Wandale vs Betts

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I don't think Wandale would not have made that 85 yd. TD run. He would have been caught from behind.

With Wandale gone the backfield and receiver corps got better. Less dependency on 1 player and the ball gets spread around more.

I will also take Toure over Wandale.
 

DrAlan_Grant

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Wandale may be more complete (atm). Pretty clear imo that Betts is faster and I'm high on. him.

Cam we move on from Wandale already?
 

InMotion

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Who ya got? That's a mystery..
Hmm, let's see... a quitter or a Nebraska football player..
This guy's name and all other quitters need no mention anymore. Please. Thx.
 

HuskerAlum92

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We are better without Wandale because it forced Frost to come up with something other than smash the little guy between the tackles. I’m afraid if he was still here, Frost would still be doing that.
 

TFrazier_rivals269992

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I will go with either Betts and Toure since they are actually on the team.

 
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Betts is the highest ranked skill player Frost has recruited by far

I’m not sure if it’s just because he’s local that more wasn’t made of it, but he’s been an NFL guy basically since his jr year at bell west
 

artguy68

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Do people realize that Wan'Dale wasn't traded for Betts or Toure?

It is great to see all the excitement, but Wan'Dale is Kentucky's top WR, and Kentucky is 5-0 after just defeating #10 Florida. Yeah, I am quite sure he has no regrets transferring.
 

bama_husker

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Who ya got?

I don't think Wandale would not have made that 85 yd. TD run. He would have been caught from behind.

With Wandale gone the backfield and receiver corps got better. Less dependency on 1 player and the ball gets spread around more.

I will also take Toure over Wandale.
Apples and oranges. And hopefully we don't put Betts at RB.
 

Husker_AMG63

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I don't see the comparison...2 different types of players. It's better that he is NOT here because he wasn't being used right (like he is at KY).

If he was still here it would have hindered the development of players that's out there now because Frost would have kept forcing him the ball and NOT TRUSTING other players!

I've said it over and over, we HAVE NFL TALENT, HAD NFL TALENT.....you just got to DEVELOP AND USE THE DAMN NFL TALENT and don't play and coach SCARED!
 

SLOHusker

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Who ya got?

I don't think Wandale would not have made that 85 yd. TD run. He would have been caught from behind.

With Wandale gone the backfield and receiver corps got better. Less dependency on 1 player and the ball gets spread around more.

I will also take Toure over Wandale.
Betts. If ever we play Lilliputian St I'll rethink my answer.
 

steinek11

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Who ya got?

I don't think Wandale would not have made that 85 yd. TD run. He would have been caught from behind.

With Wandale gone the backfield and receiver corps got better. Less dependency on 1 player and the ball gets spread around more.

I will also take Toure over Wandale.
Here's a thoughtful question. If Wandale is in the backfield last night, does he get similar production to Yant?

Does he stretch the field like Toure?

No and no. He's a gadget player that can make a few guys miss. Frost made too much of him to the detriment of other players like Betts
 

Mack In Motion

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Here's a thoughtful question. If Wandale is in the backfield last night, does he get similar production to Yant?

Does he stretch the field like Toure?

No and no. He's a gadget player that can make a few guys miss. Frost made too much of him to the detriment of other players like Betts
Yep. This.

Touches per game so far this season:

5,8,8,8,4

But he has a big play each game. Kentucky is using him appropriately. He's not a 20 touch guy.
 

Hford

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Betts is the superior talent. If our coaches figure out that a 6-4 WR in one on one coverage is always open in the college game we will really have something.
 
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Betts is the highest ranked skill player Frost has recruited by far

I’m not sure if it’s just because he’s local that more wasn’t made of it, but he’s been an NFL guy basically since his jr year at bell west
I think it was his grades situation that kept a lot of school at bay.
 

Sinomatic

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Wish the kid the best and to be happy. He represented well while he was here. Not sure if someone his size can make it in the NFL. Might as well be happy playing while you can.
 
Aug 18, 2016
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Do people realize that Wan'Dale wasn't traded for Betts or Toure?

It is great to see all the excitement, but Wan'Dale is Kentucky's top WR, and Kentucky is 5-0 after just defeating #10 Florida. Yeah, I am quite sure he has no regrets transferring.
This. I don’t get the sentiment that Frost would still be running the same plays if Robinson was still here. As if Robinson was controlling Frost’s mind.

he would just be another weapon
 

HuskerAlum92

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This. I don’t get the sentiment that Frost would still be running the same plays if Robinson was still here. As if Robinson was controlling Frost’s mind.

he would just be another weapon
I am not so sure. There was criticism from Wandale’s family for how he was used after his freshman season. And when Frost did the very same thing his second season, he transferred.
 
Aug 18, 2016
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I am not so sure. There was criticism from Wandale’s family for how he was used after his freshman season. And when Frost did the very same thing his second season, he transferred.
So you agree then that the Robinson's weren't controlling the number of touches, where he played or that he ran the ball between the tackles?

He appears to be happy at Kentucky with limited touches and a nice ypc average. So why, if he had stayed, and Frost has the weapons he has now, would he be anything more than an additional weapon?
 
Nov 28, 2016
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Who ya got?

I don't think Wandale would not have made that 85 yd. TD run. He would have been caught from behind.

With Wandale gone the backfield and receiver corps got better. Less dependency on 1 player and the ball gets spread around more.

I will also take Toure over Wandale.
Reminded me of the run Mo Washington had at Colorado.
 

99_BoothBalloons

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Wandale is not a good player to have your entire offense revolve around, as it did during his time here. You just don’t break out into open space much when the defense is keyed in on you.

