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nick614

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Do you have any examples of active domestic oil wells that Biden has stopped? Also, just to confirm, you’re saying domestic oil production drives gas prices?
Just to confirm you're saying domestic orange production drive orange juice prices?
 

nick614

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lol you’re stating it’s caused by Biden. Just asking for some reading material on that point specifically. Also, are you saying domestic oil supply controls gas prices?

I already gave you the reading material. Search Biden executive orders you can read online of his oil policies. Go to EIA.gov and look at USA oil production. But as you'll see I already posted that information for you.
 

ScarletNCream

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Just to confirm you're saying domestic orange production drive orange juice prices?

lol keep posting the same stupid thing, but you’re ignoring the fact that the US makes up a small’ish’ % of the worlds overall crude oil production. Biden’s executive orders would only affect domestic production, and there hasn’t been enough time to blame Biden for changes in supply and production (not that I really ever want to be the knuckledragger that contributes gas prices to the freaking president)
 

nick614

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lol keep posting the same stupid thing, but you’re ignoring the fact that the US makes up a small’ish’ % of the worlds overall crude oil production. Biden’s executive orders would only affect domestic production, and there hasn’t been enough time to blame Biden for changes in supply and production (not that I really ever want to be the knuckledragger that contributes gas prices to the freaking president)

Oh okay, my bad I thought an extra 1.3 billion barrels of oil might make the price go down a bit. I must know nothing about supply and demand.
 

TampaBaySkers

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lol keep posting the same stupid thing, but you’re ignoring the fact that the US makes up a small’ish’ % of the worlds overall crude oil production. Biden’s executive orders would only affect domestic production, and there hasn’t been enough time to blame Biden for changes in supply and production (not that I really ever want to be the knuckledragger that contributes gas prices to the freaking president)

You do realize speculation affects oil prices, right?
 

ScarletNCream

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Oh okay, my bad I thought an extra 1.3 billion barrels of oil might make the price go down a bit. I must know nothing about supply and demand.

Sorry if you already posted it but can you post where you pulled your annual oil production numbers in the US?
 

nick614

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Let me guess, oh leftist apologist, but "Biden isnt stopping US oil production or that hasn't gone into effect yet!"

Well sweetheart, let's look at US production numbers

6 mo. average production by year

Obama 2015: 587.3 million barrels

Trump 2018: 1.561 Billion barrels
Trump 2019: 1.799 Billion barrels
Trump 2020: 1.829 Billion barrels

Biden 2021: 682.6 million barrels

Oh whoops, back to Obama policies and Obama production numbers. But I'm curious to hear your lies anyways...

Numbers from US Dept of Energy.
Sorry if you already posted it but can you post where you pulled your annual oil production numbers in the US?
 

nick614

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Well thanks for that but here’s what I show;


(Thousands of barrels per day).

Production went down in Trumps first year and then rose and I believe imported oil went up as well. Based on this, you must have been a big fan of Obama, since this is your benchmark within the president’s control.

Starting production take a long time. Stopping is almost instant.


Obama actually had lower numbers than the Biden number now.
 

nick614

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Gas production was at the highest level ever then suddenly collapsed when Biden tries to stop US oil production then price of gas going up over $1 more instantly in that time is all total coincidence and not Biden's fault!!
 

nick614

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Oh speculation absolutely affects it, along with a thousand other factors irrelevant from the president. (Whether that president be Republican or Democrat).

lol so did Bush.

Overall point is domestic production is just a small piece to the puzzle it’s a really stupid finger to point and say “President good” or “Durr, President bad”. That’s the point

Tell me a difference between Bush and Obama because in my view they are one and the same.
 

ScarletNCream

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Gas production was at the highest level ever then suddenly collapsed when Biden tries to stop US oil production then price of gas going up over $1 more instantly in that time is all total coincidence and not Biden's fault!!

All the while projections have shown the second things started opening up post Covid demand would outpace supply for a good chunk of time. No coincidence at all, anyone could have seen an increase in gas prices coming after things opened up more from covid
 

nick614

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Bush and Obama both started wars
Bush and Obama both massively expanded medicare/medicaid
Bush and Obama both expanded Fed in local schools (no child left behind / common core)
Bush and Obama both wanted open borders
Bush and Obama both wanted amnesty
Bush and Obama both sent jobs overseas

I mean what is a major policy difference?
 

nick614

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All the while projections have shown the second things started opening up post Covid demand would outpace supply for a good chunk of time. No coincidence at all, anyone could have seen an increase in gas prices coming after things opened up more from covid

If demand was down in 2020 and supply was at the highest ever in 2020 then in early 2021 we should have had the lowest fuel prices ever.
 

