Willy Korn?

dinglefritz

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What's a "**** show" about Willie Korn?

Be specific.

The fact that some random dude posted about him on Twitter?
IF we hire Korn, he would likely be the QB coach as well as OC. Given how his QB at CC played this year, that would probably be an upgrade over Mario. Maybe we get CC's QB as a grad transfer then too.....
 

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Another little "Yes Man" for Frost. Can't have a solid proven OC that's better than you. A real CEO coach will hire great Coordinators.

Jamey Chadwell is the real OC for Coastal Carolina. Another Frost Failure.
You need to take about 25% off. Your schtick is worn out.
 

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IF we hire Korn, he would likely be the QB coach as well as OC. Given how his QB at CC played this year, that would probably be an upgrade over Mario. Maybe we get CC's QB as a grad transfer then too.....

He’s only a Freshman, eligibility wise.
 

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Another little "Yes Man" for Frost. Can't have a solid proven OC that's better than you. A real CEO coach will hire great Coordinators.

Jamey Chadwell is the real OC for Coastal Carolina. Another Frost Failure.
 

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With a name like that, it's meant to be. I believe he's considered a rising star in the coaching ranks, but I expected Frost to hire more of a known quantity.
In recent weeks, posts on here were clamouring to hire CC head coach. He got a new contract so why not hire the guy who knows and runs the offense and coaches the QB?
 

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I'm starting to think they are having a difficult time getting a replacement offensive staff together.

We should have had announcements already.

West Coast could end up being right.

Edit: I just saw the latest from Trev, sounds like he is blaming the 'changing landscape' and using some other language like that, so it would appear that they have had at least one party change direction on them.
 
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phoenix4nu

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I'm starting to think they are having a difficult time getting a replacement offensive staff together.

We should have had announcements already.

West Coast could end up being right.
If all else fails, they should be able to get Helfrich as OC.
 
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thinking they are wanting to make the announcement of all of the coaches at 1 time. some of them may be taking longer than others, just a thought.
 

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thinking they are wanting to make the announcement of all of the coaches at 1 time. some of them may be taking longer than others, just a thought.
Maybe, seems dumb to do that. The OC hire should've happened by now, no time to lose.
 

Laner2

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Maybe, seems dumb to do that. The OC hire should've happened by now, no time to lose.
Could be that there are some (maybe all) of the candidates have recruiting/coaching commitments to their current schools. Making the announcement now could be perceived as detrimental/unethical for the current schools. As an example, Mickey Joseph was recruiting for LSU last night, while an Oklahoma assistant who is going with Riley to USC is alleged to be trying to get OU recruits to go to USC.

Just a thought.
 

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Rumor is its both Korn & Isaac from CC. With the hope to nail down Joseph.

Time to crawl back in my hole for another few years.
 

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With a name like that, it's meant to be. I believe he's considered a rising star in the coaching ranks, but I expected Frost to hire more of a known quantity.
I'm still waiting for us to get Curt Ipromisetowinatleastelevengamesperseason.
 

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I'm starting to think they are having a difficult time getting a replacement offensive staff together.

We should have had announcements already.

West Coast could end up being right.

Edit: I just saw the latest from Trev, sounds like he is blaming the 'changing landscape' and using some other language like that, so it would appear that they have had at least one party change direction on them.
Rumor is its both Korn & Isaac from CC. With the hope to nail down Joseph.

Time to crawl back in my hole for another few years.
If that’s the case then still a numbers game. Need OL of course. So either don’t get a ST guy or someone else is gone
 

dinglefritz

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If that’s the case then still a numbers game. Need OL of course. So either don’t get a ST guy or someone else is gone
The right special teams analyst could do the job from the box instructing a grad student on the sideline. Our problem with special teams was mostly the guys putting their feet on the balls. Yes there was a break down in the block protection on that punt against Iowa. That was partly the blocking scheme and then the execution of what should have been an adjustment by our 3 back blockers. Our "directional" punt that cost us the MSU game was ALL on the punter. That kickoff return for a TD was almost all on the kicker. We HAVE to find a better punter and kicker or it won't matter who our ST guy is.
 
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leodisflowers

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OC is what it is, we need a splash OL coach. Someone who can make us better and nasty from day one. We improve that position even 25%, we are going to be a ton better on O. Special teams are the same way. Fix OT & ST, you probably fix NU's problem and can move to the next level and then focus how to get to the upper level again.
 

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If that’s the case then still a numbers game. Need OL of course. So either don’t get a ST guy or someone else is gone

Only so many ways to divide it to get a full-time ST coach, which I think we need.

OL/OC or RB/OC and Frost coaches QB’s
Beckton does WR/TE
Dawson is gone and Chin coaches OLB

There are a lot of TE/ST too, so could have Beckton coach WR’s and hire one of the those.
 

dinglefritz

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Rumor is its both Korn & Isaac from CC. With the hope to nail down Joseph.

