C'mon man. Us conspiracy theorist types are always just pissing in the wind!!
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OT-Hawaii wildfires
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It'll just keep happening until people have had enough. At this point I don't see people ever being fed up with being dicked down by tyrant billionaires with a title and some power. They seem to enjoy it.
This isn't the reality I was in ~20 years ago. Something about it has been wrong for a long time.
This isn't the reality I was in ~20 years ago. Something about it has been wrong for a long time.
yea dude, no billionaires were in running the show in 2003
remember when we found all those WMDs?
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That’s the old system. Some land is leasehold but much is fee simple. I’ve closed home loans there for about 15 yr and all were Fee Simple, not Leasehold. Just closed one about 3 weeks ago.
There are some taxes that apply if you sell and aren’t a a native but other than that it’s pretty open.
Mexico is leasehold on 100yr deals.
Oh gawd. It's happening just like I figured it would. Half the country is in the process of becoming wildfire and real estate experts. I won't be able to check out at the grocery store without some random guy talking about some conspiracy theory. And my brother-in-law will suddenly become an expert at fire behavior and vegetation management.
No idea what happened with the unburnt houses but would it really be that shocking if billionaires had houses that were built better than houses owned by middle-class or poor people?
No idea what happened with the unburnt houses but would it really be that shocking if billionaires had houses that were built better than houses owned by middle-class or poor people?
Yes because the “built better” homes in CA survived the fires
. Really? “BuiltBetter”. I’ll have to ask my insurance agent how that works on premiums.
There were homes in CA that survived the fires. They were built or modified according to new wildfire specs. Roof material is huge in these cases due to spotting.Yes because the “built better” homes in CA survived the fires
Better”. I’ll have to ask my insurance agent how that works on premiums.
2 seconds of scanning pictures shows random trees that are green in a landscape of black. Was that also a conspiracy theory? Did firefighters protect those trees?
Actually there definitely were chemical weapons but those were moved to Syria. I have a friend was a national guard officer and he said they had positive tests for CWs. Saddam was bluffing when he talked about having small nuclear weapons.
My company offers discounts for fire and hail resistant building materials. My shingles are reinforced with a fiberglass web.Yes because the “built better” homes in CA survived the fires
Better”. I’ll have to ask my insurance agent how that works on premiums.
OR - and hear me out here - it was all bs to feed the never-nourished and well-paying military industrial complex, something that's happened repeatedly in our history
IMO some of it was to get rid of the Al Aqsa Martyr Brigade training camps in northern Iraq. Saddam was paying suicide bombers to continually attack Israel. Colin Powell said it best when he told Bush, “If you break it (Iraq), you own it”. Taking out Saddam definitely was a favor for Iran and lives of Coptic Christians etal became much more perilous. The continued violations by Saddam of the no-fly zone was more than Bush would tolerate. Personally I probably would have just lobbed a couple dozen cruise missiles in to every single one of his palaces. “liberating” Iraq was fools gold.
it was also actual gold for many oligarchs who have been making similar choices for decades despite who's chosen by the people
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No wonder our commander in chief uses “build back better.”Yes because the “built better” homes in CA survived the fires
Better”. I’ll have to ask my insurance agent how that works on premiums.
He is the “President “ or resident as I say he is not the Commander in ChiefNo wonder our commander in chief uses “build back better.”
He argued that the populace wasn’t smart enough to know between a wildfire and a tsunami and would’ve therefore run to the mountains, which would’ve been the worst possible thing
This won't fit the narrative but I just read an article where they interviewed the owners of one of the houses that made it that is apparently going around social media. These people didn't know it but they fire-proofed their house. Switched to a metal roof. Removed any vegetation near the house because they were worried about termites. Left at least 3 feet of rock around the house.
But yeah, probably part of a broad conspiracy.
But yeah, probably part of a broad conspiracy.