He is a tremendous player when he has talent surrounding him, as he would this year with us. It’s too bad he’s gone but oh well, we have playmakers. The line has been the problem.
 

Hail Varsity

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Who ya got?

I don't think Wandale would not have made that 85 yd. TD run. He would have been caught from behind.

With Wandale gone the backfield and receiver corps got better. Less dependency on 1 player and the ball gets spread around more.

I will also take Toure over Wandale.
It's not either/or. They have different skills and are vasty different athletes.

I think Wandale was more mature and ready to play early. He isn't nearly as fast, but is quicker and makes people miss in space. Betts has more straight ahead speed.

I am disappointed that Wandale left, but he's playing very well for Kentucky against SEC competition. It may turn out to be the right thing for both Nebraska and Robinson.
 

HuskerAlum92

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So you agree then that the Robinson's weren't controlling the number of touches, where he played or that he ran the ball between the tackles?

He appears to be happy at Kentucky with limited touches and a nice ypc average. So why, if he had stayed, and Frost has the weapons he has now, would he be anything more than an additional weapon?
The Robinson’s exercised the only control they had, which was to transfer. I think up until maybe just now, Frost’s stubbornness has been costing the team. If Wandale was still here, Frost would still be featuring him. Which isn’t wrong because he is a great college player. But we wouldn’t have as many game highlights for other skill players, so what we have in some of them may not have been obvious.

I am still a bit skeptical of Frost’s ability both to recognize who the best game day players are, and his willingness to let them play despite imperfect practice.
 
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The Robinson’s exercised the only control they had, which was to transfer. I think up until maybe just now, Frost’s stubbornness has been costing the team. If Wandale was still here, Frost would still be featuring him. Which isn’t wrong because he is a great college player. But we wouldn’t have as many game highlights for other skill players, so what we have in some of them may not have been obvious.

I am still a bit skeptical of Frost’s ability both to recognize who the best game day players are, and his willingness to let them play despite imperfect practice.
What proof do you have that Frost would still be featuring him? There were no other options last year.
 
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Proof? This is a fan message board, not a math class. But I would offer the year before as more evidence.
But you are writing it as if it were fact.

The year before Spielman had more receptions.

From 2020 to 2021 his rushes per game dropped almost 3 carries per game he went from almost 9 per to almost 6 per.
 
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HikingHusker

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Who ya got?

I don't think Wandale would not have made that 85 yd. TD run. He would have been caught from behind.

With Wandale gone the backfield and receiver corps got better. Less dependency on 1 player and the ball gets spread around more.

I will also take Toure over Wandale.
The simplest answer is Betts, as he is actually on the team. That said, we would no doubt be a better team if Wandale was, and wanted to be, at Nebraska.

The dude is a stud. There has been a lot of hate on this board about his abilities and how he would hold up in the SEC. Through 5 games he has proven the haters wrong, leading a 5-0 Kentucky in receiving and a big win over Florida, who a few weeks ago went toe to toe with Alabama.

At the end of the day, Wandale left and based on his success this year, made the best decision for himself. As a fan base we need to get over that and realize we have a lot of talent on this team that we should be proud of and cheer on. Here's to hoping they show out this weekend for a big win.

GBR
 

inWV

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It would be nice to have him, as opposing Ds would have to account for his presence. But Toure has been a revelation and multiple receivers are getting auditions on those option plays. The "multiple" in Frost's offense has finally arrived.
 

Wyldcard

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Do people realize that Wan'Dale wasn't traded for Betts or Toure?

It is great to see all the excitement, but Wan'Dale is Kentucky's top WR, and Kentucky is 5-0 after just defeating #10 Florida. Yeah, I am quite sure he has no regrets transferring.
Wan'Dale only had 1 big play in that game as the rest of the game he was completely shut down, if that tells you anything.
 

glaciersx

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i wish yall's obsession with players that transferred away would come to an end. never seen another fanbase so weirdly invested in dudes that literally flipped the bird to the program.

do you keep up with your ex's new boyfriend too?
 

HikingHusker

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Betts just took an option pitch 83 yards to the barn after motioning to RB, so.......?
And he simply ran in a straight line, same as his big play last year. Dude has raw talent to be very good and has an NFL type build, but have you watched how he moves, or doesn't move, in traffic.
 

HikingHusker

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Wan'Dale only had 1 big play in that game as the rest of the game he was completely shut down, if that tells you anything.
Kentucky had 224 total yards and only 87 passing yards, 65 of those and a TD going to Wandale. Pretty impressive that they pulled off the upset with that type of offensive output, but also tells me that "1 big play" was pretty important.
 

Suhrreal

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And he simply ran in a straight line, same as his big play last year. Dude has raw talent to be very good and has an NFL type build, but have you watched how he moves, or doesn't move, in traffic.

He has something Wandale does not have and that is top end speed to stress a defense vertically. Combine that with his frame and you have a lot of potential upside. His hands seem to be very good as well. Can't complain about what he's shown thus far.
 

HikingHusker

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He has something Wandale does not have and that is top end speed to stress a defense vertically. Combine that with his frame and you have a lot of potential upside. His hands seem to be very good as well. Can't complain about what he's shown thus far.
Certainly can't complain. Loved the deep shot AM took when he was one on one. Also, I think in AM's post game interview he mentioned they setup the option play during half time and Frost specifically picked Betts to be the guy.


Random side note.... how did Northwestern come into this game unprepared for the option? Very strange for a typically well coached team.