Hot for teacher....

[Lars72_rivals313832]

I'm and old man now, but hell, when I was 14, I'd get a hardon from a stiff breeze. Not sure exactly what I would have done had that landed in my lap. I'm thinking Newbomb Kirk.

A Hollywood Knights reference! Well done!

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

A Hollywood Knights reference! Well done!

Tried to buy that movie at Hollywood Video on 84th and Center and they thought it was a porno.

At that time It was not released so it was a no go.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Tried to buy that movie at Hollywood Video on 84th and Center and they thought it was a porno.

At that time It was not released so it was a no go.

You can watch the full movie on Internet Archives. Just go to the site and in the search bar just type in Hollywood Knights and it'll be the first one to appear.
Click on the movie, and its the full movie.
There's no log in or anything, just make sure you're in the Hollywood Knights full movie of 1hr31mins and not the 2 minute trailer. LOL

 

[SuperBigFan]

Would you finally accept your kids are dipshits if a camera was on all the time showing evidence, please god make it a thing!

Ha! Right???

A lot of parents found out, really quick, just how annoying and lazy their kids were during covid lockdowns of school.

If parents got a chance to see how their kids REALLY act from 730am to 330pm each day, they would be shocked at what little two faced kids they have raised.

I don't even mean that in a bad way really, but most parents would be shocked to see their kids sleeping, refusing to take out airpods, not taking notes, swearing, and so on...oh and then seeing that their kid does in fact have tests and quizzes coming up and homework to do, even though they told their parents that they don't have anything, wow.

 

[ChipDiamond]

One thing that's missing in schools nowadays, especially at the high school level and even when you get into some of the middle schools:

In some schools, with the exception of the Principal, Asst Principal, PE Teachers, and strategically placed teachers throughout the building have cell phones. The kids NO.

Once a person steps inside that building the cell phone goes dead. Cell phones are such a distraction during the so-called learning periods as well as when the kids are moving classrooms.

The system is producing enough dumbass kids as it is. Any steps that can be taken to get them to listen is a good thing.

Granted 15% are gonna be poor students, or frankly, just not very bright, many troubled students, lots of kids from single parent homes, some kids living in shelters, or getting an early start on drugs, etc. Hell, probably 25% or more don't even want to be there.

We just have a real mess in this country and it all started when parents could no longer swat or whip their asses when they needed to be disciplined. Not whip the piss out of 'em, but enough to get their attention. Sending kids to the Vice-Principals office used to have a stern affect. Not any more, so many of these little ***** just have no respect for authority.

Good take. Teachers should be able to grade the parents based on the behaviors/performance of their children. those that are bastards on purpose and place more of a burden on the public education system should be taxed higher for their lack of accountability as a parent.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Man, no cell phones in school would be amazing.

Honestly, I am kind of over the use of tablets too but they are also very helpful and cut way down on making copies.

We need a trade-track. If you don't want to go to college then at 15 you still go to "school" but only for half of the day, the second have you learn a trade, partnered with a union as a junior-apprentice. You get paid with a portion going back to the union you joined and upon graduation you start full time in that trade (if you want)

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

One of the best ways I have found to get a little attention from the parents is to make things inconvenient for the parents. When they are getting phone calls at work, or when they have to come pick up their kid after school, or even just call a meeting with the parent during my planning period. The behavior for most kids changes pretty quickly.

 

[steinek11]

Man, no cell phones in school would be amazing.

Honestly, I am kind of over the use of tablets too but they are also very helpful and cut way down on making copies.

We need a trade-track. If you don't want to go to college then at 15 you still go to "school" but only for half of the day, the second have you learn a trade, partnered with a union as a junior-apprentice. You get paid with a portion going back to the union you joined and upon graduation you start full time in that trade (if you want)

I bet a lot of kids would go for that. Don't have to sit in the classroom all day, make some scratch, get plenty of cigarette breaks.

