OT-Hawaii wildfires
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super sad
Lahaina is one of the great places on the planet
was just drinking beers and spreading aloha on Front Street in April
hard to believe it's gone
Lahaina is one of the great places on the planet
was just drinking beers and spreading aloha on Front Street in April
hard to believe it's gone
I don't really think wildfires in a green place like Hawaii buy they say the Hurricane winds are pushing this on these small islands.
it was a brush fire fueled by 50+ mph winds
big islands like Maui and the big island are super dry in most places
I'll be damned. I've never been. Every tropical island I've been too really green with showers most every day.
rains most the day at the 2nd highest peak on Maui and like he said on the east/northeast side (Hana), but it's a big island and mostly desert elsewhere
highly recommend going. one of the few places that lives up to the hype no matter how hyped you get.
Definitely want to go. Pearl Harbor on my bucket list. Always seemed too touristy for my liking.
Been to Maui and spent a day in Lahaina. So sad to see this happen. The one thing that shocked me about Maui was the dryness on that side of the island. Like many, I always assumed all of Hawaii was tropical so was actually a little disappointed in Maui and the road to Hana.
A co-worker of mine grew up in Lahaina and stated her childhood home was one of the homes destroyed. Her family is fine and had move to Oahu a few years back.
If you want to go somewhere that not as touristy I highly recommend Fiji. Fiji is made up of over 300 islands. I loved it there.
A co-worker of mine grew up in Lahaina and stated her childhood home was one of the homes destroyed. Her family is fine and had move to Oahu a few years back.
If you want to go somewhere that not as touristy I highly recommend Fiji. Fiji is made up of over 300 islands. I loved it there.
Maui is incredible. A week there never feels like enough time.
If you visit tropical Islands with legitimate mountains, like the Hawaiian islands, it's good to know where the windward and leeward sides are. The West Maui mountain range tops out just shy of 6,000 ft and the dormant volcano of Haleakala on the east side is just over 10,000 ft. Big rain shadow effect. West Mountains get nearly 400" of rain a year, while the Lahaina area on the leeward side of the mountains, maybe 6 miles away, averages 13" per year. Most of that being December to March.
Essentially windward is where the typical trade winds meet up with the landmass and the mountains force the warm moist air up creating the clouds and rain. The mountains essentially wring out most of the moisture so there normally isn't much left on the opposite side of the mountain (leeward), which is where most of the resorts are so you can enjoy the sunny days.
Highly recommend Maui if you want to getaway and just relax. Special place.
They’ve got thousands of acres that are mismanaged. They used to be pineapple plantations, but now they are overtaken by non-native weeds that burn very easily. The hurricane winds were rocket fuel. Sad indeed
That episode haunted me as a kid. I think it was a two-parter where you had to wait fhe next week to find out if Greg made it.
I would wager that there’s a “nature conservancy” group that prevents vegetation management just like there is in Napa county etal in California. Then when things turn in to a raging inferno they blame “climate change”.
So dumb. My uncle who was a smoke jumper firefighter in CO always preached about cutting out dead brush,fire breaks and controlled burns. Its called land management you climate alarmist hippy dipshits!!
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Nature “conservancy” shutting down crop cultivation almost never turns out well.
I was just there last month. Walked around old Lahaina and ate at Fleetwood's. Hard to believe it's gone now.
From everything I've heard during my visits to Hawaii, the ag industry in Hawaii wasn't shut down due to nature conservancy. The sugar cane industry in Hawaii ended, like most manufacturing segments in the US, due companies moving operations to foreign soil with cheaper labor sources. I haven't been to Maui in 20 years, but in the late 90s there were still alot of sugar cane fields around areas near Kihei and I think by Lahaina as well. I don't know what is in those fields today.
I have zero doubt that ag interests were driven out by misplaced environmental concerns. Modern crop cultivation is not labor intensive enough to make it move thousands of miles away. It’s probably either due to housing development or environmental regulations. I’ve read stories of abandoned fields growing up in dry non-native weed species that are fueling the fires.
I don’t know for sure what is going on in Hawaii but 10 years ago I spoke with multiple vineyard owners in the Napa Valley who were lamenting the overgrowth of thousands of acres of land controlled by the “Nature Conservancy”. They said then that it was a disaster waiting to happen. They’ve had several huge fires which have destroyed vineyards and wineries since then.
I do not often read what you say currently, but have here.
It is beyond tragic what happened to Lahaina, and yet again Dingle has to jump in with opinions he openly admits he knows nothing about.
Suprised he does not have a relative there too giving him the “real picture”, lol.
I am glad I have memories of Lahaina.
It’s happening all over California. As I said, I’ve read stores from Hawaii of farmland that has been allowed to grow up in weeds that fueled this fire. You tell me why that would be. I don’t know for sure but given Hawaii’s similar handling of things as California I have strong suspicion. You’ll never hear it from their media.
Would be similar to Kodiak burning to the ground.
Our histories are similar.
Kodiak was Capitol of Russian America beginning by 1795
Lahaina was Capitol of Hawaii in near similar years.
The history lost is what makes me sad.
Our histories are similar.
Kodiak was Capitol of Russian America beginning by 1795
Lahaina was Capitol of Hawaii in near similar years.
The history lost is what makes me sad.
Yeah, while my older brother and his buddies were struggling with "Ginger or Mary Ann?", my dilemma was Marcia or Jan?
The vineyard and winery owners I knew in Napa were about as far left as you can get other than one. It isn’t so much a political issue as it is common sense. People who have lots of good intentions and no knowledge of local conditions can really screw up an ecosystem.
It’s very much like the situation where environmental groups kept getting court injunctions to stop prescribed burns near LA. Every year for years. Then boom they have a wildfire and it destroys thousands of acres and hundreds of homes. Then the mudslides start.
So you think that this is the time to assign blame on conservationists based upon your take on the Napa and LA situations? I have a friend who has lived in Maui for years who lost his home, vehicle and business. I'll pass on to him that he should have been keeping a sharper eye on the conservation groups.
Ginger or Mary Anne?
We are same age but a few months.
This choice, some say describes one.