Two officers shot
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Knew it would happen. We have some bad people in the streets with guns, and some bad people with badges and guns. Bad mix.
I see now 3 Dallas Transit Officers have been shot....I mean of course, makes sense right? Bus running late people be angry....more guns will nip this problem right in the bud!
Correction 4...and 1 dead...
Correction 4...and 1 dead...
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It was destiny. Some cops have to die so guilt ridden liberal pansies can feel fair.
Dave...you would admit (I suspect or am surmising) that the current system and status quo simply isn't working? It's about time that sensible people on both sides put the politics aside and less people die.
10 law enforcement shot and 3 dead...all of them the ones who signed up to serve and protect the public.
The problem is so vast it's going to be hard to rectify. The tension is so high that kegs ignite like this.
What? You don't agree that there are bad people on both sides? Criminals aren't bad? There are no "bad" cops? Nothing "liberal" in that statement.
Yes. When our leaders side with criminals over public servants because they need votes there is a real problem and the biggest problem is that people elect those politicians who get good people murdered.
What part of ES&D do you not?
You act as if there is only "good" on one side, and "bad" on the other....
Its not an act moron. There are no good people on the side shooting cops.What part of ES&D do you not?
You act as if there is only "good" on one side, and "bad" on the other....
Nor is there a good side on the cop who shot the dude in Minnesota.....even the governor said so. Stopped him for a broken tail light. Didn't even know they still stopped you for that crap these days...Guess only black males.....
Well you can race bait and cheerlead for cop killers. The look suits your gnorant logic.
What's "gnorant", Dave? Don't go pissing the Danes off with unintended insults, they used to be Vikings.
One has surrendered and another is in custody as a person of interest. I haven't heard names or motives yet.
5 dead. There's purported video of one of the shooters on the USA Today website, It looks like he was using a bolt action hunting rifle and shooting in a random manner. The video is pretty grainy.
This is what happens when a liberal progressive admin. like Obama's coddle and protects criminals. It started with the lie in Ferguson. BLM are criminal thugs looking for an excuse to cause this sort of problem. Obama says if he had a son he would want him to be like Travon Martin, which had a criminal record. Obama coddling radical muslim terrorists that are killing innocent people everyday. Somebody better wake up and see this all political. Now Hillary the criminal wants to keep this crap going. Insane
Yeah, kind of like the black guy in Minnesota......oh, he wasn't killed by radical Muslims though......
Nobody really knows what happened with the guy in Minnesota. We only know one side of the story and nobody is suggesting that the cop be cut any slack if he was wrong. I think this calls for all the irrational dweebs on the internets to go crazy and make ridiculous illogical comments.
Dave, he can justify any action anywhere in the country because a white cop shot a black man in Minnesota.
Should this Mountaineer be shot because those gangesters lay in wait for the cops in Dallas? In theory, is there logic?
You have cops with families who applied for the job and they go to work and receive their assignments for the shift. Without provocation the outlaws start firing at the cops, who are just ordinary people , wanting to serve the public. That is not a bit complicated or provocative.
Ordinary people with jobs are assignated by gangsters, and Mountaineer justifies it because a white cop kills a black man they were attempting to arrest and he resisted. Incidents were 1200 to 1500 miles apart. But Mountaineer gives that as justification and even argues the point that that is his reasoning.
If we have people who can offer this as reason to kill cops, ordinary family persons, physically separated across the country, we have no chance in hell to salvage our Republic. Mountaineer is free to walk the streets and free to vote. And he is free to argue his logic. Pathetic representative of our free country.
Good god, you're a moron. Remember a few months ago when I told you several posters think you are a moron? Well, they are letting you know in this very thread.
I don't think anyone was justifying anyone getting shot. I'm curious if you could quote where that took place.
You could easily argue that the guy shot in Minnesota was just trying to live his life with his family as well though. His family was with him in the car when he was killed. That's not justification for someone or some group of people to start killing cops, and that's not my intent by bringing that up. My intent is that we should be able to have sympathy for both situations. I don't see those as conflicting points of view. What happened in Minnesota appears to have been a bad shooting based on what is currently known. The shootings in Dallas are also tragic. We need to be able to have both sides sit down and discuss solutions to this problem without becoming hyper sensitive. That seems to be the sticking point right now. People should not be characterized as anti-cop for questioning some shootings. Police should not have to worry about being sniper targets because someone got shot 1000 miles away.