 

[SuperBigFan]

I bet a lot of kids would go for that. Don't have to sit in the classroom all day, make some scratch, get plenty of cigarette breaks.

vaping...it is all vaping now!

But think about being 18ish, done with school and you are making 60k in a trade?

Do you know how many 1986 Camaros you could buy with that kind of scratch?

 

[steinek11]

vaping...it is all vaping now!

But think about being 18ish, done with school and you are making 60k in a trade?

Do you know how many 1986 Camaros you could buy with that kind of scratch?

Sounds like my misfit nephew. Dropped out of high school but managed to get a GED. The one thing he did enjoy in high school was welding and he was pretty good at it. Now he's making 30 bucks an hour and is getting trained. He was never going to go to college but at least he has something to lean into.

 

[WHCSC]

Man, no cell phones in school would be amazing.

Honestly, I am kind of over the use of tablets too but they are also very helpful and cut way down on making copies.

We need a trade-track. If you don't want to go to college then at 15 you still go to "school" but only for half of the day, the second have you learn a trade, partnered with a union as a junior-apprentice. You get paid with a portion going back to the union you joined and upon graduation you start full time in that trade (if you want)

I've had kids in several different HS in the area and they all offered dual credit classes in trades through Metro Community College.

 

[TruHusker]

The state of Kansas has dedicated money to assisting HS students not only attend classes at technical or community colleges but to also obtain necessary certifications that may lead to employment.

I worked with many area high schools in having their HS students attend the tech college I was at, students came from as far as 30 miles away. I can't believe there aren't abundant opportunities for anyone who wants them.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

My district down here has a College and Career Academy. Kids can get certain certifications and license prep work done basically for free.
Automotive
Carpentry
Welding
HVAC
Culinary Arts
Networking
Animal Care
Cosmotology

Its freaking crazy the opportunities we have for kids that don't want to go to college.

 

[WHCSC]

My district down here has a College and Career Academy. Kids can get certain certifications and license prep work done basically for free.
Automotive
Carpentry
Welding
HVAC
Culinary Arts
Networking
Animal Care
Cosmotology

Its freaking crazy the opportunities we have for kids that don't want to go to college.

And how few take advantage

 

[SuperBigFan]

And how few take advantage

I don't think most "get it", when you are 15-16 it is hard to understand that 30 dollars an hour is 60K a year...that does not include "side jobs" and raises and a 401k and the fact that when they are 28 they will be making 100K a year a that trade.

We are so scared to talk about money.

 

[TruHusker]

My district down here has a College and Career Academy. Kids can get certain certifications and license prep work done basically for free.
Automotive
Carpentry
Welding
HVAC
Culinary Arts
Networking
Animal Care
Cosmotology

Its freaking crazy the opportunities we have for kids that don't want to go to college.

Exactly, it isn't like the old days. Kids have every opportunity to hit the ground running with a career right out of HS. I often told HS kids even if they didn't want to do "fill in the blank" for a living, they could do it part time to get them through college as well.

 

[Big bo fan]

Man, no cell phones in school would be amazing.

Honestly, I am kind of over the use of tablets too but they are also very helpful and cut way down on making copies.

We need a trade-track. If you don't want to go to college then at 15 you still go to "school" but only for half of the day, the second have you learn a trade, partnered with a union as a junior-apprentice. You get paid with a portion going back to the union you joined and upon graduation you start full time in that trade (if you want)

Don’t know where you located, but in Nebraska the ESUs have set up programs that kids can do this very thing the kids have to take advantage, but it’s out there.

 

[Huskers=Best]

"False analogy" = ****...I messed up and got backed into a corner so it is time to bring up gender topics and 5 year olds.

Let me help you with something...99% of educators do not want to teach about choosing genders either. The teachers are not the crazy ones. Watch some school board meetings, watch non-teachers go up and freak out about stuff.

Also, you misspelled analogy.

