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It means Trev got some good bites on the feelers he has put out and now they are getting buy in from boosters.

This is called conditioning. Preparing the masses for the inevitable. It's why the local beat writers suddenly went all in in Frost being gone. The University can tolerate criticism from journalists but some stuff is off limits and they can limit access to reporters and writers.

They (reporters) got the green light to start.

I give Frost a 10% chance of staying and that would involve not getting blown out by Ohio State, winning the last two, and Trev not getting his man.

Frost literally tried to drum up support for another year by asking for it to the press. Trev has already leveled with him and Frost knows it is up in the air. Frost has no one to blame but himself.

When he gets fired, people need to understand, it will NOT be a surprise to Frost or cloak and dagger. At this time Frost knows there is discussion. So when the Frost crowd start freaking out, please cling to something else.

Edit: Also, if Frost tries to pit former players or fans against the University, he is a piece of ****. Again, it is the University of Nebraska, not the University of Frost. All it does is prove he doesn't care about the University.
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I too have been pondering whether or not Trev might just force Frost to fire some staff as a condition of Frost’s continued employment. I have been trying to think of examples where this approach has worked out. I can‘t think of any. That doesn’t mean there aren’t any. My memory ain’t what it used to be.
When this happens, it is usually too little too late for a variety of reasons.

In our case, I think recruiting is in a free fall and the transfer portal looms ever larger.

I don't think overhauling Frost's staff will give a jolt to recruiting.

Also, get this...as bad as the impending transfers out of here could be? Think how bad they could be if we keep Frost but we get new assistants. The assistants are the ones the guys build a relationship with.

We are going to have a hard time finding assistants who are willing to uproot and move here for potentially just one year. Are they going to have time to build a relationship with the current team and prevent transfers? Probably not.

Some may say "Hey you are only looking at the negatives!" I have tried and tried to find a way...ANY way to make Frost staying work out and I can't.

Some may say "You said assistants can't build a relationship to prevent transfers this year, how can a new HC and staff do it?"

Well I doubt they can prevent all of them at this point, but a new Head Coach can bring a buzz. Can bring a magnetic personality. Can bring a energy. They can do this instantly if you get the right guy.


A lot of fans want to give him 5 years or more. But it seems recruits and the realities of being a head coach at a blue blood only gave him 3 years.
 

dinglefritz

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I too have been pondering whether or not Trev might just force Frost to fire some staff as a condition of Frost’s continued employment. I have been trying to think of examples where this approach has worked out. I can‘t think of any. That doesn’t mean there aren’t any. My memory ain’t what it used to be.
It sort of worked for Frank but he was a dead man walking with Pedie in the AD's chair. Those two didn't like each other when Pedie was Tom's recruiting coordinator.
 

dinglefritz

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I too have been pondering whether or not Trev might just force Frost to fire some staff as a condition of Frost’s continued employment. I have been trying to think of examples where this approach has worked out. I can‘t think of any. That doesn’t mean there aren’t any. My memory ain’t what it used to be.
It is a 20+ million dollar question that I don't have a sure answer to. While Frost is where the buck stops it might be possible to salvage this thing with staff changes. I really don't think Verdusco is helping the situation no matter how much Frost likes what the guy brings to the table. I kind of have to take people's word for the idea that Austin isn't getting the job done versus us having to play such young guys at OT. My whole deal is that I'll be patient and let a guy who is best qualified to make the decisions do just that. IF the money is quiet right now it's probably because they feel the same way. Most of the people getting upset and advocating to fire Frost before the season is over are being emotional and not logical. It's as if they're afraid Frost might do something in these last 3 games to earn another season. JMO.
 

