Mel Tucker to LSU?

[Husker_AMG63]

Technically you're not wrong, but it seems pretty obvious that Joe Brady as "passing game coordinator" was far more important to them winning anything than coach O was. The year before Joe Brady and the year after Joe Brady help to prove that point.

What you have to keep in mind is Orgeron had like 64 sholarship players available to him all of last season due to Covid and players who sat out. Then he had a bunch of dudes opt for the NFL after the season. He really had a rebuild to do BOTH with PLAYERS and COACHES.

Now look at Nebraska....NO SIT OUTS last year. No scholarship player lost due to Covid. Basically no 2 deep players missed games due to Covid. No juniors left early for the NFL and not only that.....had a bunch of 6th YEAR seniors come back.

Probably the most veteran team in the Big 10......what's our excuse??? I would luv if Orgeron came to Lincoln because I know his ego won't get in the way, he is a bug time recruiter and he will assemble a top notch staff and win the Big West at a high kevel.

 

[Bremser_rivals74172]

Unless they are willing to pay $8m plus a year guaranteed for at least 6 years I wouldn't take that job if I was Mel!

LSU is firing a coach who just won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in January of 2020!! That's even worse than Nebraska firing TWO 9-3 coaches! They are full of themselves and more myopic than alot of our fans who thinks winners just grow on trees!

They would fire Mel in 2 years if he doesn't win a title..

Ed’s firing has very little, if anything, to do with LSU’s current record. You’re a tad behind the Newscycle.

 

[glaciersx]

I like how you went from this:

Can u please start naming the B10 coaches from the top level schools (or any schools) that willingly (not fired, or asked to resign) left the B10 for SEC or other non NFL job offers? I cant think of a single one...In the past 20years. In fact only two coaches have left the B10 for other conference jobs In the last 22 years, both In the same year 1999.

to this desperate essay explaining why a plethora of Big 10 coaches left for other conference jobs lol

Wow, nothing says you have a crappy point when you have to start using assistant coaches to try prove your point...hahahhahds...I was talking about head coaches not assistant coaches.

Bielema left Wisky cuz he was 1-5 vs TOSU and he was 2-3 vs PSU he was not gonna beat those teams to win a B10 championship...so he left thinking it would be EASIER to do something in the SEC..LOL Thats not an upgrade, thats thinking it would be easier for success cuz he was getting his sh^t pushed in vs tOSU and in the B10 champ games..lol

Aranda was under the 2nd HC not even the coach that he came with and he is an asst coach we are not even talking about assistant coaches here.

Les Miles had just won a Natty at LSU in his third year..why on earth would a coach leave a team he built into a natty title winner and start all over again, even if it was his alma mater?
I love when you use the "shoulda, coulda, woulda" as an actual coaching move to try and prove your point...

Moorehead turned down Minny cuz he wasnt ready to leave PSU that year. for an HC gig.he took no job that year, the next year is when he took the Miss State job...lololol
Another reach by you...

Bielema left literally right after winning the Big 10, and the reason was because he felt that Wisconsin wasn't paying his assistants enough to retain them. and what kinda mental midget logic did you use to pretend he was afraid of Penn State so he wanted to join the conference of Alabama, Florida and Georgia?

you sound like a 14 year old girl writing Harry Potter fan-fiction with your made-up stories.

hope all that typing didn't make you miss the short bus.

better luck next time.

 

[glaciersx]

Getting boat raced by Wisconsin??! Now we are getting beat by everybody in the conference year in and year out and are the laughingstock of the NATION!

Everyone OUTSIDE of the state of Nebraska knows our team is pathetic and most of them feel sorry for us. They didn't feel that way when Pelini was here. They liked when we lost, but now we're so bad that I don't even get ridiculed anymore. All they wanna know is why the hell Frost still the coach.

Our coach couldn't hold Orgeron clipboard!! Yet we pay him $5 million a year to be in the bottom 10% win percentage in all of Power 5 football! Yet you wanna criticize a coach who just won a Natty!

