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PriddyBoy

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Mntneer said:
Okay, based on his words, I will give you that he may be a narcissist. How is that worse than what Hillary has done?
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You must have missed the memo. Billionaires are supposed to have low self esteem and stare at their shoes most of the time.
 
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Mntneer said:
Okay, based on his words, I will give you that he may be a narcissist. How is that worse than what Hillary has done?
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Hillary is a typical politician except an extra gear of sleaziness to get what she wants. But what she wants is ballpark decent, whether you agree with every specific policy of hers or not. I think Hillary's policies would be like Obama except a little less left. You can dislike the ordinary left (or the ordinary right) and while I may prefer one to the other depending on the issue, I don't think either is terrible.

Trump OTOH isn't ordinary left or ordinary right or ordinary anything. He's a complete wildcard and one that gives no indication of caring about anything other than himself. If he got elected it wouldn't surprise me if he tried to deport people he didn't like or arrested Hillary or anything. He has no scruples and no respect for any of our institutions. He has no respect for anything other than his immediate desires.

The notion of giving such a person more political power than anyone in the country is repulsive to me. For that matter, the notion of associating with such a person is unappealing to me. He is giant narcissistic BSer that will say anything in one moment to get what he wants in the next. Him for POTUS? No thanks.
 
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Op2 said:
By all appearances he's a narcissist that simply cares nothing for anything or anyone other than himself.
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dave said:
That is just an opinion. liberals always hate peoole who disagree with them.
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In a time of war, when his nation needed him, when other men were answering the call, Donald J.Trump chose "unfit for duty" over "duty to country". That's not "an opinion". That's a FACT.
 
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PriddyBoy

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WVMade said:
In a time of war, when his nation needed him, when other men were answering the call, Donald J.Trump chose "unfit for duty" over "duty to country". That's not "an opinion". That's a FACT.
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While you were changing spark plugs for the "Motor Pool" in "Frankfort." Thanks, "Hero."
 
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WVMade said:
In a time of war, when his nation needed him, when other men were answering the call, Donald J.Trump chose "unfit for duty" over "duty to country". That's not "an opinion". That's a FACT.
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He was physically unfit dolt. How did he choose that?
 
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WVMade

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dave said:
He was physically unfit dolt. How did he choose that?
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mneilmont

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Op2 said:
Hillary is a typical politician except an extra gear of sleaziness to get what she wants. But what she wants is ballpark decent, whether you agree with every specific policy of hers or not. I think Hillary's policies would be like Obama except a little less left. You can dislike the ordinary left (or the ordinary right) and while I may prefer one to the other depending on the issue, I don't think either is terrible.

Trump OTOH isn't ordinary left or ordinary right or ordinary anything. He's a complete wildcard and one that gives no indication of caring about anything other than himself. If he got elected it wouldn't surprise me if he tried to deport people he didn't like or arrested Hillary or anything. He has no scruples and no respect for any of our institutions. He has no respect for anything other than his immediate desires.

The notion of giving such a person more political power than anyone in the country is repulsive to me. For that matter, the notion of associating with such a person is unappealing to me. He is giant narcissistic BSer that will say anything in one moment to get what he wants in the next. Him for POTUS? No thanks.
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Certainly appears to care a good bit about his country. On the other hand, Hillary's only concern now and in the past is about her need for power.
 
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mneilmont

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WVMade said:
In a time of war, when his nation needed him, when other men were answering the call, Donald J.Trump chose "unfit for duty" over "duty to country". That's not "an opinion". That's a FACT.
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How is your service superior to his? What are your claims to fame. What medals did you receive on the battle ground?
 
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PriddyBoy said:
You could let your hero defend his/herself.
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It doesn't matter what anyone did in the service as long as they faithfully executed their duties. I'm reminded of a time when Kennedy toured the NASA facility and asked the guy sweeping the floor what his job was. He responded by saying "to put a man on the moon".
 
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mneilmont

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At the hottest part of the War, Summer,1968, Trump was classified 1-A. There was a lottery draw to determine the draftees. The earlier numbers received an invitation and the larger numbers received a bye. They did not issue a call for a class, but the lottery number drawn. Later 2-s student and subject deferment, 1-y eligible for draft only in national emergency, and 4-f unfit to serve.

How can you be so damned stupid? Look at the rules in force at the time. We did not select our own classification, but it was assigned after a military conducted physical exam. Why are you so insistent and so wrong regarding the Trump military classification? He received 4-f when he was so close to age 26, and they were not drafting men that old normally.
 
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It doesn't matter what anyone did in the service as long as they faithfully executed their duties. I'm reminded of a time when Kennedy toured the NASA facility and asked the guy sweeping the floor what his job was. He responded by saying "to put a man on the moon".
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I had an uncle who wanted to serve in Viet Nam and volunteered regardless of the draft. He was fit and a good athlete. He was devastated that he couldn't fight because of flat feet. We all could cite examples of 4Fs and broom pushers all day and it wouldn't save one Iraqi life being lost because of US politics and this cussed election.
 
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mneilmont

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countryroads89 said:
It doesn't matter what anyone did in the service as long as they faithfully executed their duties. I'm reminded of a time when Kennedy toured the NASA facility and asked the guy sweeping the floor what his job was. He responded by saying "to put a man on the moon".
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And Mr Trump's duties were to follow orders given him. He obviously complied.
 
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Mntneer

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PriddyBoy said:
I had an uncle who wanted to serve in Viet Nam and volunteered regardless of the draft. He was fit and a good athlete. He was devastated that he couldn't fight because of flat feet. We all could cite examples of 4Fs and broom pushers all day and it wouldn't save one Iraqi life being lost because of US politics and this cussed election.
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My grandfather didn't disclose his asthma from the Army when he joined during WWII. He had a bad attack while in Florida in training (back before many common treatments were available and a bad attack could mean death), to the point where they found him wandering, confused, around the base. They discharged him and it broke his heart.
 
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