If you have a decent insurance company, in a wildfire prone, area they will come out and inspect your home and give you recommendations, or often times requirements, to protect your home from fire. These include clearing vegetation, replacing combustible roofs, decks, etc. They also have their own wildfire protection teams that are activated when a fire is nearby. They go to the homes they insure and remove fuel and more importantly apply a product like Thermogel that will protect the house.
These companies are not cheap but as they say, you get what you pay for. Carriers like Chubb, PURE, and AIG take an active effort to protect both themselves and their insureds. There are always pictures and articles written after a large fire about these services and usually the comments are always "why doesn't my insurance do that" or "that's not fair". In the end, if you asked the people that lost their homes if they would have paid $1,000 more in homeowners premium they would always say yes but at the point of sale they have the attitude that it will never happen to them.
These companies are not cheap but as they say, you get what you pay for. Carriers like Chubb, PURE, and AIG take an active effort to protect both themselves and their insureds. There are always pictures and articles written after a large fire about these services and usually the comments are always "why doesn't my insurance do that" or "that's not fair". In the end, if you asked the people that lost their homes if they would have paid $1,000 more in homeowners premium they would always say yes but at the point of sale they have the attitude that it will never happen to them.
Financial gain. Every blogger and conspiracy podcaster needs material. Very few tragedies are off limits. Well, except if elementary school children were slaughtered like at Sandy Hook... oh wait!
Enjoy. You elect stupid and you get stupid. Reap those rewards. I'm lots of pissing and moaning will change things though.
And by "next door", that means within a 350 miles of the wildfire on one of the Hawaiian islands.
Did they need electricity to run pumps for water to put on the fire? Otherwise the power should have been cut and a dozer should have run up the road clearing pokes and lines. Clearly they didn’t think it would get that bad.
I think I read the hydrants ran dry due to power loss at the pump station(s?) at one point. Sounds to me like everyone involved was woefully trained and totally unprepared for a serious wildfire. Not sure how many ignition points there were but I'm shocked given the conditions that firefighters left the scene of the one I read about where there was a downed line. That one re-ignited and took off.
It was just a fluster cuck that I really don’t believe party affiliation had anything to do with. They were woefully unprepared and some of the blame lies with residents who didn’t use much common sense. Given how few ways out of there there were I would have gotten the hell out of there when I heard about the fire and wind direction.
That has to be infuriating because it’s something that you would have to drill to be proficient at.
Wish us luck!
They need to apply 1880s Nebraska technology to the problem. Namely, a windmill (or electric pump) that pumps water up into a water tower. That way a supply of water for firefighting is available when needed, and when water is desperately needed and the power goes out, gravity can do the work without an electric pump.
This does however violate the concept of water equality. Putting water in the tower tank might raise the price of water on Maui. When the tank is drained to fight a huge fire, the water is going to protect people who own homes and businesses. Not only does building and maintaining a tank for emergence water discriminate against people who don't own property, it could also potentially raise the price of water, which impacts those of lower economic circumstances more profoundly than middle class and above households.
Then you'd be wrong. Jesus Christ the word "equity" was used when talking about water FFS. WAKE THE F UP. Christ almighty some of you are either woefully ignorant or ignorant on purpose. No wonder our country is a ********.
I've never seen a windmill that can push water into a tower. That takes legit pressure. My first thought was a trash pump like rural FD's in some areas use. Not sure about the logistics of that though. I wonder what they had for wildfire rigs if they even had any. Most of these social media experts probably don't even know the difference between a ladder engine and a wildfire rig.
Chill. I’m as disgusted as you about DEI but local governing incompetence knows no boundaries. It’s easy to place blame in hindsight. Power companies block roads to try to clear poles and wire and get power up to the pump station and the result was people dying in their cars. IF the trucks weren’t there, could people have navigated the downed poles to get out of there? I haven’t seen evidence to suggest that they could have. Some people who managed to get out were able to turn around and get out of the traffic jam and get around the mess. The main road though sounds like it was blocked with poles.
The problem was a lack of preparedness for something that has never happened there before. I’ve seen that from my party’s local officials too. The bottom line IS DON’T COUNT ON GOVERNMENT to protect you and your family.
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