Yet klowns wanna still bring up WISCONSIN!

control your emotions, grandpa.

the reality is, nobody thinks about us as much as we want to pretend they do. do you sit around and think about Tennessee and laugh at their misfortune or do you not really care? you might've thought about them a little bit when they were getting boat-raced by Alabama on national TV, but if they started keeping it close you'd probably think "hmm, maybe they're getting better."

who am I kidding, you'd have to be a rational to think like that.

also, not buying that someone who can't spell clown drives an expensive Mercedes. weird flex, bro.

 

[Boiler_B]

I like how you went from this:


to this desperate essay explaining why a plethora of Big 10 coaches left for other conference jobs lol


Bielema left literally right after winning the Big 10, and the reason was because he felt that Wisconsin wasn't paying his assistants enough to retain them. and what kinda mental midget logic did you use to pretend he was afraid of Penn State so he wanted to join the conference of Alabama, Florida and Georgia?

you sound like a 14 year old girl writing Harry Potter fan-fiction with your made-up stories.

hope all that typing didn't make you miss the short bus.

better luck next time.

Lol

So james frankin leaving Vandy for PSU makes the SEC a stepping stone conference right?

Nope..lol

You lost. U tried to use assistant coaches (lol) to change thr argument cuz ur point was pathetic..

Nice try though..

 

[Kakdawg]

Does that guy even unpack?

He's a rolling stone for sure . That said I think he would absolutely kill it at LSU!


Holla

 

[glaciersx]

Lol

So james frankin leaving Vandy for PSU makes the SEC a stepping stone conference right?

Nope..lol

You lost. U tried to use assistant coaches (lol) to change thr argument cuz ur point was pathetic..

Nice try though..

nope, first you need to address the fact you were wrong about there only being 2 coaches to leave Big 10 for other conferences in the past 20 years. then we can get on to the rest of your fan-fiction

nobody agrees with you, we're all collectively embarrassed for your shifting of the goalposts and your need to put "lol" at the end of everything makes it obvious you're embarrassed too

I'd say nice try, but its bad practice to say things you know to be untrue.

 

[Boiler_B]

nope, first you need to address the fact you were wrong about there only being 2 coaches to leave Big 10 for other conferences in the past 20 years. then we can get on to the rest of your fan-fiction

nobody agrees with you, we're all collectively embarrassed for your shifting of the goalposts and your need to put "lol" at the end of everything makes it obvious you're embarrassed too

I'd say nice try, but its bad practice to say things you know to be untrue.

While I said only two I missed a few, those coaches that left the only ones that were stepping stone ones were the coaches from the lower tier b10 schools. The other coaches that left were for other reasons like Bielema getimn his butt kicked.

Just like Franklin leaving Vandy for a B10 school doesn't mean the SEC isn't a stepping stone to the B10..
That would be absurd right?

Ur whole premise was that the b10 was a stepping stone league which is false. Especially not for head coaches at upper tier teams.

All the lower tier teams in any of the major conferences will have coaches leaving there for greener pastures if they are good enough..and yes the mighty SEC has had lower tier coaches leave for better programs as well.

 

[phoenix4nu]

While I said only two I missed a few, those coaches that left the only ones that were stepping stone ones were the coaches from the lower tier b10 schools. The other coaches that left were for other reasons like Bielema getimn his butt kicked.

Just like Franklin leaving Vandy for a B10 school doesn't mean the SEC isn't a stepping stone to the B10..
That would be absurd right?

Ur whole premise was that the b10 was a stepping stone league which is false. Especially not for head coaches at upper tier teams.

All the lower tier teams in any of the major conferences will have coaches leaving there for greener pastures if they are good enough..and yes the mighty SEC has had lower tier coaches leave for better programs as well.

Lol.

 

[glaciersx]

While I said only two I missed a few

thank you for admitting you were wrong.

Ur whole premise was that the b10 was a stepping stone league which is false. Especially not for head coaches at upper tier teams.

never said that once, you're arguing with the wrong person. I said Nebraska is in danger of becoming a stepping stone, but I hope they don't.

to be fair, college football in general is probably a stepping stone for Mel Tucker. he was a DC/AHC in the NFL for many years, and I imagine he'll be getting calls from the NFL as well as prominent SEC teams which are simply better jobs than Michigan State.

