didn't answer the question.

I implicitly answered it. Now matter how bad Hillary is or could be, Trump is worse. Whatever her other faults may or may not be, Hillary is an adult. Trump is not.
 

Mntneer

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If everything negative people say about Hillary is true then Trump is still much worse. I've voted 3rd party for POTUS more in my life than I have Democrat so I'm not a hard core lefty. (I've never voted Republican for POTUS but I'm hoping I can do so at some point before I die.) But Trump is simply a narcissist and a complete blowhard. "We're going to have great trade deals." "Nobody respects women more than me." "Trust me, we're gonna destroy ISIS."

There is just nothing there. His campaigning is nothing but BS and if it was nothing but BS but you got the impression that he had some substance behind it when it came to governing but was just using the BS to get elected then maybe you could ignore the BS campaigning. But I don't get that impression at all.

I didn't think this when he was getting the GOP nomination. I assumed he was saying way out there stuff to get the nomination but that he was a more serious and well rounded person behind all that and that it would become apparent during the general campaign. But instead what became apparent in the general campaign is that he's just a narcissist with no curiosity about anything other than how to enhance himself.

How is Trump much worse?
 

dave

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By all appearances he's a narcissist that simply cares nothing for anything or anyone other than himself.
That is just an opinion. liberals always hate peoole who disagree with them.
 

Mntneer

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By all appearances he's a narcissist that simply cares nothing for anything or anyone other than himself.

Okay, based on his words, I will give you that he may be a narcissist. How is that worse than what Hillary has done?