Still have us at 7-5

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CU- tossup
NIU- WIN, yes I know they won today
La tech- Win
Mich- loss
Illini- win
Northwestern -win
Purdue-win
Michigan St.- toss up
Maryland- toss up
Wisconsin - loss
Iowa- win

If we win one of the toss ups 7-5
 

ssmill777

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CU- tossup
NIU- WIN, yes I know they won today
La tech- Win
Mich- loss
Illini- win
Northwestern -win
Purdue-win
Michigan St.- toss up
Maryland- toss up
Wisconsin - loss
Iowa- win

If we win one of the toss ups 7-5
I see 5-7 as best case scenario. 3-9 as worse case. Wins against La Tech, NIU, NW, and hopefully Purdue. Possible upset one of the following: Ill, Mich. St., Maryland. Injuries could make it worse. Someone overlooking us could make it better.
 

VictoryRed

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I believe we beat La Tech for sure. N. Illinois can bring it as history shows but I think we win. I will give the nod over Purdue. I think we take down Iowa too...like 9 to 6 type of game. We beat NW , The rest , dunno.
 
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CU- tossup
NIU- WIN, yes I know they won today
La tech- Win
Mich- loss
Illini- win
Northwestern -win
Purdue-win
Michigan St.- toss up
Maryland- toss up
Wisconsin - loss
Iowa- win

If we win one of the toss ups 7-5
I can see it playing out like this. Even getting to 6-6 and be bowl eligible would be a good start for the team.
 

BigRedTed

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I know 7-5 isn't the end goal but realistically I'd be pretty pleased with it in year 1. Especially after starting 0-1.
 

phoenix4nu

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CU- tossup
NIU- WIN, yes I know they won today
La tech- Win
Mich- loss
Illini- win
Northwestern -win
Purdue-win
Michigan St.- toss up
Maryland- toss up
Wisconsin - loss
Iowa- win

If we win one of the toss ups 7-5
Quarterback play and game management by coaches will need to improve for us to get to 7-5.
 

mwulf

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I don't see how Sims lasts the entire season running that much.
 
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I would not rate the CU game as a toss up. It is in Boulder and they have a much superior offense to ours. Their defense is indeed suspicious, but how good do they have to be to stop or slow down our anemic, turnover prone, offense? I see CU beating us by 17-21 points depending on how well our defense plays. TCU has a lousy defense, but CU's offense looks formidable even taking that into consideration.

I too think we beat N. Illinois, La Tech, Purdue, and NW. Illinois, Michigan State and Maryland are all winnable games and we will need to win two of those three to get our six wins. The key is going to be if we do indeed improve on offense as the season goes on.

Beating Iowa and Wisky are also possible. But if we turn it over like we did against Minnesota then they will win.

If we do improve on offense and cut down the turnovers I can see us going 6-6 or 7-5. But if the offense remains sketchy and turnover prone we are looking at 4-8 or 3-9
 

Scat_Back

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I had us at 7 wins as well and that hasn’t changed for me either. I think most will be cool with that but there’s a lot of children throwing knee jerk tantrums on this board after week one. Cooler heads will prevail.
 

BleedRed78

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I don't see how Sims lasts the entire season running that much.
Doesn't matter. Turns out he's not an NFL QB, which makes it less disastrous if we lose him to injury.

We should essential run him into the ground this year if that's our best path to winning. Harrberg can then come in if Sims goes down and essentially nothing changes in gameplay, nor a huge drop off really.
 

dinglefritz

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Doesn't matter. Turns out he's not an NFL QB, which makes it less disastrous if we lose him to injury.

We should essential run him into the ground this year if that's our best path to winning. Harrberg can then come in if Sims goes down and essentially nothing changes in gameplay, nor a huge drop off really.
There’s been lots of NFL QBs who struggled with interceptions as young QBs in college. He has an NFL arm. Didn’t Josh Allen throw 4 picks against us? The Gopher defense is actually pretty talented too.
 

SickOfPractice

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I'm gonna stick with my 6-6 hopeful guess, even though I was originally counting Minnesota as a win.

If we don't get to a bowl game I will be very disappointed.
 

Redscarlet

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I'm gonna stick with my 6-6 hopeful guess, even though I was originally counting Minnesota as a win.

