Getting no respect from ESPN
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Here's the problem with that.
Notre Dame gets preseasoned ranked top 20 or 10 every year and people act so surprised that they lose.
Texas beat that annually overrated ND team, barely. Texas went from not ranked all the way into the top 10.
Mississippi St was ranked this past week with a loosing record of 1-2.
There is SEC bias and there has always been ND bias, why? because ESPN will pust anything and everything SEC ( they are invested heavily in that narrative $$$$ ) and NBC pushes everything Notre Dame ( they are invested heavily in that narrative $$$$ )
The ranking system is flawed and has been forever. I think all preseason polls should be banned until after the first 2 games because they are bias for the chief reason that you can look like **** and lose and still be ranked if you start out high enough. Thats bias and manipulation of the narrative on who gets discussed and show cased or positioned for good or lesser bowls and playoffs later in the year.
Yes..............the ranking system is flawed. It will be flawed the entire football season. The problem involves $$$$$ and is not limited to the seasons first three games. It's hard to Duke ............. Notre Dame from the Top 25.
We beat no one. Sure the ranking system is flawed but the premise doesn't change if we were unranked or preseason top 5. We have to beat quality teams, we haven't so far. BYU might be a 6-6 type of bowl team, Mizzou may not win a conference game.
They are just trying to position themselves to get Notre Dame back in the conversation. [laughing]
But, in all honesty, Clemson will have at least 1 loss. FSU will lose one MORE time. Louisville will lose at least ONE game. The only team I see that could legitimately go undefeated is Stanford.
So, the playoff teams will most likely have 3 of them with at least 1 loss. Now, if all of them have at least 1 loss, why can't teams like Baylor or WVU be in the conversation IF by week 8 they are still undefeated? Not likely to happen, but it's too early to say "no shot". But....it's ESPN....also known as "The Titanic".
I was thinking we might be ranked after this week, I guess not?
No great teams but two quality opponents.
No great teams but two quality opponents.
OK, let's put it this way.
Give any team this schedule over its last 9 games:
Texas Tech W
Texas W (by 18)
@Kansas W (by 49)
Iowa State W (by 24)
@Kansas State L (by 1, thought by many to be Coach Snyder's finale)
@* Arizona State W ('neutral' site in the opponent's city)
Missouri W (by 15)
Youngstown State W
(N) BYU W
That is 8-1, one play from 9-0...
Loser by 18 to WVU Texas was anointed for the playoffs after having beaten now 1-3 Notre Dame.
Not one single AP vote for WVU last week.
Arizona State now getting more votes than WVU in both polls. Finished 6-7 last year. Could not beat WVU in Phoenix.
Many WVU fans have learned to believe that the Mountaineers deserve routine disrespect, disparate treatment and disparagement.
Don't git above yer raisin', yokels!
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What does last year have to do with this year? We may or may not deserve to be ranked, but it doesn't matter we have to beat OU, BU, Texas, and TCU to make the playoff. If we're not in the playoff who really cares what # the AP decides to put next to our name? 1-4 are all that matter.
I think last year means a lot to the pollsters when it comes to Arizona State.....cause we return our weapons on offense (as ASU did), and their defense is worse than 75% of all teams out there. So.....why do they get the nod over WVU in the polls????
I'm fine with it...makes the boys hungry to get there...staying there is the challenge. Bring on KSt!
Tell them to go blow Notre Dame as they have every pre season rankings. There knowledge is for ****.
Which of these teams:
Alabama
Ohio St
Louisville
Michigan
Clemson
Houston
Stanford
Wisconsin
Texas A&M
Washington
Tennessee
FSU
Baylor
Miami
Nebraska
Ole Miss
MSU
Utah
SDSU
Arkansas
TCU
Texas
Florida
Boise
Georgia
would NOT be ranked at all with a 26-11 win over Missouri (and Mizzou didn't score a td until about a minute to go against 3rd stringers) and YSU and BYU?
Ole Miss has TWO losses and Georgia barely escaped Missouri after WVU dominated them.
The polls are a total crock.
Alabama
Ohio St
Louisville
Michigan
Clemson
Houston
Stanford
Wisconsin
Texas A&M
Washington
Tennessee
FSU
Baylor
Miami
Nebraska
Ole Miss
MSU
Utah
SDSU
Arkansas
TCU
Texas
Florida
Boise
Georgia
would NOT be ranked at all with a 26-11 win over Missouri (and Mizzou didn't score a td until about a minute to go against 3rd stringers) and YSU and BYU?
Ole Miss has TWO losses and Georgia barely escaped Missouri after WVU dominated them.
The polls are a total crock.
B.S.
Every other school is getting noticed. Being talked about. Having highlights shown. Being seen BY RECRUITS that can change future fortunes.
WVU being disrespected and people talking about the FACT is not "crying"--its discussing a real problem--the "psychological disadvantage" OU's president brought up.
Other schools are LOSING and have no better resume than WVU at this point-but are ranked and will remain ranked.
Its not good--its bad for WVU. WVU is one of a very few programs that must win half the season or more to be ranked.
The polls are extremely biased in favor of certain schools and conferences and this will determine who is in major bowls, playoffs, who gets the top recruits etc.
Every other school is getting noticed. Being talked about. Having highlights shown. Being seen BY RECRUITS that can change future fortunes.
WVU being disrespected and people talking about the FACT is not "crying"--its discussing a real problem--the "psychological disadvantage" OU's president brought up.
Other schools are LOSING and have no better resume than WVU at this point-but are ranked and will remain ranked.
Its not good--its bad for WVU. WVU is one of a very few programs that must win half the season or more to be ranked.
