OT - Gas Prices

nick614

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Oh stop, let’s not pretend Trump was anything more than a god awful president just because we went to another awful president.
I would take a egotistical loud mouth that doesnt completely f* everything up over a senile incompetent pervert.
 

ScarletNCream

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This thread already covers why every part of your post is 100% wrong, give it a read if you want.

No, his point is still largely accurate. US oil production is high enough that it can cause slight changes in the end of the day cost of gas but really not much
 

ScarletNCream

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I would take a egotistical loud mouth that doesnt completely f* everything up over a senile incompetent pervert.

I mean I would too, but instead we got an egotistical loudmouth who did **** everything up and was incredibly embarrassing while doing so.
 
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No, his point is still largely accurate. US oil production is high enough that it can cause slight changes in the end of the day cost of gas but really not much
Supply and demand. When supply exceeds demand the price goes down. When demand exceeds the supply the price goes up. This is simple economics. If the US produced enough oil to be energy independent (as we were for a while under Trump), the price of oil will go down. This happens for two reasons:

1- what I just explained above
2- the OPEC nations will increase production (more supply) in an effort to undercut the more expensive oil production methods sometimes employed in the US (fracking, for example).

With Biden killing some avenues of oil production/transportation in our country we are once again largely at the mercy of the OPEC nations to supply us with oil. The current price of oil today is a direct cause of Biden's (absolutely intentional) policies.
 

ScarletNCream

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Supply and demand. When supply exceeds demand the price goes down. When demand exceeds the supply the price goes up. This is simple economics. If the US produced enough oil to be energy independent (as we were for a while under Trump), the price of oil will go down. This happens for two reasons:

1- what I just explained above
2- the OPEC nations will increase production (more supply) in an effort to undercut the more expensive oil production methods sometimes employed in the US (fracking, for example).

With Biden killing some avenues of oil production/transportation in our country we are once again largely at the mercy of the OPEC nations to supply us with oil. The current price of oil today is a direct cause of Biden's (absolutely intentional) policies.

lol stop it, if Trump made us oil independent why did the amount of imported oil go up under Trump?
 

nick614

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Can you support the claim that Trump got OPEC to release 'more' oil in the past? I remember him getting them to cut production by threatening to pull US military support, but I don't recall him ever asking them to produce more.
Trump had some success both getting OPEC to increase and decrease production at different times to keep the price stable. You don't want the price high or low, need that sweet spot for all those jobs.

 

TampaBaySkers

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Everyone of the Dems in the senate voted against defunding the police yet the radial insurrectionist party continues to spread the fake news.
Maybe you should watch the Biden video again.. oh I see you’re pivoting from your previous statement.

Oh and an insurrection is what just happened in Afghanistan.. just so you know what it means.
 

nick614

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But the problem is Trump did screw everything up and was a disgusting human being. He is the total **** package.
Trump had the best economic numbers in a long time, didn't start a new conflict (for the first time since Carter?), low number of illegal aliens in a long time, stable oil and gas prices, energy independence and some other good things.
 

nick614

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Everyone of the Dems in the senate voted against defunding the police yet the radial insurrectionist party continues to spread the fake news.
After they got the polling numbers showing even black Americans oppose diverting funds away from the police or reducing the amount of police officers by a margin of almost 70-30.
 

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Trump had the best economic numbers in a long time, didn't start a new conflict (for the first time since Carter?), low number of illegal aliens in a long time, stable oil and gas prices, energy independence and some other good things.

Stop it. Name one economic number that was negatively trending when Trump took office that he turned around.

His #1 card in his playbook was to claim victory for statistics that were trending positively before his presidency.
 
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Everyone of the Dems in the senate voted against defunding the police yet the radial insurrectionist party continues to spread the fake news.
Insurrection? Do you give any critical thought towards the BS your news overlords feed you or do you just swallow it whole without question? This is a rhetorical question as the answer is obvious.

The Senate is doing their part in the Dims dog and pony show, which is only meant to keep their dimwitted useful idiots in line with them. The truth is linked below - a bill passed by the Dim House without a single R vote that defunds the police.

Congress passes police defund bill without a single R vote
 
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Insurrection? Do you give any critical thought towards the BS your news overlords feed you or do you just swallow it whole without question? This is a rhetorical question is the answer is obvious.

The Senate is doing their part in the Dims dog and pony show, which is only meant to keep their dimwitted useful idiots in line with them. The truth is linked below - a bill passed by the Dim House without a single R vote that defunds the police.

Congress passes police defund bill without a single R vote
^^^ I mean…let’s hear this response 😆
 

nick614

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Stop it. Name one economic number that was negatively trending when Trump took office that he turned around.

His #1 card in his playbook was to claim victory for statistics that were trending positively before his presidency.

Too easy, my favorite unemployment stat, Labor Participation Rate (Lower is worse)

 

TampaBaySkers

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Insurrection? Do you give any critical thought towards the BS your news overlords feed you or do you just swallow it whole without question? This is a rhetorical question is the answer is obvious.

The Senate is doing their part in the Dims dog and pony show, which is only meant to keep their dimwitted useful idiots in line with them. The truth is linked below - a bill passed by the Dim House without a single R vote that defunds the police.

Congress passes police defund bill without a single R vote
He needs to go back to the pay board. He’s embarrassing himself over here.
 

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Too easy, my favorite unemployment stat, Labor Participation Rate (Lower is worse)


One of the only positives I’d give his entire presidency was lowering the corporate tax rate back down to a reasonable level.

His absolute debacle of covid handling causes him to not get a pass on that dip at the end, so no dice there.
 
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Stop it. Name one economic number that was negatively trending when Trump took office that he turned around.

