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Redmich

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You gotta have your "ducks in a row" if making a move like this...sometimes that takes a year to set up, unless their is a major violation, gross negligence, personal misconduct which would require action immediately.
We went 4-2 the last 6 games of his first season giving some optimism for season 2.

since then it has been a **** show

the ducks should have been called to order after season 2 and they should have been assembled in the finest of rows after season 3.

to basically be shackled to a year 5 because even after a 3-9 year 4 you still don’t have your **** together is an abomination.

as I have said previously, Scott Frost is extremely fortunate to be coaching at a place that no longer cares about football
 

HominidHusker

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I wouldn't like it, but agree with this. Would represent a winning record against Div 1 competition. But, we are so physically soft I don't see us better than 5-7 tops.
Agree. My stupid fan opinion is that we’ll take 7 wins and see what 2023 brings; below 7 and I predict coaching changes. It would also depend what those losses look like.

However, based on games 1-2, I don’t think we’ll rack up more than 4-5 wins max. The only way to get to 7 is for a miracle to happen on defensive side of ball… I just don’t see where that miracle comes from. Offense and Special Teams would also have to improve, but I think that’s more realistic right now.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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Yes, this would be consistent with what others have reported as well (regarding the 2nd sentence)

The part about 8 wins, I highly doubt that. We'd take a measly 6 at this pt. Trev should know that as well.

I have zero confidence in trev Alberts doing the right thing in either getting rid of Frost or bringing in a highly successful coach with track record of success. Trev is a failure and so is president Ted Carter, who is completely incompetent
Drive through Baxter Arena and the UNO baseball complex in Aksarben. Trev is far from a failure.
 

redwine65

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Drive through Baxter Arena and the UNO baseball complex in Aksarben. Trev is far from a failure.
if I remember right alberts squared away a over paid firefighter union rep who attacked him...
he has alot of accomplishments, and he was the voice of reason on espn for some time.
 

ADV88

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Like others have said... most likely, if the team struggles this weekend and then gets hammered by OU at Home and it's all over then and there... no further discussion
 

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We went 4-2 the last 6 games of his first season giving some optimism for season 2.

since then it has been a **** show

the ducks should have been called to order after season 2 and they should have been assembled in the finest of rows after season 3.

to basically be shackled to a year 5 because even after a 3-9 year 4 you still don’t have your **** together is an abomination.

as I have said previously, Scott Frost is extremely fortunate to be coaching at a place that no longer cares about football

I think we were 4-2 at the beginning of the next season. Then came the hoddie fiasco against Minnesota and it has been one disaster after another since.
 

huskat

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Like others have said... most likely, if the team struggles this weekend and then gets hammered by OU at Home and it's all over then and there... no further discussion
If you are saying that after game 4 he could be fired by a poor showing (but a win) against GS and a blowout loss against OU, I disagree. I don't think he gets fired after 4 games. Not saying he won't eventually later this year, but not after 4 games.
 

SuperBigFan

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What is the sense in canning him before the end of the season?

Is it so that NU can look for a coach first? I mean, you can do that even while you have a coach.
 

dand84

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This is Frost we are talking about. Read between the lines. He is out in a few weeks since the likelihood of him winning 8 games is between slim and none. Doesn’t have it in him.
 

Rcnut223

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Don’t be surprised if Oct 1 comes and goes. If the requirement is 8 wins the Trev will have to wait until there are 5 loses.

This , of course , could change if other metrics in the contract were not achievable for the reminded of the season , come Oct 1.
 

TheNewNU_rivals50820

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I think we were 4-2 at the beginning of the next season. Then came the hoddie fiasco against Minnesota and it has been one disaster after another since.
Lmao I forgot about that. Scott said "We have too many guys wearing hoodies out there we need to toughen up" What a loser.
 

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We had people on this board defending Callahan several years after. Who cares?
Let’s be honest, he’s been the best hire throughout all of this (low bar). The Dr. should’ve let Callahan fire the DC and given him another year.

All that said… at the time, I was done with the Callahan regime.
 
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What is the sense in canning him before the end of the season?

Is it so that NU can look for a coach first? I mean, you can do that even while you have a coach.
It’s so you can recruit for the early signing period Dec 21-23, 2022. Gives your new coach a couple of months to operate. If you wait until after the regular season, you severely hamper your chances of signing a decent class.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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He may be, but he is definitely in the know. He has basically been a mouthpiece for the AD in the past and has been a huge Frost apologist. Him stating this is pretty significant, IMO. It also makes me think Trev has a pretty good idea who he wants and feels good about getting him.
I agree with this, and all the Sipple hate, but he is likely as close to being in the know as anyone could be.

If people think the win count is too high, consider that a lot of people want him gone regardless of his record this year.

I think Trev wanted him gone last year, but as with many things, appearances matter so that the narrative meets the expectations of "The Nebraska Way".

I feel like the decision has already been made and so the timing matters in regard to buyout money, but you also don't want to give too much of chance now to change the narrative , if say he had a short term lucky break.

If we did catch fire, I could still see the firing come, right after a big loss. You're not going to have all these plans made and then let a 4-5 game winning streak derail those plans of a 4+ year failed coach.
 

Big bo fan

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If you are saying that after game 4 he could be fired by a poor showing (but a win) against GS and a blowout loss against OU, I disagree. I don't think he gets fired after 4 games. Not saying he won't eventually later this year, but not after 4 games.
He won’t be gone after 4 games , but OP is saying if those things occur with our next 2 games he will be gone after Indiana, because it would be obvious he won’t get to 8. October 1 is the key date the buyout drops.
 