The polls are extremely biased in favor of certain schools and conferences and this will determine who is in major bowls, playoffs, who gets the top recruits etc.
You want respect Keep winning and stop whining. AP voters don't have time to sit around watching every Division 1 team play every Saturday.
Because literally maybe 12 people outside of the WVU and ASU fanbases realize the two teams met in a bowl game last year and we won at 2 AM
3-0 is not winning? SINCE WHEN IS 3-0 with TWO P5 caliber wins NOT winning?
Do some of you even think before posting?
Still waiting for someone to answer who in the top 25 WOULD NOT BE RANKED with WVUs exact results? WVU has played better than some of these schools and just as impressive opponents, but they will have to have half a season or more wins compared to some schools one or two just to be ranked? WHY????
Psychological Disadvantage--same reason 2-2 OU with losses to top two Ohio State and top six Houston ISN'T ranked, but somehow, Ole Miss still is? and in the top 20 to boot?
Wake UP.
Hey how bout some Xs and Os from you for once. Do you know anything about football or just satisfied being the local trouble making prick?
All those posts and only 31 likes. Odd.
...and the closet I've seen you get to X's and O's is the post where you just whined about somebody not writing about them.
Not my home board. Why would I get likes. I call it without bias and typically get the same 7 idiots like you all worked up. I just grew up a WVU fan as well. I follow two teams closely. WVU is my second. While you were chasing boys around the stands I was playing. You would be best served staying on the sidelines. I just troll you occasionally because you are obnoxious. Nothing personal.
As you've previously noted this isn't my 'home board' either..... ....and you've posted your little resume plenty of times anyway.
OK Buck...yes let's think before posting...right when you tell me how BYU is a Power 5 at this current juncture first. I'll wait ...glad you're awake.
most of the teams you listed would also be 3-0 if they played wvu's schedule to date. Most of the teams you listed have done more in recent history than wvu has so they are going to garner more respect. The majority of the AP voters probably haven't watched wvu play this year and only see the final score. The AP voters that did watch our game yesterday where probably asking why we where trying to hand this game to Byu in the 4th quarter. The only thing you can do is keep winning and things will work themselves out. The reputation of the big 12 at the moment is also not helping Wvu's cause either. Hypnotically if Pitt was 3-0 and beat Missouri, YSU, Byu by the exact same scores that we did and where whining about not being in the top 25 what would say?
It's simple. If WVU goes 12-0 the Mountaineers will be the Big 12 champ and will be in the Football Final Four.
Till then, enjoy each victory, even one like the BYU game with all the angst and frustration it created.
History tells us that there will be only one or two unbeaten teams after the regular season. If my alma mater is one of those two, then let's root for WVU to win its first national title in football history, although I still count the 1922 East-West Bowl as a national title game (it was the Rose Bowl before the name was changed to the Rose Bowl). WVU was undefeated that year, too.
Meanwhile, let's concentrate on not letting that crafty Bill Snyder beat us again, and get our first victory over Kansas State since 1930.
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N euter Kansas State
T rample Texas Tech
A nnihilate TCU
I mpale Oklahoma State
N ail Kansas
E radicate Texas
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
Till then, enjoy each victory, even one like the BYU game with all the angst and frustration it created.
History tells us that there will be only one or two unbeaten teams after the regular season. If my alma mater is one of those two, then let's root for WVU to win its first national title in football history, although I still count the 1922 East-West Bowl as a national title game (it was the Rose Bowl before the name was changed to the Rose Bowl). WVU was undefeated that year, too.
Meanwhile, let's concentrate on not letting that crafty Bill Snyder beat us again, and get our first victory over Kansas State since 1930.
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N euter Kansas State
T rample Texas Tech
A nnihilate TCU
I mpale Oklahoma State
N ail Kansas
E radicate Texas
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
ALL of the power conferences have declared that BYU is considered a power 5 opponent in non conference play that's how. Google it if you don't believe me.
OK, let's put it this way.
Give any team this schedule over its last 9 games:
Texas Tech W
Texas W (by 18)
@Kansas W (by 49)
Iowa State W (by 24)
@Kansas State L (by 1, thought by many to be Coach Snyder's finale)
@* Arizona State W ('neutral' site in the opponent's city)
Missouri W (by 15)
Youngstown State W
(N) BYU W
That is 8-1, one play from 9-0...
Loser by 18 to WVU Texas was anointed for playoff contention after having beating now 1-3 Notre Dame.
Not one single AP vote last week for WVU.
It is OK for Clemson to beat Troy by 6...
Umm...so the preseason rankings every year - which play a large part in national perception and a team's chances to get its due - are based ENTIRELY on how many stars their recruits have? Are the recruiting rankings of the last 4-5 years averaged, with allowances for attrition, under-performance and overachievement? Oh...that would require looking at LAST year...and earlier years...and history...and pedigree...and media value....
Q. Why are there rankings before October?
A. To sell a bill of goods to the blueblood fans and give their schools a leg up on the undesired riffraff.
Look at Texas. That is all you need to know WVU beat them by 18 and has won 8 of 9. Texas required OT to beat a 1-3 team...lost to a 2-2 team. Anything else? Oh, they have tradition and a network.
But we are only looking at THIS season.
"Please, sir...may I have another?" WHACK!!! (Hapless, unworthy, self-loathing WVU fan)
..not talking about being 'in the conversation' as a 2016 power program or playoff contender... it is about WVU -- 2 points shy of an 8-game winning streak -- not getting a SINGLE AP vote last week in comparison to the teams that are or have been ranked OR are unranked but DID get a vote.
Meanwhile, Georgia edged Mizzou, Texas does nothing....and LOOKEE!