In all honesty I think Thompson will be an upgrade over Martinez. But I'm not really sure why? Martinez was a turnover machine, he was not a clutch player, I think he was a great team mate and his players liked him. But obviously something wasn't right, poor line play, no running game and average wr play all contributed. My question is about Thompson. I have not seen a single play from his career at Texas and high school film is hard for me to judge. Is he going to change this **** show around? Is he the answer?
Casey Thompson vs Adrian Martinez
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It's not even a comparison. Thompson is 10x the qb AM ever was. All you need to see that is a single play from his Texas film. With that you can see a drastic difference in how fast he plays and processes a play compared to Martinez. Imo, Thompson was the best transfer qb in the class and I would have taken him over Caleb Williams. We hit the jackpot with Thompson.
I'd argue that he's FASTER than Martinez if you actually study his film and watch whenever he did run. The fact is that Sarks offense doesn't like to run the QB. That and Thompson prefers the pass over run. But don't be fooled - he comes from proven option running QB genetics. HUGE improvement over Martinez in the more critical aspects of playing qb.
And Martinez was a much better runner than McKenzie Milton too. The quarterback's main job is to throw the ball to other playmakers. I'm sick of seeing garbage numbers for a quarterback while other position groups languish. A good quarterback makes other players look good.
AM is a better runner.
Combine that ability with the difficulty he had in making basic throws and he was running far too often for a QB facing BIG defenses.
Which is why he was hurt about 90% of the time.
I'm hoping like hell that Thompson gets less than half the carries AM got.
Combine that ability with the difficulty he had in making basic throws and he was running far too often for a QB facing BIG defenses.
Which is why he was hurt about 90% of the time.
I'm hoping like hell that Thompson gets less than half the carries AM got.
I refuse to buy into any hype, but I do feel good about Thompson being an upgrade. He just seems like more of a QB. But we’ll see.
He can run, but not as good as Adrian and that's fact. Adrian lead all QBs in the conference in rushing yardage. Casey put in the same situation as Adrian has been put in wouldn't even come close to Adrian's rushing numbers and this is also a fact. Casey is the overall better QB because of his arm and he can run but if it came down to just rushing which now it won't Adrian wins that catagory hands down.
here's another fact: quarterbacks who lead their teams in rushing are a detriment. it is meaningless.
IMO, the best run adrian's ever made for Nebraska is the one that ended up with him in the middle of god forsaken kansas
Well let's put it this way and throw Smothers into the rushing end of things, there isn't anyone in that room that has anywhere near the speed he has period. Smothers was and is the best runner in that room. When all is said and done Smothers will be the number 2 guy behind Thompson.
Could be true. But that's what we have rbs for. Passing game nonexistent if you can't get the ball to the receiver. I don't want a statue for a QB but I don’t want my QB to be leading ball carrier every game either unless we're running the option every play and de or olb never taking the QB
Doesn't really matter when AM cannot HANG ONTO THE ******* BALL.
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why do you care about something (QB rushing totals) that has proven to hold teams back?
I hope Thompson doesn't run for a single yard this year.
Seeing the field, quick decisions, and hitting moving targets in stride are where I expect to see the biggest difference.
AM was all about the drawn out improv plays or hitting stationary targets.
Passing:
AM: 2020 4 TDs vs 3 INTs in 7 games
2021 14 TDs vs 10 INTs in 11 games
total: 1 TD per game vs .72 INTs per game
CT: 2020 6 TDs vs 0 INTs in 3 games
2021 24 TDs vs 9 INts in 12 games
total: 2 TDs per game vs .6 INTs per game
Then there was Adrian as a perennial leader in fumbles.
I know the version I prefer.
AM was all about the drawn out improv plays or hitting stationary targets.
Passing:
AM: 2020 4 TDs vs 3 INTs in 7 games
2021 14 TDs vs 10 INTs in 11 games
total: 1 TD per game vs .72 INTs per game
CT: 2020 6 TDs vs 0 INTs in 3 games
2021 24 TDs vs 9 INts in 12 games
total: 2 TDs per game vs .6 INTs per game
Then there was Adrian as a perennial leader in fumbles.
I know the version I prefer.
Who gives AF about AM's running statistics?!?!?Wins matter! He sucked beyond belief.
Any QB would've sucked beyond belief behind the absolute **** lines we've had the past few years period!
Thompson is not afraid to hold himself and others accountable. Martinez was mostly worried about Martinez.
I watched Casey Thompson's all plays 2021 cut on YouTube. You can tell he definitely goes through his progressions much faster and has overall better accuracy. Evades the rush well enough
But he definitely threw a number of balls to defenders. Many more passes could have been picked off that weren't and he threw his fair share.
My worry is we are going to struggle with turning the ball over once again this year. It's a totally different situation here at Nebraska but it's something I'll be watching closely game 1.
But he definitely threw a number of balls to defenders. Many more passes could have been picked off that weren't and he threw his fair share.
My worry is we are going to struggle with turning the ball over once again this year. It's a totally different situation here at Nebraska but it's something I'll be watching closely game 1.
At the Nike camp prior to his signing with us, Martinez clocked a blazing 4.79 40. Thompson reported a 4.55 on his HUDL page. So yeah, I think Thompson is faster. Martinez was not a fast QB period.
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He didn’t leave nearly fast enough, in my opinion
do you have an actual point besides the “the biggest loser in school history can kinda run fast”?
As I said in another post on here, any QB would look like beyond garbage playing behind the worst in school history trash lines we've had to suffer through the past few years.
I saw that you said that.
it's a dead wrong opinion, so I'm not sure I'd go spouting it around too much.
bryce young was both hurried and sacked more than AM last year en route to the Heisman & a national title appearance. plenty of quarterbacks would've done just fine in our offense.
adrian martinez did more to lose his team games than any athlete in the history of sports, including those who intentionally shaved points/threw games.
Come on Ding Dong, that is a hateful comparison and you know it.
Just go ahead and take it all the way, and get banned yet again.
It mystifies me how someone that seemingly has high intelligence can be so blindly angry at a college kid.
Trust me, it is neither healthy, nor normal.
if there's a college kid who successfully salted away 35+ games intentionally, I'd like to meet him
I know one thing - I'd rather have had a kid shaving points and producing AM's results than one who produced them while actually trying his hardest
or.... wait... do you really think Bryce Young would've AM-level sucked behind our line last year?
Bryce had a 1000x the line blocking for him than Adrian did here. Boy are you gonna be pissed if AM tears it up at KState and gets drafted. What are you gonna say then?
I am about as concerned with AM tearing it up at kstate & getting drafted (LOL this cannot be serious) as I am sprouting longhorns above my ears over night
Adrian’s inability to read a defense was a huge liability for our offensive line as it led to him holding the ball for longer than he should have
Kinda hard to do when he had absolute trash lines failing to protect his backside especially this last one which is the worst OL in DONU History. People can make all of the excuses they want but if you don't have a line that can block and protect you, any QB is gonna look and play like total *** and that is fact.