Arrested? HE HAD A TAIL LIGHT OUT! Gee Whiz Neil. Get your blinders off, or your white hood and sheet....whatever it is that is blinding you from seeing the Minnesota situation.
The man was pulled over for a broken tail light. A MINOR traffic violation. He notified the cop that he had a LEGAL carry permit when reaching for his wallet. He got popped 4-5 times.....
Nowhere, I repeat NOWHERE, have I condoned the killing of a cop. I don't, nor didn't, see your sympathy for the family of the man in Minnesota for being shot by a cop. When will we see that sympathy?
I agree, but I'll add this. I want more information to decide whether what he did was criminal or not. I'm trying to concoct a scenario in my head where that cop wasn't more than a little trigger happy. I'll reserve my final judgement in case there's something that I'm not imagining, but it sure doesn't sound to me like the guy has the temperament to be a police officer.
I think, all speculation based on video, that the cop freaked and couldn't handle the thought that this man had a gun, whether legal CCW or not.
I think had it been me.... I'd still be alive.
I agree the MN incident looks like a cop that didn't know what he was doing and it went bad real fast. The LA incident looks (at this point) to be bad...as in the cops may have used excessive force.
Again we disagree. There is totally no justification for what happened in Dallas. You want to sympathize with assigns, it is a free country to this point. I am not familiar with Minn., but I rather doubt the officer engaged the deceased for no reason.
Can you give me a reason the assigns lay in wait for the officers? Or do you just think they were strolling and suddenly reacted to the video they saw of Minn? If that is justifiable, we had better quickly remove ever black and sympathizer because they are going to be justified to strike back for every act that they suffered since coming to shores of US.
We have a nation of laws. A long time in the past retaliation has been frowned upon and said perceived wrongs will be settled in a court of laws judged by peers.
I am not really adept at reading between the lines of what some posters offer. I do not think it is necessary to show that guns were suggested in retaliation. Nor do I think you are void of reasoning power to connect the dots.
I tend to agree with you on both counts. I also think, based on your postings in the past, that you are probably more aware of your responsibilities with respect to how to inform the officer that you are armed. Honestly, the driver should have led with that info before he made any move. I also don't think that should be a fatal error on his part.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought WV had gone to no permit required for concealed carry. I believe Kansas has done the same. The situation in Minnesota shows to me the importance of training, in the laws if nothing else, before granting a permit to carry.
The big problem I've learned is that most law enforcement don't know their state's own laws.
WV has, effective 1 July. Exactly. We have a lot of folks that don't exercise good, sound judgment that want to conceal carry. The training would force them to think about a lot of things ahead of time. Really bad legislation.
Maybe I should have been more clear. I have sympathy for the families of the deceased in both situations. I'm not sure how you read my entire posting and came to the conclusion that I had sympathy for assassins, especially since I explicitly stated that their actions were not justified.
Also, if you are unfamiliar with the Minnesota shooting, that's your own fault. Maybe you should familiarize yourself with it prior to commenting about it. I'll give you the abridged version though. Guy pulled over for a broken tail light. His girlfriend is in the passenger seat, and her 4-year old daughter is in the back seat. The cop asks for license and registration, and the guy mentions that he has a license to carry concealed, and he has a gun in the car. The cop shot the driver 4-5 times. They arrested the girlfriend and took her daughter into custody also - handful of hours. The driver died on the way to the hospital. The driver managed a school cafeteria, no criminal record.
Rog, I have heard three shots in the back. That was after the initial shot into the chest.
I have a hard time seeing the need for three in the back. That has got to be looked at as excessive force. Unless the law has changed, when subdued, the officer will cease using (excessive) force.
I agree with you 100% - if the picture you offer is what actually happened. I cannot see the cop, who has passed a barrage of psychological tests to get sworn in, is going to stop a vehicle for a broken lens and proceed to the driver and shoot him for no further exchange or action.
If the driver then proceeds to get under seat or glove box with his hand, I am going to draw my service revolver. If the driver continues and produces a weapon, it then becomes him or me, and I already am pointing at his head. I would not passingly consider giving him the first shot at that range.
Broken tail light buddy.....yep, lock those criminals up! So you do not believe there are "bad" cops at all? Or cops that are trigger happy?
You don't want cop to be "trigger happy". I don't want cop to hesitate when his life is placed in danger. I have been there. I hesitated taking a life. Before the year was out, I resigned. I was advised to find other profession if I could not pull the trigger. Returned to college.