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It is a 20+ million dollar question that I don't have a sure answer to. While Frost is where the buck stops it might be possible to salvage this thing with staff changes. I really don't think Verdusco is helping the situation no matter how much Frost likes what the guy brings to the table. I kind of have to take people's word for the idea that Austin isn't getting the job done versus us having to play such young guys at OT. My whole deal is that I'll be patient and let a guy who is best qualified to make the decisions do just that. IF the money is quiet right now it's probably because they feel the same way. Most of the people getting upset and advocating to fire Frost before the season is over are being emotional and not logical. It's as if they're afraid Frost might do something in these last 3 games to earn another season. JMO.
Austin was a great OL coach when Prochazka was healthy. Weird how that happens.
 

dinglefritz

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Austin was a great OL coach when Prochazka was healthy. Weird how that happens.
I will say that people expecting the pipeline to have been rebuilt by now are probably not using sound logic. That first class was a waste so that really makes Frost's recruits pretty young by O line standards still. I do think that by the time Benhart and Corcoran are seniors they'll be be pretty good. Prochazka is just a beast with outstanding length and strength. Teddy is an unusual talent who will play on Sundays assuming a complete recovery from the knee. I'll readily admit that I don't know enough about O line play to judge whether they're being coached well or not. The optics are not good though. Stai and every other former pipeline member I listened to when Frost was hired said it was going to take 5 years. I suspect they knew what they were talking about.
 

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I will say that people expecting the pipeline to have been rebuilt by now are probably not using sound logic. That first class was a waste so that really makes Frost's recruits pretty young by O line standards still. I do think that by the time Benhart and Corcoran are seniors they'll be be pretty good. Prochazka is just a beast with outstanding length and strength. Teddy is an unusual talent who will play on Sundays assuming a complete recovery from the knee. I'll readily admit that I don't know enough about O line play to judge whether they're being coached well or not. The optics are not good though. Stai and every other former pipeline member I listened to when Frost was hired said it was going to take 5 years. I suspect they knew what they were talking about.
Thanks for admitting you don't know enough about O line play to judge. LOL
Benhart will never be more than average under the current OL coach. He lacks flexibility, he is not aggressive in the least, and he has short arms for a tall man. He plays like a defensive offensive lineman.

Corcoran may develop into a really good guard. At LT he is and will likely be a liability matching up with the opponents top DE.

SF has chosen to go with really tall guys. Usually they will lack good feet. Teddy is likely to be a really powerful guy as he matures, cause I think he shows good aggressiveness as a true freshman.

No doubt Stai has the knowledge to make statements that may turn out to be true, but if NU keeps recruiting all these little puppy dogs to play in the OL, it will take a lot longer than 5 years under the current leadership.

Sicht is a good technician, but is slower than molasses. Nouilli might become a pretty decent offensive lineman, has aggressiveness but lacks quickness.

I'm not claiming to be an expert in OL, but there are physical characteristics that an outstanding OL needs, and most of our guys lack those characteristics.

Hixson would be much better at Center, and I think Cam would be kick *** as a OG. Cam is quick, strong, aggressive and is being wasted as a Center in this offense.

At any rate, until Austin is gone, this line is going to struggle. I'm amazed that NU has 20 OL and this is the best combination they can come up with.
 

dinglefritz

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Thanks for admitting you don't know enough about O line play to judge. LOL
Benhart will never be more than average under the current OL coach. He lacks flexibility, he is not aggressive in the least, and he has short arms for a tall man. He plays like a defensive offensive lineman.

Corcoran may develop into a really good guard. At LT he is and will likely be a liability matching up with the opponents top DE.

SF has chosen to go with really tall guys. Usually they will lack good feet. Teddy is likely to be a really powerful guy as he matures, cause I think he shows good aggressiveness as a true freshman.

No doubt Stai has the knowledge to make statements that may turn out to be true, but if NU keeps recruiting all these little puppy dogs to play in the OL, it will take a lot longer than 5 years under the current leadership.

Sicht is a good technician, but is slower than molasses. Nouilli might become a pretty decent offensive lineman, has aggressiveness but lacks quickness.

I'm not claiming to be an expert in OL, but there are physical characteristics that an outstanding OL needs, and most of our guys lack those characteristics.

Hixson would be much better at Center, and I think Cam would be kick *** as a OG. Cam is quick, strong, aggressive and is being wasted as a Center in this offense.

At any rate, until Austin is gone, this line is going to struggle. I'm amazed that NU has 20 OL and this is the best combination they can come up with.
Not being a smart ***. What are your qualifications to make those judgements on those players and Austin? You will note that I don't get in pissing matches with people about the O line because I don't know what most of these posters have on their resume. I do know that one very vocal critic of Austin is a high school position coach at a podunk high school. As I've posted many times, the O line looks bad at times and it appears to me that some of that at least is coaching. I don't think it helps when your starting OTs are as young as ours are. That isn't a recipe for a lot of success in the B1G when you're not landing high 4 and 5 star recruits.

