Should Trev have pulled the trigger last year?

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It wasn't Trev's hire. Moos did us no favors with that contract extension. Trev made Frost restructure his contract. Doing so, and thus giving Frost another year, Trev laid out expectations and will make his judgement when the time is right. (After Oct. 1)
 

SuperBigFan

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It wasn't Trev's hire. Moos did us no favors with that contract extension. Trev made Frost restructure his contract. Doing so, and thus giving Frost another year, Trev laid out expectations and will make his judgement when the time is right. (After Oct. 1)
Not being his hire should have made it easier but I think Frost being a Husker legend makes it so much tougher.

I am trying to think of schools that have been in this position...Was John Blake a former Sooner?
 

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Not being his hire should have made it easier but I think Frost being a Husker legend makes it so much tougher.

I am trying to think of schools that have been in this position...Was John Blake a former Sooner?
Blake was a assistant coach and Gary Gibbs was the player.
 
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No question he should have been fired last year.

I personally think he should have got the boot after losing to Purdue, but I understood giving him the full season to try to turn it around. After dropping 6 straight to end the year, I was absolutely shocked how many defenders there still were.

I do understand Trev was in a tricky spot with the politics of the situation in firing the golden boy, but objectively Frost would have been fired if he were coaching at any other D1 football program than Nebraska last year.
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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Not sure why, but in the many multiple discussions of Frost getting a fifth year on this board, people always forget that Frost has people in his corner that Trev has to deal with....boosters, former players, a previous coach, a radio announcer, etc. There are lots of Frost apologists still out there, though I can't imagine why. IMHO placating these people by giving him another year was AT LEAST as important as the $15M buyout at the end of last year.
 

mikecanale

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No question he should have been fired last year.

I personally think he should have got the boot after losing to Purdue, but I understood giving him the full season to try to turn it around. After dropping 6 straight to end the year, I was absolutely shocked how many defenders there still were.

I do understand Trev was in a tricky spot with the politics of the situation in firing the golden boy, but objectively Frost would have been fired if he were coaching at any other D1 football program than Nebraska last year.
You make a sound argument. Who do you think would have been the new coach?
 

BringItOnHome

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There had to be a reason they agreed on October 1st. It clearly was selected to give Trev plenty of time to complete a thorough search.

I am keeping the faith that Trev has been waiting a long time to take this program in a new direction.
 

Redscarlet

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No question he should have been fired last year.

I personally think he should have got the boot after losing to Purdue, but I understood giving him the full season to try to turn it around. After dropping 6 straight to end the year, I was absolutely shocked how many defenders there still were.

I do understand Trev was in a tricky spot with the politics of the situation in firing the golden boy, but objectively Frost would have been fired if he were coaching at any other D1 football program than Nebraska last year.
That’s telling me some boosters wanted to give him one more shot.. Other than that it’s the 15M buyout the higher up didn’t want to pay out..
 
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You make a sound argument. Who do you think would have been the new coach?
Last year? I think they make Chins interim and do a full search. No clue who we would have ended up with.

Honestly the new coach will probably not be a superstar we are all hoping for. May be an up and coming coordinator or a HC at a lower level that has had some success. We may have some more failures before we find success. And I think that’s fine. Nebraska isn’t in the same spot they were 10-20 years ago to make a big splash hire.

But we do have a lot to offer for the right coach, AND have enough data to say what we are currently doing is not going to work. So to not give someone else a shot because “we won’t be able to get any good coaches” is crazy to me.
 

antirowboat

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Once Scott Frost is fired, watch Benning's kid suddenly show interest in Nebraska more than he currentl does.

I said last year when I admitted I was wrong about Scott Frost that we should have paid attention to what Benning was saying before the hire was made. Benning was right. He knew the guy well enough call it out before the hire was made. Once Scott Frost is fired I will reach out to Benning and tell him he was right and we were wrong.

Trev's hands were tied last years. He wanted to fire Frost but the money people, those that Trev reports to, some former players, a lot of fans, etc, were still demanding another year for Frost to get a shot at winning games. The compromise is the October 1st date and the firing can be made then.
 

antirowboat

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I bet Trev focuses on hiring a head coach who believes in a downhill rushing attack and strong LOS play. He isn't going to hire a pass game, passive **** as his first choice.
 

Redscarlet

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Once Scott Frost is fired, watch Benning's kid suddenly show interest in Nebraska more than he currentl does.

I said last year when I admitted I was wrong about Scott Frost that we should have paid attention to what Benning was saying before the hire was made. Benning was right. He knew the guy well enough call it out before the hire was made. Once Scott Frost is fired I will reach out to Benning and tell him he was right and we were wrong.

Trev's hands were tied last years. He wanted to fire Frost but the money people, those that Trev reports to, some former players, a lot of fans, etc, were still demanding another year for Frost to get a shot at winning games. The compromise is the October 1st date and the firing can be made then.
It could also go all the way till after the Purdue and Illinois games whether he remains our coach till the end of the year..
 

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I really don't know. I had resigned myself to accept whatever the decision was. At least this way nobody can say Frost didn't get a fair shake. There can be a clean break October 1 and we can all start looking towards to future.
















Onside kick.....what the ****.

What a dumb-***.
 