His #1 card in his playbook was to claim victory for statistics that were trending positively before his presidency.
All these years later and it still has to be explained? The US economy basically hit rock bottom in '08. When Obama took over there was nowhere for it to go but up, which it did, but very incrementally. Obama didn't have to do anything in order for the economy to grow back.

When Trump took over he reduced regulations and had congress pass tax reform. The US economy then took off. Virtually every statistical measure was at or near records (unemployment, stocks, etc.).

Here's a question: what do you think was the key thing Obama did to get the economy to grow?
 

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I'm about to be in favor of electric cars if we would make all batteries and means of energy production domestic. Burn that sweet sweet coal and ramp up the energy. We've got coal in this country like Saudi Arabia's got oil. It's a 100-year supply
 

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All these years later and it still has to be explained? The US economy basically hit rock bottom in '08. When Obama took over there was nowhere for it to go but up, which it did, but very incrementally. Obama didn't have to do anything in order for the economy to grow back.

When Trump took over he reduced regulations and had congress pass tax reform. The US economy then took off. Virtually every statistical measure was at or near records (unemployment, stocks, etc.).

Here's a question: what do you think was the key thing Obama did to get the economy to grow?

Im not giving Obama credit for **** just like Trump doesn’t give credit for ****.
 

nick614

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One of the only positives I’d give his entire presidency was lowering the corporate tax rate back down to a reasonable level.

His absolute debacle of covid handling causes him to not get a pass on that dip at the end, so no dice there.
Until you realize covid handling is the job of governors in the US not the president. President can only do things that Biden has done like forced masks on airplanes and trains and forced vaccines for gov employees. Which is something I'm glad Trump didn't do.
 

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Until you realize covid handling is the job of governors in the US not the president. President can only do things that Biden has done like forced masks on airplanes and trains and forced vaccines for gov employees. Which is something I'm glad Trump didn't do.

The presidents only role in a pandemic is to unify the American people and communicate the information he receives from his experts in a way the public understands and can rally around. He literally could not have done a worse job of this if he tried
 

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All these years later and it still has to be explained? The US economy basically hit rock bottom in '08. When Obama took over there was nowhere for it to go but up, which it did, but very incrementally. Obama didn't have to do anything in order for the economy to grow back.

When Trump took over he reduced regulations and had congress pass tax reform. The US economy then took off. Virtually every statistical measure was at or near records (unemployment, stocks, etc.).

Here's a question: what do you think was the key thing Obama did to get the economy to grow?

That's true Obama took over at rock bottom so most things SHOULD be a positive but even the most important 2 numbers in my book Labor Force Participation and Average Take Home Pay both started to rise under Trump.
 

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The presidents only role in a pandemic is to unify the American people and communicate the information he receives from his experts in a way the public understands and can rally around. He literally could not have done a worse job of this if he tried
He was busy getting impeached for delaying some funds to the Ukraine and then he was called racist by Joe Biden and the media for wanting to shut down international flights to China before things got "serious".
 

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The presidents only role in a pandemic is to unify the American people and communicate the information he receives from his experts in a way the public understands and can rally around. He literally could not have done a worse job of this if he tried

So he shouldn’t of shutdown travel from China or created warp speed for a vaccine?

You’re embarrassing yourself as well. Maybe your handler @3andsomedust will get you back to your board.
 

nick614

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Joe Biden said stopping China flights is racist

Joe Biden said any vaccine made cant be trusted

Ouch. I wonder why vaccine rates are lower than they wanted?
 

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Maybe you should watch the Biden video again.. oh I see you’re pivoting from your previous statement.

Oh and an insurrection is what just happened in Afghanistan.. just so you know what it means.

Joe Biden said stopping China flights is racist

Joe Biden said any vaccine made cant be trusted

Ouch. I wonder why vaccine rates are lower than they wanted?
Fake News!
 

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He was busy getting impeached for delaying some funds to the Ukraine and then he was called racist by Joe Biden and the media for wanting to shut down international flights to China before things got "serious".

So you’re saying he sucked at handling it because he was distracted? I’m confident you’ve been this understanding with every president
 

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I deleted the post because it was not the open board. Politics should be on the Open board.
You deleted the post, in this same thread, because you said "Stop telling lies Biden NEVER supported defunding police" and 2 minutes later I posted a video of Biden saying he "Absolutely supports that"
 

ScarletNCream

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So he shouldn’t of shutdown travel from China or created warp speed for a vaccine?

You’re embarrassing yourself as well. Maybe your handler @3andsomedust will get you back to your board.

He should have shut down travel from China (I mean but really shut it down not just fake shut it down but that’s not the point). The president should refer to epidemiologists to those decisions. The presidents role is to keep the American people unified on a plan, he’s clearly not a scientist (let’s inject some disinfectants)
 

nick614

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He should have shut down travel from China (I mean but really shut it down not just fake shut it down but that’s not the point). The president should refer to epidemiologists to those decisions. The presidents role is to keep the American people unified on a plan, he’s clearly not a scientist (let’s inject some disinfectants)
Yeah the genius Fauci who looks like in the end will show his grants he gave to the Wuhan lab funded the GoF research that lead to the pandemic.
 

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Awful statesman? Okay. Awful president??? Holy crap. Grab some popcorn and observe the next few years...

Trump went down as the worst president in the history of this country, will Joe be worse? I don’t know, your cult’s goofy whataboutisms don’t work on me, I hate all politicians.
 

ScarletNCream

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Yeah the genius Fauci who looks like in the end will show his grants he gave to the Wuhan lab funded the GoF research that lead to the pandemic.

Who was it that decided Fauci should be the one behind the podium again? If he’s bad, blame the guy that made him the face and leading expert. Except you won’t, because Cult45