Mel Tucker to LSU?
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The Big ten is not a destination conference for football. Tucker will take off and so will James Franklin. If I'm Ryan Day, I'd never leave.
Well, at least they will have turned it around...
We won't be stuck in a 3 win twilight zone any longer..
Good to see Jon Gruden back mentioned in every coaching search across all football leagues.
Not gonna lie, I have missed that.
Unless they are willing to pay $8m plus a year guaranteed for at least 6 years I wouldn't take that job if I was Mel!
LSU is firing a coach who just won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in January of 2020!! That's even worse than Nebraska firing TWO 9-3 coaches! They are full of themselves and more myopic than alot of our fans who thinks winners just grow on trees!
They would fire Mel in 2 years if he doesn't win a title..
LSU is firing a coach who just won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in January of 2020!! That's even worse than Nebraska firing TWO 9-3 coaches! They are full of themselves and more myopic than alot of our fans who thinks winners just grow on trees!
They would fire Mel in 2 years if he doesn't win a title..
I don’t think Orgeron was ever a head coach before this gig was he? I’m thinking that since Tucker has been, he will get more time. But who knows? I have been wrong so much lately, don’t take my word on anything.
I think Mel knows how to run a program. LSU people are familiar with him. We all knew Ed was kind of an accidental head coach. He could recruit, but he's not head coaching material, just like Scott Frost. Mel would be a recruiting dynamo in Louisiana, Texas and Florida.
he's 65-44 as a head coach.
if you remove his best and worst seasons, he's 47-36. that means his winning % is .566, whereas Pelini's is 0.645.
that is pretty unacceptable when LSU's recruiting rankings are:
2016: 2nd overall
2017: 7th overall
2018: 15th overall (they also got Joe Burrow in the transfer portal this year)
2019: 5th overall
2020: 4th overall
he's being fired for the same reason that Gene Chizik was fired in that he's clearly not the same without powerful coordinators running the x's and o's for him and possibly the greatest CFB team of all time in executing those plays.
I agree,I just don't know if the FANatics would appreciate that LSU has lost alot of players and that it may take a couple years to get the program back to Championship status.
IMO the worse place to go is to a place where their has been RECENT success at the highest level. I would much rather take a job where they haven't won in a while. A place like Michigan State he can stay at 4eva if he wins 8-9 games a year and competes for conference title every 4-5 years.
What is his RECORD at LSU?? The job of a HEAD COACH is to hire good assistants and delegate authority and be CEO of the whole program....NOT CALL PLAYS!
When is the last time a National Championship coach called offensive or defensive plays?? Saban, Dabo, Orgeron, Meyer didn't call plays for those titles. Their JOB is to be CEO....something Scott Frost doesn't understand
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Tucker is doing pretty well for himself considering that Cornicator told us all what a joke of a coach he was a couple years back.
Unfortunately Ed has put himself in some weird situations off the field. Those and the fact that he was at constant odds with admin helped to accelerate his demise.
it's pretty similar to Pelini's at Nebraska, I'm guessing you're one of those guys that loved getting boat-raced by Wisconsin and having rushing records set on us.
they are clearly trending down. he's 1-4 against Alabama, soon to be 1-5. his only win over Alabama was when he had statistically the greatest college football quarterback of all time at the helm, and even then it was a close game. he's also been completely shut out by Alabama twice. only Kent State, Mercer, and Southeastern Louisiana managed to be that bad against Alabama.
also, I never said call plays. but since what you said was so stupid, it has to be addressed. Dabo is heavily involved in the offense and game planning, Saban personally coaches DB's, and Meyer's offense has looked the same everywhere he's gone up until the last few years at Ohio State.
Orgeron is a career DL coach, a damn good one at that, that just doesn't have what it takes to be great year in, year out. they need more than someone who shouts "GO TIGAHS" in between mouthfuls of redbeans & rice. tremendous motivator that is decent when supplied with a bevy of talent, but still underperforming.
Can u please start naming the B10 coaches from the top level schools (or any schools) that willingly (not fired, or asked to resign) left the B10 for SEC or other non NFL job offers?