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oldjar07

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Not sure why, but in the many multiple discussions of Frost getting a fifth year on this board, people always forget that Frost has people in his corner that Trev has to deal with....boosters, former players, a previous coach, a radio announcer, etc. There are lots of Frost apologists still out there, though I can't imagine why. IMHO placating these people by giving him another year was AT LEAST as important as the $15M buyout at the end of last year.
So what, it's a part of the job. The point of the AD position is not to placate to those people and make an independent decision on what's best for the program. Trev failed massively at this. He wasn't cut out to be the AD at UNO and he certainly isn't at the flagship program in the state.
 

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I know this has been beat to death - but if Scott Frost thought kicking an onside kick when we're up 11 points given the circumstances after year 5, he is not fit to be the head coach of the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Period.

I wanted this to work out so badly that I was very emotionally invested in this game hoping to see an improved edge rush and offensive firepower. If Whipple is calling the plays I don't remember us even lining up in an I-formation one time. Our horsepower that will get us tough yards (Yant) is nonexistent. Rahmir, our proven best all-around All-Purpose Running Back is only playing special teams... Our worst WR's are in when the game is on the line...

I mean honestly the way we got manhandled, the choice of players contributing, the onside kick, I seriously wonder if he's that bad/arrogant/stupid or if he knows he's fired and wants to get it over to pocket the $15 million before October 1. Both are inexcusable, but I almost hope it's the latter but either way he's not fit to be a head coach at any level of football.
 

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So what, it's a part of the job. The point of the AD position is not to placate to those people and make an independent decision on what's best for the program. Trev failed massively at this. He wasn't cut out to be the AD at UNO and he certainly isn't at the flagship program in the state.
Sometimes I debate an issue with a longtime poster who I generally agree with on most things and the bottom line is I have to just agree to disagree on the issue under debate. Part of the Athletic Director job (IMHO) is to listen to, and make some attempt to comply with the "suggestions" from people who donate hundreds of thousands of dollars and/or buildings. So I reject your opinion that part of his AD position is not to placate those people, I think it is.
 

moralvictories

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So what, it's a part of the job. The point of the AD position is not to placate to those people and make an independent decision on what's best for the program. Trev failed massively at this. He wasn't cut out to be the AD at UNO and he certainly isn't at the flagship program in the state.
He more or less has to placate the boosters. They are the ones calling the shots behind the scenes.
 

Swiv3D

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No question he should have been fired last year.

I personally think he should have got the boot after losing to Purdue, but I understood giving him the full season to try to turn it around. After dropping 6 straight to end the year, I was absolutely shocked how many defenders there still were.

I do understand Trev was in a tricky spot with the politics of the situation in firing the golden boy, but objectively Frost would have been fired if he were coaching at any other D1 football program than Nebraska last year.
A lot of us were done after the Illinois game last year, the coaching staff's post game comments after that game were all we needed to hear to cement our thoughts that they were overpaid dumbshits that had no idea what they were doing

Wish the big donors that forced trev to compromise didn't have the same stupid mindset that half our fanbase did about what was happening last year on the field.

You don't need to be a coach to see that they aren't running this program the right way; just like you don't need to be a chef to know that a meal is awful
 

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Not sure why, but in the many multiple discussions of Frost getting a fifth year on this board, people always forget that Frost has people in his corner that Trev has to deal with....boosters, former players, a previous coach, a radio announcer, etc. There are lots of Frost apologists still out there, though I can't imagine why. IMHO placating these people by giving him another year was AT LEAST as important as the $15M buyout at the end of last year.
And Matt Davison. Isnt he the primary fundraiser these days? Does he leave when Frost gets canned? I wonder how that factors in, if at all.
 

oldjar07

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Sometimes I debate an issue with a longtime poster who I generally agree with on most things and the bottom line is I have to just agree to disagree on the issue under debate. Part of the Athletic Director job (IMHO) is to listen to, and make some attempt to comply with the "suggestions" from people who donate hundreds of thousands of dollars and/or buildings. So I reject your opinion that part of his AD position is not to placate those people, I think it is.
That's okay, you've always been a respectable poster. A lot of people like to argue like children just because they disagree with somebody. There's no need for that.
 
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Not sure why, but in the many multiple discussions of Frost getting a fifth year on this board, people always forget that Frost has people in his corner that Trev has to deal with....boosters, former players, a previous coach, a radio announcer, etc. There are lots of Frost apologists still out there, though I can't imagine why. IMHO placating these people by giving him another year was AT LEAST as important as the $15M buyout at the end of last year.
Undoubtedly true. Good post.
 

bama_husker

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Not being his hire should have made it easier but I think Frost being a Husker legend makes it so much tougher.

I am trying to think of schools that have been in this position...Was John Blake a former Sooner?
Been in what position? Having a former player become HC and get canned? Mike Shula comes to mind along with Joker Phillips at Kentucky. Phil Fulmer was eventually canned after a mostly successful career at UT.
 

SeaOfRed75

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And Matt Davison. Isnt he the primary fundraiser these days? Does he leave when Frost gets canned? I wonder how that factors in, if at all.
That ************ has Frosty stink all over him from them jerking each other off so much. He'll be gone in a package firing with his bro.