I was a high school RB/CB decades ago. Never played in the O line. I love watching people break down O line play but it isn't something that TV focuses on and it isn't something that the vast majority of fans really have a clue about as far as technique and scheme.
 

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It may be indeed his way of indicating that no firm decision has yet been made in a definitive way to fire Frost. But his words do add fuel to the fire since it is clear that he is saying that there is a problem here. The fact is Carter did not have to say anything at all. He could have just remained silent. If he felt the need to say something given all of the controversy he could have just issued a simple statement that says "we are in the process of evaluating the football program as we do every year. No decision has yet been made about that evaluation. Thank you." And when he says that a decision will be made about the future of Nebraska football within the next few weeks it clearly indicates that a decision DOES need to be made one way or the other. In other words... he is acknowledging that there is a deep problem here that has to be addressed. He is legitimating the controversy not dousing it. And he is also clearly indicating that the decision to be made is going to be based on what happens in the rest of our season. That means ... hold on for it... Frost is coaching for his job right now. Win two of the next three and maybe he stays. Lose the next three and look bad in the process... then he is toast. Dingle I love you man, but you did the same thing at the end of the Riley era. To the bitter end you chastised the negative Nellies for being alarmists who were contributing nothing of value and so on. I admire your loyalty to whoever is the coach right now, but I place my loyalty in the program and the State, not to a coach. And Frost has been awful. You can spin this comment from Carter all you want as a statement designed to douse speculation. But unless Carter is a moron he had to know that such a comment would only increase speculation. To me, this statement therefore is not so much about dousing flames, as it is the first phase of prepping the fan base in slow increments for the changes that are coming.
totally making excellent sense.
 

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Not being a smart ***. What are your qualifications to make those judgements on those players and Austin? You will note that I don't get in pissing matches with people about the O line because I don't know what most of these posters have on their resume. I do know that one very vocal critic of Austin is a high school position coach at a podunk high school. As I've posted many times, the O line looks bad at times and it appears to me that some of that at least is coaching. I don't think it helps when your starting OTs are as young as ours are. That isn't a recipe for a lot of success in the B1G when you're not landing high 4 and 5 star recruits.

I was a high school RB/CB decades ago. Never played in the O line. I love watching people break down O line play but it isn't something that TV focuses on and it isn't something that the vast majority of fans really have a clue about as far as technique and scheme.
My judgement is evidence based on their performance and lack of improvement, and likely or unlikely future improvement.

3 of the 5 starting OL were 4* recruits out of high school.

And no, I wasn't a coach for some podunk high school.

In coaching, either you have it or you don't. You can either identify real talent or you can't.
 

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Not being a smart ***. What are your qualifications to make those judgements on those players and Austin? You will note that I don't get in pissing matches with people about the O line because I don't know what most of these posters have on their resume. I do know that one very vocal critic of Austin is a high school position coach at a podunk high school. As I've posted many times, the O line looks bad at times and it appears to me that some of that at least is coaching. I don't think it helps when your starting OTs are as young as ours are. That isn't a recipe for a lot of success in the B1G when you're not landing high 4 and 5 star recruits.

I was a high school RB/CB decades ago. Never played in the O line. I love watching people break down O line play but it isn't something that TV focuses on and it isn't something that the vast majority of fans really have a clue about as far as technique and scheme.
4 Years is plenty of time to at least put a competent online together. This staff has failed miserably.
 

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4 Years is plenty of time to at least put a competent online together. This staff has failed miserably.
I agree about the coach. The dismissal of the talent of the O linemen while then saying they're 4 star recruits so they should be good seems a little contradictory. The point was that he is no more qualified to judge the talent of those kids than I am. One thing I've learned over the last decade + on this board is that there are a lot of "experts" in Husker nation.
 

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My judgement is evidence based on their performance and lack of improvement, and likely or unlikely future improvement.

3 of the 5 starting OL were 4* recruits out of high school.

And no, I wasn't a coach for some podunk high school.