I cant think of a single one...In the past 20years.
In fact only two coaches have left the B10 for other conference jobs In the last 22 years, both In the same year 1999.
One was Nick Saban who left MSU for LSU.
The other Gary Barnett who left NW for the Colorado job, a place where he had coached before.
Sooooo ur premise seems wrong about the B10 not being a destination job...lol
But he should have been beat buy what I'm told is the worst football program in the history of ever
Bielema left a team that was regularly competing for Big 10 titles for a dumpster fire SEC job in Arkansas.
Dave Aranda took a lateral move to LSU as DC.
Joe Moorhead turned down Big 10 offers to take the HC job at Mississippi State.
Les Miles turned down his alma mater Michigan in 2011, and they were offering more money than LSU was paying him.
and yeah, Mel Tucker is probably about to be gone, too.
Wow, nothing says you have a crappy point when you have to start using assistant coaches to try prove your point...hahahhahds...I was talking about head coaches not assistant coaches.
Bielema left Wisky cuz he was 1-5 vs TOSU and he was 2-3 vs PSU he was not gonna beat those teams to win a B10 championship...so he left thinking it would be EASIER to do something in the SEC..LOL Thats not an upgrade, thats thinking it would be easier for success cuz he was getting his sh^t pushed in vs tOSU and in the B10 champ games..lol
Aranda was under the 2nd HC not even the coach that he came with and he is an asst coach we are not even talking about assistant coaches here.
Les Miles had just won a Natty at LSU in his third year..why on earth would a coach leave a team he built into a natty title winner and start all over again, even if it was his alma mater?
I love when you use the "shoulda, coulda, woulda" as an actual coaching move to try and prove your point...
Moorehead turned down Minny cuz he wasnt ready to leave PSU that year. for an HC gig.he took no job that year, the next year is when he took the Miss State job...lololol
Another reach by you...
Lordy...hahaha
Nice try though..
Lol
He left becuz he couldn't get kids in he wanted cuz of the Wiscinsin admissions standards..
He went to the PAC and to Ore st.. cuz it was easier to get kids accepted..aka a step down academically.
He didn't even take his buyout from Wisky..
Technically you're not wrong, but it seems pretty obvious that Joe Brady as "passing game coordinator" was far more important to them winning anything than coach O was. The year before Joe Brady and the year after Joe Brady help to prove that point.
But ur point was coaches were leaving cuz the b10 was a stepping stone league, the examples u gave did not support that the B10 was a stepping stone.
I guess u could make the case for Aranda as a step up, but again he is an assistent coach..
Now if u are talking Lower level B10 teams? Yeah those coaches will get better jobs:
Look at Franklin at PSU, he left an SEC school for a B10 school..would that make the SEC a stepping stone for the b10? Of course not, he went from a lower lvl SEC school to a bigger, better program In the B10.
I can point to Holtz leaving Minny for the ND job In 1984.
Barnett leaving NW for CU
And
Makovic leaving Illinois to go to Texas in 1991..
Those are all lower lvl B10 teams that coaches left to get upgraded jobs and that happens. But I wouldnt call that making the b10 a stepping stone league..cuz the big boy teams coaches (unless they are leaving for the NFL) are not leaving for similar jobs at other schools...uess there is some other issues at play..like In Bert Bilemas case..where he couldn't beat the upper echelon B10 teams..
Getting boat raced by Wisconsin??! Now we are getting beat by everybody in the conference year in and year out and are the laughingstock of the NATION!
Everyone OUTSIDE of the state of Nebraska knows our team is pathetic and most of them feel sorry for us. They didn't feel that way when Pelini was here. They liked when we lost, but now we're so bad that I don't even get ridiculed anymore. All they wanna know is why the hell Frost still the coach.
Our coach couldn't hold Orgeron clipboard!! Yet we pay him $5 million a year to be in the bottom 10% win percentage in all of Power 5 football! Yet you wanna criticize a coach who just won a Natty!
Yet klowns wanna still bring up WISCONSIN!