Big bo fan

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It’s so you can recruit for the early signing period Dec 21-23, 2022. Gives your new coach a couple of months to operate. If you wait until after the regular season, you severely hamper your chances of signing a decent class.
Even if he is fired October 2 , the new coach will not be named until after the Iowa game, and with the transfer portal and NIL worrying about a early signing period is less important now. West
 

Lincoln100

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If Frost gets to 7 wins, he stays, but show me 7 wins... It could be done if for some reason the DL turns it around, but it is going to be hard to get to with the way we currently look. What a difference a year makes. If we had last years D with this O, we might be cooking with gas.
If Alberts keeps him after 7 wins, it will be very disappointing and I will give Alberts a vote of zero confidence. That being said, no way he keeps him with 7 wins
 
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steinek11

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There is no way Simple knows this. 7 wins and a bowl game is improvement and Scott's safe space.. 6 wins is meh.
 

Lincoln100

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I expect a tight win or even a loss to UGA South. Frost is done. He has proven to do dumb **** every game and the Nebraska media will continue to suck his left nut and never ask a tough question. The OU game will be a formality - a loss. Frost has created the softest team in America.

The players will have given up and the October firing will occur without much noise. Good riddance. Enjoy your buyout. GTFO!
 

steinek11

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What is the sense in canning him before the end of the season?

Is it so that NU can look for a coach first? I mean, you can do that even while you have a coach.
Mid season firings work in the NFL. Typically not a good idea in college.
 

phoenix4nu

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If Alberts keeps him after 7 wins, it will be very disappointing and I will give Alberts a vote of zero confidence. That being said, no way he keeps him with 7 wins
If he miraculously won the final five games and ended up 7-5, I don’t think he would be fired. That would mean victories over Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa. That’s very unlikely though.
 

Big bo fan

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There is no way Simple knows this. 7 wins and a bowl game is improvement and Scott's safe space.. 6 wins is meh.
So Sipp who probably has as much access to North Stadium as anyone doesn’t know 8 is the number, but a Random OP on the message board knows 7 is the safe number, interesting!
 

bshirt73

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This. Sipple might be a gasbag, but he does have access to the AD and always has. That is exactly why he has always been such a suck-up, sycophant and a program sunshine pumper. It all had one goal: Access. I think he is most likely repeating something he has been told. I highly doubt Sipple would get that specific unless he had something he was basing it on. Otherwise, he would have just said that in his view Frost needs 8 wins and just left it at that. And I am not buying the clickbait argument. There are ways he could have generated a click bait article without going out on a limb like this saying Frost will be fired by 10/1 if things do not go well in the next two games.

Funny isn't it that a game against Georgia Southern could make or break the career of a Husker coach. It is a sad and pitiful reminder that we have sunk to depths none of us could have imagined even 15 years ago.

Yes, that's very sadly but real as can be. 15 years ago we could never be that pitiful.
 

Lincoln100

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If he miraculously won the final five games and ended up 7-5, I don’t think he would be fired. That would mean victories over Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa. That’s very unlikely though.
That also means a lot of **** losses. Not a hard schedule, year 5, and 7 is your best? Sayonara sucker.
 
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What sense would it make to renegotiate a deal for Frost, to reduce a buyout, then hire 4 assistant coaches to 2 year guaranteed deals? If you look at the numbers, if Frost wins 6 games this year he is retained. Paying 4 assistant coaches an additional year, is equal to paying Frost the buyout of his deal. There is no monetary savings in firing Frost in 2020, 2021 or beyond..... my opinion
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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You do know, decisions aren't "made in a vacuum". Trev may want to do something, but he has to have Ronnie Green, Ted Carter, Nebraska Board of Regents, Athletic Department, major financial supporters/boosters in alignment. Especially with the $7 million we would owe Frost before 1 Oct.
Don't forget about Osborne
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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What sense would it make to renegotiate a deal for Frost, to reduce a buyout, then hire 4 assistant coaches to 2 year guaranteed deals? If you look at the numbers, if Frost wins 6 games this year he is retained. Paying 4 assistant coaches an additional year, is equal to paying Frost the buyout of his deal. There is no monetary savings in firing Frost in 2020, 2021 or beyond..... my opinion
I don't know what all the numbers are, but I heard Frost's goes down by 7.5 mil in October.. so the first thing that jumps out to me, is 4 assistants x 1 year owed is not equal to 7.5 mil..
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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That's just stupid! He had to end it due to a helium shortage in the country! All our helium we have is to be used for research and lab purposes. Makes more sense than for balloons! SMH
A good Athletic Director would have just had the balloons filled up with hydrogen and carried on without a comma.
 

steinek11

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So Sipp who probably has as much access to North Stadium as anyone doesn’t know 8 is the number, but a Random OP on the message board knows 7 is the safe number, interesting!
Correct. We're all just making it up as we go.
 
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Even if he is fired October 2 , the new coach will not be named until after the Iowa game, and with the transfer portal and NIL worrying about a early signing period is less important now. West
Depends on who you hire…another team’s active coach, sure. But what about Mickey Joseph, or Coach Urban Meyer? If either of those is at the top of your list, you give them as much lead time on the recruiting trail as possible. Even if you’re leaning hard into NIL and the Transfer Portal, you still benefit from having the new HC named 2 months earlier than the Iowa game, even if he doesn’t coach this year’s team to the end.