tOSU ascending?

WHCSC

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While that is a nice cliché, I personally don't think it is 100% accurate. There are schools that "win" and the recruits don't just flock to them. Okie State is a consistent "good" program, Boise State, K-State, even Texas. It is not just winning as a standard in my opinion, you have to have all the ingredients of winning BIG to get into the playoffs, put guys in the league and always be mentioned as being in the hunt.

I think we could be greatly disappointed that once the winning starts, the high level recruiting will lag behind and then of course, there is always the question what constitutes a high level of recruiting.
By "winning" I meant winning big. Recruiting will get better if we can get to respectable and even better if we can get above that. You'd have to be winning at elite level to recruit at an elite level in general.
 

TruHusker

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By "winning" I meant winning big. Recruiting will get better if we can get to respectable and even better if we can get above that. You'd have to be winning at elite level to recruit at an elite level in general.
So, with the qualifier now in place, what you are saying is we are a long ways away from this happening.
 

antirowboat

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Nebraska could have 5 straight undefeated seasons and they still wouldn't beat OSU in recruiting rankings. Just how it goes folks.

More winning and more recruits will be willing to come though. It doesn't take someone to be a brain surgeon to figure this stuff out.

And as far as OSU going even higher, it's not really possible anyways from a recruiting rankings perspective.
 

antirowboat

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At least after this season Ohio State drops off the regular season schedule for a few years and Wisconsin has to deal with them for the auto loss.
 
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You mean like Bauserman? I understand your point and it is valid but even Fields had some struggles early in his career. Nebraska struggled to beat KU when both Berringer and Frazier were out with injuries. Recruiting highly ranked QBs increases the chance that they will perform well but if they don't, you can struggle regardless of how much talent you have elsewhere. Again, you can only put 11 guys on the field at a time.

Here's the major difference. Joe Bauserman used to be the type of QB that we had waiting in the wings. I think he was a 3* and pretty lightly recruited.

The starting QB this year will likely be CJ Stroud, MVP of the Elite 11.

Does that mean he'll be awesome? No. But OSU is recruiting the QB position better than anytime in their history.
 

TruHusker

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Nebraska could have 5 straight undefeated seasons and they still wouldn't beat OSU in recruiting rankings. Just how it goes folks.

More winning and more recruits will be willing to come though. It doesn't take someone to be a brain surgeon to figure this stuff out.

And as far as OSU going even higher, it's not really possible anyways from a recruiting rankings perspective.

Nebraska could have 5 straight undefeated seasons and they still wouldn't beat OSU in recruiting rankings. Just how it goes folks.

More winning and more recruits will be willing to come though. It doesn't take someone to be a brain surgeon to figure this stuff out.

And as far as OSU going even higher, it's not really possible anyways from a recruiting rankings perspective.
Uh, it's not the number of recruits, it's the ability (highly rated) of said recruits. So maybe, your analogy of brain surgeon falls apart there or was it made to point out you aren't one?
 

sdf2000

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Here's the major difference. Joe Bauserman used to be the type of QB that we had waiting in the wings. I think he was a 3* and pretty lightly recruited.

The starting QB this year will likely be CJ Stroud, MVP of the Elite 11.

Does that mean he'll be awesome? No. But OSU is recruiting the QB position better than anytime in their history.
Bauserman only saw the field because of Terrelle Pryor's TattooGate suspension. He was never the QB in waiting. And he was quickly replaced by Pryor's heir apparent, Braxton Miller.
 
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Bauserman only saw the field because of Terrelle Pryor's TattooGate suspension. He was never the QB in waiting. And he was quickly replaced by Pryor's heir apparent, Braxton Miller.
If I am not mistaken, he was actually a walk on after a stint in minor league baseball. So I would agree, not the QB in waiting
 

dinglefritz

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Here's the major difference. Joe Bauserman used to be the type of QB that we had waiting in the wings. I think he was a 3* and pretty lightly recruited.

The starting QB this year will likely be CJ Stroud, MVP of the Elite 11.

Does that mean he'll be awesome? No. But OSU is recruiting the QB position better than anytime in their history.
As I posted, the chances are better that the highly ranked kids will perform. BUT, there's still no guarantee. I'm not sure how Ohio is doing it but it certainly gives the appearance of cheating.... As Tom always used to say, "I want to recruit well enough to at least give the appearance that we're cheating but not so much that it warrants an investigation"....or something to that effect.