In coaching, either you have it or you don't. You can either identify real talent or you can't.
As I thought. You're no more qualified than me to pass judgement. My take is that our O line coaching hasn't been great and that we're too young at OT. Apparently somebody who DOES possess the requisite resume to judge our O line coach thinks we need a new one.
 

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I agree about the coach. The dismissal of the talent of the O linemen while then saying they're 4 star recruits so they should be good seems a little contradictory. The point was that he is no more qualified to judge the talent of those kids than I am. One thing I've learned over the last decade + on this board is that there are a lot of "experts" in Husker nation.
I get it. Just a frustrated Husker fan here. Like everyone else
 

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As I thought. You're no more qualified than me to pass judgement. My take is that our O line coaching hasn't been great and that we're too young at OT. Apparently somebody who DOES possess the requisite resume to judge our O line coach thinks we need a new one.
Of course I'm more qualified than you dingle.
 

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You know what that statement really says? Here is what he is really saying: “We have made a serious preliminary decision to fire coach Frost. Barring some miracle upsets in the next three weeks, coach Frost will be terminated.” All of that ******** about “no decision has been made” is just window dressing to keep players motivated and current recruiting commits strung along until a new coach is named.
window dressing yes, first part off center.
 

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I agree about the coach. The dismissal of the talent of the O linemen while then saying they're 4 star recruits so they should be good seems a little contradictory. The point was that he is no more qualified to judge the talent of those kids than I am. One thing I've learned over the last decade + on this board is that there are a lot of "experts" in Husker nation.
At no point did I say that since they were 4* that they should be good. I merely said we have 3 4* kids in the lineup, and 4 if you counted Teddy.

4* doesn't mean **** until its proven on the field.
 

dinglefritz

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If you don't count the multiple national and world championship tournaments I've been involved in, then yeah, I'm not an expert.
Football tournaments? Yeah right. I haven't seen one substantive post you've offered about the O line technique, scheme or play. You're a wannabe just like the rest of us.
 

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Football tournaments? Yeah right. I haven't seen one substantive post you've offered about the O line technique, scheme or play. You're a wannabe just like the rest of us.
I'm talking about their physical attributes. You don't make chicken salad out of chicken ****.
 

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As I thought. You're no more qualified than me to pass judgement. My take is that our O line coaching hasn't been great and that we're too young at OT. Apparently somebody who DOES possess the requisite resume to judge our O line coach thinks we need a new one.
So I identified that as a primary problem the first day I joined this board in September. I also said that day they needed to bench Benhart, and they did.

My suggesting they bench Benhart has zero to do with liking or not liking the kid. He's likely a nice young man, he just is out of his element at RT.

I also said that Piper should be replaced by Nouilli, and he was. My ability to identify problem areas is pretty clear as far as OL is concerned.

Again, I had nothing negative to say about Piper as a young man, he was just out of his element at LG. Doesn't mean he can't develop into a good LG in a couple years because he is a good athlete with good feet.

To me, it should have been obvious to anyone that these kids were going to be weak links in the entire offensive line. Clearly the OL coaches had to know. And if they don't, then they do now.
 

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So I identified that as a primary problem the first day I joined this board in September. I also said that day they needed to bench Benhart, and they did.

My suggesting they bench Benhart has zero to do with liking or not liking the kid. He's likely a nice young man, he just is out of his element at RT.

I also said that Piper should be replaced by Nouilli, and he was. My ability to identify problem areas is pretty clear as far as OL is concerned.

Again, I had nothing negative to say about Piper as a young man, he was just out of his element at LG. Doesn't mean he can't develop into a good LG in a couple years because he is a good athlete with good feet.

To me, it should have been obvious to anyone that these kids were going to be weak links in the entire offensive line. Clearly the OL coaches had to know. And if they don't, then they do now.
Both of those O line changes were pretty evident to the average fan. I don't think that qualifies as substantive O line input. Whatever. You're an expert.
 

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Both of those O line changes were pretty evident to the average fan. I don't think that qualifies as substantive O line input. Whatever. You're an expert.
Well, they can't run or pass block. Is that substantive enough for you? If they can't put their hands and pads on the defender then maybe they just can't play the position.

The bottom line is, when you're an offensive lineman and you can't run or pass block, you can't play.