 

[Anon1727835823]

Probably the most veteran team in the Big 10......what's our excuse??? I would luv if Orgeron came to Lincoln because I know his ego won't get in the way, he is a bug time recruiter and he will assemble a top notch staff and win the Big West at a high kevel.

I think Illinois leads the nation in Super Seniors. That was a huge storyline that week.

 

[RedBaloneyPony]

Can u please start naming the B10 coaches from the top level schools (or any schools) that willingly (not fired, or asked to resign) left the B10 for SEC or other non NFL job offers?

I cant think of a single one...In the past 20years.

In fact only two coaches have left the B10 for other conference jobs In the last 22 years, both In the same year 1999.

One was Nick Saban who left MSU for LSU.

The other Gary Barnett who left NW for the Colorado job, a place where he had coached before.

Sooooo ur premise seems wrong about the B10 not being a destination job...lol

dont forget about Bert to hog nation

 

[Boiler_B]

dont forget about Bert to hog nation

True, but Bert left cuz he was 1-5 vs tosu and 2-3 vs Penn State and he knew he had little shot of beating those teams or winning a conf championship..he thought going to the SEC would be easier for him to win..lol

So I wouldn't exactly call that using Wisky as a stepping stone, that's more like a running for cover type of deal.

Now we have seen coaches at lower level teams inthe B10 go to bigger names In other leagues...but it doesn't mean it's a stepping stone league.

Just like Franklin from SEC Vandy, to PSU, we are not gonna call the SEC a stepping stone league right?

Gary Anderson also left wisky for Oregon State, but that was becuz he was having a hard time getting some of his recruits qualified cuz of the academic standards at wisky..I wouldn't call that a stepping stone move either, for obvious reasons.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

True, but Bert left cuz he was 1-5 vs tosu and 2-3 vs Penn State and he knew he had little shot of beating those teams or winning a conf championship..he thought going to the SEC would be easier for him to win..lol

So I wouldn't exactly call that using Wisky as a stepping stone, that's more like a running for cover type of deal.

Now we have seen coaches at lower level teams inthe B10 go to bigger names In other leagues...but it doesn't mean it's a stepping stone league.

Just like Franklin from SEC Vandy, to PSU, we are not gonna call the SEC a stepping stone league right?

Gary Anderson also left wisky for Oregon State, but that was becuz he was having a hard time getting some of his recruits qualified cuz of the academic standards at wisky..I wouldn't call that a stepping stone move either, for obvious reasons.

Do you know how dumb you look saying BB left Wisconsin because he had no shot of beating PSU or Ohio St and in the same sentence claim the Arkansas job would be easier facing Alabama, LSU, and Auburn? I've read some stupid sh*t on here, but that is way up there on the list....

 

[Boiler_B]

Do you know how dumb you look saying BB left Wisconsin because he had no shot of beating PSU or Ohio St and in the same sentence claim the Arkansas job would be easier facing Alabama, LSU, and Auburn? I've read some stupid sh*t on here, but that is way up there on the list....

"The potential for future success is much greater at Arkansas, than moving forward in Madison"

https://syndication.bleacherreport....n-why-bret-bielema-left-for-arkansas.amp.html

Bielema hit his ceiling at Wisky and wasnt going to win conf championships.

So what would u call it, when he moved to Arky? You don't think HE thought he could potentially win more in the much more fertile recruiting grounds?

Why do YOU think he left Wisky at the height of his success there for what would be considered a down grade job? Cuz he thought he would win less?

Lolololol

 

[SuperBigFan]

"The potential for future success is much greater at Arkansas, than moving forward in Madison"

https://syndication.bleacherreport....n-why-bret-bielema-left-for-arkansas.amp.html

Bielema hit his ceiling at Wisky and wasnt going to win conf championships.

So what would u call it, when he moved to Arky? You don't think HE thought he could potentially win more in the much more fertile recruiting grounds?

Why do YOU think he left Wisky at the height of his success there for what would be considered a down grade job? Cuz he thought he would win less?