If we don't get to a bowl game I will be very disappointed.
I don’t think you’ll the only hombre that will be very disappointed.. Winking
 

realHuskerDrew

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CU- tossup
NIU- WIN, yes I know they won today
La tech- Win
Mich- loss
Illini- win
Northwestern -win
Purdue-win
Michigan St.- toss up
Maryland- toss up
Wisconsin - loss
Iowa- win

If we win one of the toss ups 7-5
Wins v NIU, LT, NW, Pur, and maybe 1 other is what I feel right now

I’ll say 5 wins this season, possibly 6
 
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There’s been lots of NFL QBs who struggled with interceptions as young QBs in college. He has an NFL arm. Didn’t Josh Allen throw 4 picks against us? The Gopher defense is actually pretty talented too.
How does Sims have an NFL arm?. I had friends in high school who could throw a football with velocity and they didn't even play football.
An NFL arm, in my opinion..
1. Velocity
2. Accuracy
3. Ability to see the field and make progressions. In the pro game this has to be done at warp speed.
4. Timing.


Of these, Sims has only arm strength. A pro scout can find these at a dime a dozen. He's looking for the other factors.

Sims is rated as the number 25 pro prospect in the college game. That may sound ok but given the numbers, I doubt he'd be draftable. I realize the Matt Rhule comments regarding his pro prospectus but at this point put no stock into it.

One thing I didn't realize about Sims was the vast number of sacks he's taken in his career. Looks like what we saw Thursday night is a pretty good representation of what he's been and who he is.

The coaches job is to put him in position to be successful. Short passing game with little risk. Get him warmed up. I don't know, given our reciever situation it's going to be an uphill struggle. Guys like Kemp are not going to be making circus catches 50 yards down the field. Get him the ball quickly and then he can use his running skills.
 
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most our fans wouldn't know an NFL quarterback if their life depended on it
If Heinrich Haaberg was the QB who threw those three interceptions against Minnesota then I could understand saying give Rhule a chance to coach him up and let’s see if Haaberg can get better at reading defenses. Why? Because that would have been Haabergs first meaningful playing time since playing class C high school football in Nebraska.

There are so many fans on this board that have a naive optimism that Rhule and Satterfield are somehow going to teach Sims how to read a defense and scan the field in year 4 of college football mid season. It’s laughable to me
 

SLOHusker

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How does Sims have an NFL arm?. I had friends in high school who could throw a football with velocity and they didn't even play football.
An NFL arm, in my opinion..
1. Velocity
2. Accuracy
3. Ability to see the field and make progressions. In the pro game this has to be done at warp speed.
4. Timing.


Of these, Sims has only arm strength. A pro scout can find these at a dime a dozen. He's looking for the other factors.

Sims is rated as the number 25 pro prospect in the college game. That may sound ok but given the numbers, I doubt he'd be draftable. I realize the Matt Rhule comments regarding his pro prospectus but at this point put no stock into it.

One thing I didn't realize about Sims was the vast number of sacks he's taken in his career. Looks like what we saw Thursday night is a pretty good representation of what he's been and who he is.
My biggest concern with Sims is that he looks like a high school level QB in his 4th year. Can he improve much? The physical side is superior but the mental aspects like progressions and timing are not what I was hoping for. I'd honestly like to see Purdy and Haarberg even if they aren't as fast. If we can't throw it then line up in an I and run 90% of the time.
 

ssmill777

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I would not rate the CU game as a toss up. It is in Boulder and they have a much superior offense to ours. Their defense is indeed suspicious, but how good do they have to be to stop or slow down our anemic, turnover prone, offense? I see CU beating us by 17-21 points depending on how well our defense plays. TCU has a lousy defense, but CU's offense looks formidable even taking that into consideration.

I too think we beat N. Illinois, La Tech, Purdue, and NW. Illinois, Michigan State and Maryland are all winnable games and we will need to win two of those three to get our six wins. The key is going to be if we do indeed improve on offense as the season goes on.

Beating Iowa and Wisky are also possible. But if we turn it over like we did against Minnesota then they will win.

If we do improve on offense and cut down the turnovers I can see us going 6-6 or 7-5. But if the offense remains sketchy and turnover prone we are looking at 4-8 or 3-9
The offense was sketchy after spring ball, and it is still sketchy in the fall. If the coaches haven't figured it out yet, it will probably stay sketchy all season.
 