Hardly. You have literally proved literally nothing with your analogy, which is negligently wrong.
Public school is not a business, so those comparisons have no bearing on what people have the capacity to do. Who pays for public education and thus educators? The general public. Who pays for all of those technically trained professions? The business owners and ultimately their customers. Schools fail our kids, they just keep chugging along. Business fails, the business closes. Apples and oranges. You don’t like what a business is doing, you stop giving them your money and use someone else. You don’t like what the public school is doing, you still have to pay taxes that fund public schools. False analogy.

Ever heard of multidisciplinary teams? (Guess not having been stuck in school all your life and never growing up past worrying about who is dating who and who will win the prom king and queen.) Very common in general business practice, which are comprised of a larger group of professionals that are not all educated or professionals in the particular part of that business organization. All of the examples you used were people who very specific technical skills that have taken years of training that cannot be done proficiently without specialized skills. Surgeon screws up, he is liable and gets his license revoked. You obviously know nothing about medical teams because they work in multidisciplinary teams within the operating room that contribute to the success of a surgery, so that was probably about the worst analogy you could have chosen to fuel your false analogy regardless of whether you think you proved anything with your nonsense. I could go on and on, but I have things to do, since I don’t have summers off of work.

 

[Walleye 1]

Hardly. You have literally proved literally nothing with your analogy, which is negligently wrong.
Public school is not a business, so those comparisons have no bearing on what people have the capacity to do. Who pays for public education and thus educators? The general public. Who pays for all of those technically trained professions? The business owners and ultimately their customers. Schools fail our kids, they just keep chugging along. Business fails, the business closes. Apples and oranges. You don’t like what a business is doing, you stop giving them your money and use someone else. You don’t like what the public school is doing, you still have to pay taxes that fund public schools. False analogy.

Ever heard of multidisciplinary teams? (Guess not having been stuck in school all your life and never growing up past worrying about who is dating who and who will win the prom king and queen.) Very common in general business practice, which are comprised of a larger group of professionals that are not all educated or professionals in the particular part of that business organization. All of the examples you used were people who very specific technical skills that have taken years of training that cannot be done proficiently without specialized skills. Surgeon screws up, he is liable and gets his license revoked. You obviously know nothing about medical teams because they work in multidisciplinary teams within the operating room that contribute to the success of a surgery, so that was probably about the worst analogy you could have chosen to fuel your false analogy regardless of whether you think you proved anything with your nonsense. I could go on and on, but I have things to do, since I don’t have summers off of work.

This is completely ridiculous. You actually wasted time posting this nonsense? Obviously you have nothing better to do.

 

[Huskers=Best]

This is completely ridiculous. You actually wasted time posting this nonsense? Obviously you have nothing better to do.

So you think that private business and public education are comparable? That is the nonsense. You responded, so you obviously have nothing better to do. What a moronic retort…

 

[SuperBigFan]

This is completely ridiculous. You actually wasted time posting this nonsense? Obviously you have nothing better to do.

Ha...right?

Now I get the feeling that he is just mad he is not a teacher.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Hardly. You have literally proved literally nothing with your analogy, which is negligently wrong.
Public school is not a business, so those comparisons have no bearing on what people have the capacity to do. Who pays for public education and thus educators? The general public. Who pays for all of those technically trained professions? The business owners and ultimately their customers. Schools fail our kids, they just keep chugging along. Business fails, the business closes. Apples and oranges. You don’t like what a business is doing, you stop giving them your money and use someone else. You don’t like what the public school is doing, you still have to pay taxes that fund public schools. False analogy.

Ever heard of multidisciplinary teams? (Guess not having been stuck in school all your life and never growing up past worrying about who is dating who and who will win the prom king and queen.) Very common in general business practice, which are comprised of a larger group of professionals that are not all educated or professionals in the particular part of that business organization. All of the examples you used were people who very specific technical skills that have taken years of training that cannot be done proficiently without specialized skills. Surgeon screws up, he is liable and gets his license revoked. You obviously know nothing about medical teams because they work in multidisciplinary teams within the operating room that contribute to the success of a surgery, so that was probably about the worst analogy you could have chosen to fuel your false analogy regardless of whether you think you proved anything with your nonsense. I could go on and on, but I have things to do, since I don’t have summers off of work.