Lolololol

Because he hated Barry and because he could cash in more at Ark.

None of this is hard to understand.

 

[Boiler_B]

Because he hated Barry and because he could cash in more at Ark.

None of this is hard to understand.

So 1-5 vs tosu and 2-3 vs osu with no hope of winning a b10 championship probably played no factor at all huh?
Lol

Sure...

Hahaaha

 

[schuele]

So 1-5 vs tosu and 2-3 vs osu with no hope of winning a b10 championship probably played no factor at all huh?
Lol

Sure...

Hahaaha

You do realize Bielema had been to the Rose Bowl two of his last three seasons at Wisconsin? Strange that spending that much time in Pasadena would cause a coach to say to himself, "Gee golly, this rough tough Big Ten is just too difficult - I'm going to the SEC where I can win more easily!"

This thread is a good warmup for basketball season, when ever-faithful Big Ten toadies can once again proclaim how it's the greatest conference in the history of conferences. Then when the BIG lays a great big egg in March (again), it will be because the conference schedule was such a brutal meat grinder.

 

[SuperBigFan]

So 1-5 vs tosu and 2-3 vs osu with no hope of winning a b10 championship probably played no factor at all huh?
Lol

Sure...

Hahaaha

Didn't he win a big 10 championship?

 

[schuele]

Didn't he win a big 10 championship?

He went to two Rose Bowls, where he lost to TCU (then in the Mountain West) and Oregon.

So if Bert was afraid to continue coaching in the Mighty Mighty Big Ten, the thought of going to the MWC or Pac 12 must have been positively terrifying. So no wonder he took the easy way out and moved to the SEC.

 

[RedBaloneyPony]

"The potential for future success is much greater at Arkansas, than moving forward in Madison"

https://syndication.bleacherreport....n-why-bret-bielema-left-for-arkansas.amp.html

Bielema hit his ceiling at Wisky and wasnt going to win conf championships.

So what would u call it, when he moved to Arky? You don't think HE thought he could potentially win more in the much more fertile recruiting grounds?

Why do YOU think he left Wisky at the height of his success there for what would be considered a down grade job? Cuz he thought he would win less?

Lolololol

Im guessing the chicks are hotter in Arkansas than Wisconsin, while both are typically inbred, hotter is better.

 

[ivan brunetti]

Unless they are willing to pay $8m plus a year guaranteed for at least 6 years I wouldn't take that job if I was Mel!

LSU is firing a coach who just won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in January of 2020!! That's even worse than Nebraska firing TWO 9-3 coaches! They are full of themselves and more myopic than alot of our fans who thinks winners just grow on trees!

They would fire Mel in 2 years if he doesn't win a title..

Coach O was only as good as his coordinators. After his excellent coordinators jumped ship post NC, he failed to replace them with quality hires. He was a nice guy but he spent more time chasing tail and getter smashed than developing players.

Mel Tucker will have no problem being a better coach than Orgeron.

 

[Wasker77]

A lot of smoke

I maybe the only one who thinks this way but I am not ready yet to anoint Tucker a a great coach. He could be. I don't have anything against him. I just don't know yet. He was 5-7 in his one and only year at CU. He was 2-5 last year during that crazy covid effected season at MSU. His second year in row where he was coaching at a school for the first time. Now this year at MSU he is 7-0. I question is this a large enough sample size to know if Tucker is a great coach? I am just not sure yet. The Huskers played them the toughest so far. Their schedule has been fairly easy. So far the teams MSU has already defeated have a combined record of 16-26. Let's see how MSU does with Michigan (Will the Wolverines choke, again?) Purdue, Maryland, Ohio State and Penn State and their combined record of 23-6.

 

[schuele]

I maybe the only one who thinks this way but I am not ready yet to anoint Tucker a a great coach. He could be. I don't have anything against him. I just don't know yet. He was 5-7 in his one and only year at CU. He was 2-5 last year during that crazy covid effected season at MSU. His second year in row where he was coaching at a school for the first time. Now this year at MSU he is 7-0. I question is this a large enough sample size to know if Tucker is a great coach? I am just not sure yet. The Huskers played them the toughest so far. Their schedule has been fairly easy. So far the teams MSU has already defeated have a combined record of 16-26. Let's see how MSU does with Michigan (Will the Wolverines choke, again?) Purdue, Maryland, Ohio State and Penn State and their combined record of 23-6.