Sodakred

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I thought 8 wins with this weak schedule would be possible before the Minny game. But after watching Sims pass and Rhule do his Frost in-game coaching imitation, I don’t see even six wins.
 
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Huskers123456

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There’s been lots of NFL QBs who struggled with interceptions as young QBs in college. He has an NFL arm. Didn’t Josh Allen throw 4 picks against us? The Gopher defense is actually pretty talented too.
His arm looked more JV than NFL. Hopefully he looks better Saturday in Boulder.
 

king_kong_

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My biggest concern with Sims is that he looks like a high school level QB in his 4th year. Can he improve much? The physical side is superior but the mental aspects like progressions and timing are not what I was hoping for. I'd honestly like to see Purdy and Haarberg even if they aren't as fast. If we can't throw it then line up in an I and run 90% of the time.
Haarberg is faster according to off-season MPH testing
 

dinglefritz

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Haarberg is faster according to off-season MPH testing
Top end speed does not equal 10 yard or even 40 yard speed. It’s measured after a runner reaches full speed and doesn’t take in to account starting. Sims is quicker than Haarberg and supposedly has run sub 4.5 40s. Haarberg is fast but I haven’t seen anything that makes me think he has change of direction or starting stopping quickness.
 

king_kong_

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Top end speed does not equal 10 yard or even 40 yard speed. It’s measured after a runner reaches full speed and doesn’t take in to account starting. Sims is quicker than Haarberg and supposedly has run sub 4.5 40s. Haarberg is fast but I haven’t seen anything that makes me think he has change of direction or starting stopping quickness.
cool.

you'd disagree with anything I said.

I'm not interested.
 

king_kong_

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Cmon. You know mph testing doesn’t equate to 40 times.
if you think it takes more than 40 yards for a player to get up to full speed you cannot be helped

I know this - the (seemingly full of **** so take it with a grain of salt) coaching staff released test results 1 time this offseason. HH was the fastest per that result.
 

dinglefritz

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if you think it takes more than 40 yards for a player to get up to full speed you cannot be helped

I know this - the (seemingly full of **** so take it with a grain of salt) coaching staff released test results 1 time this offseason. HH was the fastest per that result.
if you think it takes more than 40 yards for a player to get up to full speed you cannot be helped

I know this - the (seemingly full of **** so take it with a grain of salt) coaching staff released test results 1 time this offseason. HH was the fastest per that result.
Mph testing is done after a runner reaches top speed. I said nothing about running further than 40 yards. IF I had I could see HH beating Sims over a longer distance. He’s a longer guy. It’s really splitting hairs though. What we don’t know is if HH would make better decisions and throw fewer INTs. THAT is WAY more important than a tenth of a second more or less of 40 time.
 

onechase

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We will win 4 games if we are lucky. Our coaching is not good at all. Very disappointed in Ruhle!!!
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Top end speed does not equal 10 yard or even 40 yard speed. It’s measured after a runner reaches full speed and doesn’t take in to account starting. Sims is quicker than Haarberg and supposedly has run sub 4.5 40s. Haarberg is fast but I haven’t seen anything that makes me think he has change of direction or starting stopping quickness.
I don't believe for a second Sims can run a sub 4.5 electronic 40.

I agree with the 10 second splits. Thats the true indicator of speed and explosiveness.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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if you think it takes more than 40 yards for a player to get up to full speed you cannot be helped

I know this - the (seemingly full of **** so take it with a grain of salt) coaching staff released test results 1 time this offseason. HH was the fastest per that result.
Top speed is at 60 meters PERIOD. At 60 meters is when deceleration begins.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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if you think it takes more than 40 yards for a player to get up to full speed you cannot be helped

I know this - the (seemingly full of **** so take it with a grain of salt) coaching staff released test results 1 time this offseason. HH was the fastest per that result.
You would be amazed at how fast Coleman, Lloyd, Turner would put Haarberg in the rear view mirror at 40 yards.
 

Crisker_rivals

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My biggest concern with Sims is that he looks like a high school level QB in his 4th year. Can he improve much? The physical side is superior but the mental aspects like progressions and timing are not what I was hoping for. I'd honestly like to see Purdy and Haarberg even if they aren't as fast. If we can't throw it then line up in an I and run 90% of the time.
You have answered your own question. He will not ever do progressions. It's all on one receiver or nothing with him. The coaches must know this and plan around it. Set him up for success rather than (INT) failure.