Time to crawl back in my hole for another few years.
I've said all along that this OC hire will likely be a guy from a smaller program that nobody had heard of and that might not be a bad thing. We're not getting a guy like Tom Herman. He's going to get another head coaching job. Maybe if you paid Herman 2 million/year he would take it but he'll likely get that or more with a 5 year guarantee to be somebody's head coach.
 
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The right special teams analyst could do the job from the box instructing a grad student on the sideline. Our problem with special teams was mostly the guys putting their feet on the balls. Yes there was a break down in the block protection on that punt against Iowa. That was partly the blocking scheme and then the execution of what should have been an adjustment by our 3 back blockers. Our "directional" punt that cost us the MSU game was ALL on the punter. That kickoff return for a TD was almost all on the kicker. We HAVE to find a better punter and kicker or it won't matter who our ST guy is.
Getting a Punter and Kicker is the path to acceptable special teams play. If we want to have good special teams we are going to have to significantly improve punt and kick return as well. Both return units were awful this year.
 

dinglefritz

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Getting a Punter and Kicker is the path to acceptable special teams play. If we want to have good special teams we are going to have to significantly improve punt and kick return as well. Both return units were awful this year.
I watch too much college and NFL football. EVERY team has break downs in kick coverages. We had 2 back breaking break downs that killed us in close games this year and IMO they were both caused by the guy who put his foot on the ball. I thought overall our kick coverage was better than it's been during Frost's tenure.
 

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I've said all along that this OC hire will likely be a guy from a smaller program that nobody had heard of and that might not be a bad thing. We're not getting a guy like Tom Herman. He's going to get another head coaching job. Maybe if you paid Herman 2 million/year he would take it but he'll likely get that or more with a 5 year guarantee to be somebody's head coach.
Not necessarily true, dinglefritz.

Almost all contract offset language allows fired former HC's to accept lesser, coordinator roles & still receive their payout. If they're as bitter about their firing as Bobitch was, they may even step down to FCS to get that money. But a P5 coordinator role would be a great option (maybe not OUR OC, however).
 

dinglefritz

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Not necessarily true, dinglefritz.

Almost all contract offset language allows fired former HC's to accept lesser, coordinator roles & still receive their payout. If they're as bitter about their firing as Bobitch was, they may even step down to FCS to get that money. But a P5 coordinator role would be a great option (maybe not OUR OC, however)
What fired HC do you want as your OC? Mullen? That might be okay but the issue for NU is what seems to be a one year "prove it" deal that Frost just agreed to. Mullen and Herman both more than likely will hold out for a rehab job as either an OC at a place like Bama or a head coach job at a G5 school. There's still a lot of turnover coming IMO and those guys will bide their time rather than jump at NU's OC job. IF we could get Herman or Mullen as an OC I would do cartwheels.
 

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What fired HC do you want as your OC? Mullen? That might be okay but the issue for NU is what seems to be a one year "prove it" deal that Frost just agreed to. Mullen and Herman both more than likely will hold out for a rehab job as either an OC at a place like Bama or a head coach job at a G5 school. There's still a lot of turnover coming IMO and those guys will bide their time rather than jump at NU's OC job. IF we could get Herman or Mullen as an OC I would do cartwheels.
THIS year was my "prove it" year. How many more years do we need to say that 3-4 wins a year is unacceptable?
 

dinglefritz

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THIS year was my "prove it" year. How many more years do we need to say that 3-4 wins a year is unacceptable?
It kind of was mine too. That said, I'm hopeful that getting rid of Mario and Austin will fix our biggest issues. Then IF we can find a consistent punter and kicker we might be okay. I'm trying to look at his situation logically and unemotionally. I would have been okay if Trev had decided to move on but I also logically look at the finances and the changes and think this might be the most prudent choice. You can fix a lot of problems with a different coordinator.
 
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I watch too much college and NFL football. EVERY team has break downs in kick coverages. We had 2 back breaking break downs that killed us in close games this year and IMO they were both caused by the guy who put his foot on the ball. I thought overall our kick coverage was better than it's been during Frost's tenure.
Agreed on the kick/punt coverage, I’m not disagreeing there.

We need to find a kick and punt return unit that can help us in field position as well. Nebraska was straight up awful in fielding and returning punts and kicks.

My point is that simply getting a good punter and kicker won’t fix special teams. We need to improve dramatically on fielding and gaining yardage on kick and punt return
 

dinglefritz

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Agreed on the kick/punt coverage, I’m not disagreeing there.

We need to find a kick and punt return unit that can help us in field position as well. Nebraska was straight up awful in fielding and returning punts and kicks.

My point is that simply getting a good punter and kicker won’t fix special teams. We need to improve dramatically on fielding and gaining yardage on kick and punt return
We need a guy who can make the first guy miss on punt returns. CTB was that guy but he couldn't catch the ball and think at the same time. We always used to have a wing back or CB who could do it for Tom. Kickoffs have become a victim of the analytics with the new fair catch rules etc IMO. Why run it out when there are so many penalties on a return that stick you inside the 15?