I think Tucker's a pretty good coach, but the toughest opponent MSU has faced this year is Nebraska.

Let that sink in.

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

Mike Riley was 7-0 in his second year at Nebraska.

I maybe the only one who thinks this way but I am not ready yet to anoint Tucker a a great coach. He could be. I don't have anything against him. I just don't know yet. He was 5-7 in his one and only year at CU. He was 2-5 last year during that crazy covid effected season at MSU. His second year in row where he was coaching at a school for the first time. Now this year at MSU he is 7-0. I question is this a large enough sample size to know if Tucker is a great coach? I am just not sure yet. The Huskers played them the toughest so far. Their schedule has been fairly easy. So far the teams MSU has already defeated have a combined record of 16-26. Let's see how MSU does with Michigan (Will the Wolverines choke, again?) Purdue, Maryland, Ohio State and Penn State and their combined record of 23-6.

 

[ivan brunetti]

I maybe the only one who thinks this way but I am not ready yet to anoint Tucker a a great coach. He could be. I don't have anything against him. I just don't know yet. He was 5-7 in his one and only year at CU. He was 2-5 last year during that crazy covid effected season at MSU. His second year in row where he was coaching at a school for the first time. Now this year at MSU he is 7-0. I question is this a large enough sample size to know if Tucker is a great coach? I am just not sure yet. The Huskers played them the toughest so far. Their schedule has been fairly easy. So far the teams MSU has already defeated have a combined record of 16-26. Let's see how MSU does with Michigan (Will the Wolverines choke, again?) Purdue, Maryland, Ohio State and Penn State and their combined record of 23-6.

Every new hire is a gamble. Coaches that are proven to be "really great coaches" are not likely to be looking to move. Most hires are up and comers. And again, every hire is a gamble (see: Saban at Miami).

 

[NebChicago]

Mike Riley was 7-0 in his second year at Nebraska.

That was a wacky adventure

 

[Husker_AMG63]

Coach O was only as good as his coordinators. After his excellent coordinators jumped ship post NC, he failed to replace them with quality hires. He was a nice guy but he spent more time chasing tail and getter smashed than developing players.

Mel Tucker will have no problem being a better coach than Orgeron.

I agree he is a better head coach than Orgeron, but some of these FANatics/Administrators of programs and media of those schools are unrealistic and unappreciative. They don't understand how hard it is to consistently win on a year in year out basis. Hell we fired 2 ,coaches who average 9+ wins a year and look where we are at now because of it.

Orgeron just won a Natty last year and that alone should have bought him 5 years absent a scandal. The BEST Tuck can do is what Org did.....

 

[Mystery Big Red Man]

Because he hated Barry and because he could cash in more at Ark.

None of this is hard to understand.

You all can rag on him but he dropped a quote from the man and you guys dropped nothing but insults.

 

[SuperBigFan]

You all can rag on him but he dropped a quote from the man and you guys dropped nothing but insults.

Rule one: Stop thinking that everything coaches say is true.
Rule two: Look at rule one again.

 

[Mystery Big Red Man]

Rule one: Stop thinking that everything coaches say is true.
Rule two: Look at rule one again.

That's true. He is telling Arkansas fans what they want to hear. However, if I take a step back, what he said about Bret is very likely true.

Wisconsin has some pretty severe limitations. One is Wisconsin is much farther away than recruits than Arkansas. It is just much easier to get those southern recruits to Arkansas than Wisconsin.

I think Wisconsin's success is incredible because of that alone and other reasons.

Arkansas is in a much tougher conference but the ceiling is higher.

We all saw how that ended. But discounting what Boiler said when we can see where he is coming from and he included a quote. C'mon man.

The crowd that is done with Scott Frost has been too civil. We are not in the minority.