I would LOVE for you to go on and on, please!

Do one now for the police and fire department and how non cops and non firemen should be in charge of their training and decide what guns and hoses they use and pick out the colors of the uniforms.

Look, I get it, you hate teachers and education, no big deal.

But the second you use "false analogy" (and you spell it wrong), everyone knows you lost. False analogy is the same as saying "Well, no those examples don't count because they proved your point, not mine"

 

[SuperBigFan]

So you think that private business and public education are comparable? That is the nonsense. You responded, so you obviously have nothing better to do. What a moronic retort…

You are the one who thinks it is comparable.

If you own a business and you don't like when a customer comes in and starts breaking **** and swearing at you or walks in and steals your ****, you can kick them out, call the cops and never see them again.


When a student does that, we get to see them in our class about 20 minutes later. We don't get to "get rid" of a bad customer.

In business, when you order something and it turned out to be defective, you get to return it for one that does what you want.

You have like 100 posts, are all of them about (wishing you had been a teacher) hating on teachers?

 

[PCastro]

Man, no cell phones in school would be amazing.

Honestly, I am kind of over the use of tablets too but they are also very helpful and cut way down on making copies.

We need a trade-track. If you don't want to go to college then at 15 you still go to "school" but only for half of the day, the second have you learn a trade, partnered with a union as a junior-apprentice. You get paid with a portion going back to the union you joined and upon graduation you start full time in that trade (if you want)

All these AOC like politicians wanting cancellation of 50k of student debt for kids that read ******* philosophy and such yet they can’t figure out to have a free trade school after high school to add needed knowledge and talent.

 

[SuperBigFan]

All these AOC like politicians wanting cancellation of 50k of student debt for kids that read ****ing philosophy and such yet they can’t figure out to have a free trade school after high school to add needed knowledge and talent.

Free trade schools would be an amazing idea.

 

[king_kong_]

Free trade schools would be an amazing idea.

Used to be called an apprenticeship

If we ever want to improve edu in America, the private sector has to take on a lot of responsibility (obviously)

Govt providing big incentives to large companies that always need skilled tradespeople (utilities, auto manufacturers, HVAC, plumbing, etc) to formalize and grow annual apprentice programs would make a big and immediate positive impact in a lot of communities

but that’s probably racist or something so it won’t happen

 

[SuperBigFan]

Used to be called an apprenticeship

If we ever want to improve edu in America, the private sector has to take on a lot of responsibility (obviously)

Govt providing big incentives to large companies that always need skilled tradespeople (utilities, auto manufacturers, HVAC, plumbing, etc) to formalize and grow annual apprentice programs would make a big and immediate positive impact in a lot of communities

but that’s probably racist or something so it won’t happen

Amen.

 

[TruHusker]

Free trade schools would be an amazing idea.

NOTHING is free.

 

[TruHusker]

Used to be called an apprenticeship

If we ever want to improve edu in America, the private sector has to take on a lot of responsibility (obviously)

Govt providing big incentives to large companies that always need skilled tradespeople (utilities, auto manufacturers, HVAC, plumbing, etc) to formalize and grow annual apprentice programs would make a big and immediate positive impact in a lot of communities

but that’s probably racist or something so it won’t happen

I am not sure people are looking hard enough. It occurs all over around here. I was working with businesses 15 years about developing this model if they wanted to have sustainable staffing.

 

[SuperBigFan]

NOTHING is free.

Sure, but I mean at no cost to the student.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Well, this thread is aging well. It isn't even one of Boxes and it is working towards 5 pages.