ScarletNCream

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Bush and Obama both started wars
Bush and Obama both massively expanded medicare/medicaid
Bush and Obama both expanded Fed in local schools (no child left behind / common core)
Bush and Obama both wanted open borders
Bush and Obama both wanted amnesty
Bush and Obama both sent jobs overseas

I mean what is a major policy difference?

For the 2nd time, I agree
 

Smokinthereiff

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Why doesn’t Biden put a price freeze? Don’t Obama? Dude wants to forgive all college debt(I sacrificed a lot to pay off mine, do I get a refund on my payments?) additional unemployment pay, free housing. Hes got this one as well, step up and put a price freeze on all essential items rising in cost Biden!
 

nick614

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Why doesn’t Biden put a price freeze? Don’t Obama? Dude wants to forgive all college debt(I sacrificed a lot to pay off mine, do I get a refund on my payments?) additional unemployment pay, free housing. Hes got this one as well, step up and put a price freeze on all essential items rising in cost Biden!

I propose a compromise on college debt since it is becoming more clear colleges are engaged in massive fraud, seize all university endowments, which happen to roughly equal the amount of outstanding student loans, then make colleges cosign any new loans and allow debt distinguished in bankruptcy.
 

Redblooded_rivals

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Why doesn’t Biden put a price freeze? Don’t Obama? Dude wants to forgive all college debt(I sacrificed a lot to pay off mine, do I get a refund on my payments?) additional unemployment pay, free housing. Hes got this one as well, step up and put a price freeze on all essential items rising in cost Biden!
The thought was 10,000 foregiveness. The far left wanted 50,000. Biden said no.
 

ScarletNCream

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Why doesn’t Biden put a price freeze? Don’t Obama? Dude wants to forgive all college debt(I sacrificed a lot to pay off mine, do I get a refund on my payments?) additional unemployment pay, free housing. Hes got this one as well, step up and put a price freeze on all essential items rising in cost Biden!

get your communist ideas out of here, this is America
 

Smokinthereiff

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I propose a compromise on college debt since it is becoming more clear colleges are engaged in massive fraud, seize all university endowments, which happen to roughly equal the amount of outstanding student loans, then make colleges cosign any new loans and allow debt distinguished in bankruptcy.
Ok,

what about all the money that responsible people had to and did pay back? The ones who owe now benefit? I gave up a ton of personal/fun choices to knuckle down and pay off. So I shouldn’t be paid back? Only the ones who haven’t/cannot get paid get relief? Nah, that’s ******
 

nick614

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Ok,

what about all the money that responsible people had to and did pay back? The ones who owe now benefit? I gave up a ton of personal/fun choices to knuckle down and pay off. So I shouldn’t be paid back? Only the ones who haven’t/cannot get paid get relief? Nah, that’s ****ed

That's why the universities should fund it instead of the tax payer
 

Smokinthereiff

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That's why the universities should fund it instead of the tax payer
I don’t care who pays me back. But if getting money I feel the people who paid should be given back whatever the people who haven’t paid get. Or we all signed up for the same ****** deal and all owe the same.

I know it won’t work this way but it damn well should.
 
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Biden has never been for defunding the police, I wish people would quit with that lie.
Watch the video below. When asked if he'd be open to "redirecting funding from police departments to social services, mental health counseling and affordable housing" Biden said "Yes, I've proposed that kind of reform".

This is also known as DEFUNDING THE POLICE.

Quit getting your "news" from CNN and MSNBC and maybe then you'll actually learn a thing or two.

 

NWFLCOCK

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If only we had our own oil and pipeline?If only we were energy independent so we don't have to rely on the middle east and OPEC? If only these things occurred gas would be 2 dollars or less. Oh wait. All those things existed 8 ****ing months ago!!!
Do you know that oil prices in this country is set by the price of oil world wide. If we produced 110 per cent of our needs the price of the total production would be set by the price of oil on the world market. You are wrong to say if we had a pipeline out gas prices would be less that $2 a gallon.
 

nick614

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Do you know that oil prices in this country is set by the price of oil world wide. If we produced 110 per cent of our needs the price of the total production would be set by the price of oil on the world market. You are wrong to say if we had a pipeline out gas prices would be less that $2 a gallon.
This thread already covers why every part of your post is 100% wrong, give it a read if you want.
 
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