As I said earlier in this thread, I retired from Education and was at nearly every level except superintendent. Much of what has been said in here is not accurate and would take all day to debunk. I just hope some of the same people know more about football than schools. A few highlights.

Yes, the unions are not good for education. They are very much power and worker focused. That last I looked at their planks there wasn't much said about the students and outcomes, all teacher focused. And I assume people realize there is more than one union, none of them seem to be of much value to student learning.

Yes, all teachers are essentially treated the same per union agreement and salary schedules. That is the union way of course, which should give everyone pause when you hear our left leaning party extol the virtues of the wonderful need for more unions in the U.S. The problem always is the union is pushing to spend YOUR money, not a companies.

No, I never belonged to the NEA union. At one school I was giving up some planning time to work with at-risk kids and apparently some teachers (union people) had a problem with that. They talked to me about it and I said it was my time and I was going to spend it how I wanted, helping kids. They wanted me to join the union and I said NO and in fact said I would quit education if I was forced to belong. The unions brainwash the teachers with fear of losing their jobs and getting harassed by administration if they don't belong.

I was on several negotiations teams at small schools where the union was rarely even mentioned and larger districts where the word UNION or NEA was used 14 times in every sentence. So one size does not fit all. We always found a way to make things work, its called tax money and there is only so much of it to go around. Also realize when the teachers negotiate they elect representatives to do their bidding and those people often are out for special groups like soon to retire teachers or coaches while boards want to spread money to everyone especially beginning teachers. So when you see the salary schedules, know the union had a big part in that. Don't blame the school, superintendent or board.

Yes, I have fought unions on their turf and by their rules and it was very difficult and time consuming. In fact, one school was so bad with so many rotten apples we told the area Union Rep we were going to reserved an office for him at our school. After about 6 months he came to see the light and actually spent resources and his time to help the staff figure out I and my assistant director weren't messing around.

Yes, there are great, good and bad teachers just like there are on your jobs. I assume everyone on this board is a top performer and never in the middle or at the bottom of their professions? I tried to hire good people, help those already there and fire those who were not good for kids.

I was blessed to work in a public school that some of the best educators I have ever witnessed collectively. It is no coincidence we earned every academic achievement award in the state over three years at the start of NCLB. We were consistently in the 90% and above pass rate and the requirement was less than a third of that. People flocked from all over to see what we were doing differently. They were sure it was a different book, technology, something - turns out it was really good teachers but not all of them, I supported them and had very high expectations, students worked very hard and the results showed. Most kids that went to college came back and said it was easier than HS and they were often bored. Many Dr's, attorney's and other professionals. So it can be done but it will kill a determined administrator now days to do it.

Take a school like Spartan teaches at, it is renowned for its student outcomes. It is private, not religious based. I know several private schools that have ACT scores that will knock your socks off.

I read all the reasons teachers are quitting, pressure from administration, burn out, parents, kids don't listen and a big one listed often is administration doesn't back them? What does that mean? I had teachers who had low numbers in their classes but sent a high percentage to the office for referrals. In other words, they couldn't manage a class so they kicked kids out and if I had a problem with just kicking them out all of the time, it was me not supporting them. Being a principal is the most demanding job I have ever done. It was always 6 days and nights a week, non stop with school or school activities but go ahead and say they are overpaid, too many of them, and they don't know anything that is why they became a principal plus all the other things that are said you really know nothing about.

The progressives have longed for many years to gain control of the system of educating our youth and they have succeeded. My personal opinion is we will never get it back. Kansas is a state that can trace great outcomes from their education system to the one room school house, one of which my wife attended up to 6th grade. Since then, it has been a steady decline and will only accelerate in my opinion. The destruction of the family, the focus on self, how do I feel surveys, no requirement to actually turn anything it, and it goes on an on and somehow everyone is surprised when a teacher can't turn some kids around and the teacher or administrator is the problem?

Very well put I couldn't agree more