OT - MLB moving game from Georgia

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mgbreeze

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dekalb county sent out 21 million vote by mail ballets. they have 1 million voters. please explain
That's false. Not that I give a crap, but it took about 27 seconds to google and find the truth.
 

inthedeed

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That's false. Not that I give a crap, but it took about 27 seconds to google and find the truth.
try again. it's been reported from multiple sources. why do you think they changed their election procedures? do you honestly believe they are trying to be mean? what is wrong with using an id to identify validity?
 

inthedeed

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how many votes did they have
enough didnt they. just enough in 6 different states to come back after hours, doors locked and polling place watchers removed. wow, derr, i guess it's all on the up and up if the msm and marxist politicians tell me it is.
 

schuele

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As for voting by mail, it works great in Colorado. The ballots are tracked. There was a Republican talk show host that split with his significant other and she moved to Florida. When her ballot arrived in Colorado, he filled it out for her. When she requested an absentee ballot from Colorado, it was rejected because she has already voted. The guy ended up in jail over it.

Every state should do mail in ballots.
Nah, he got probation and some community service - after making up some ******** story about how mental and physical ailments caused him to fill out his ex's ballot and forge her name on it, all the while having no idea he was doing something wrong.

Agree with you that mail-in voting works great in Colorado, and everyone in both parties who has half a brain wants to keep it. Some things are better done in person, though. For example, I long for the days when blowharding gasbags who think everyone wants to hear their red-hot political takes could only inflict them on the fellers down at the local Casey's General Store or coffee shop, sparing the rest of us.
 

Lincoln100

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Here’s what I found:

The bill, known as SB 202, gives state-level officials the authority to usurp the powers of county election boards — allowing the Republican-dominated state government to potentially disqualify voters in Democratic-leaning areas. It criminalizes the provision of food and water to voters waiting in line, in a state where lines are notoriously long in heavily nonwhite precincts. It requires ID for absentee ballots and limits the placement of ballot drop boxes.

It seems clear that Republicans are trying to tilt the playing field and make it easier for them to win. They know more people voting is generally bad news for them, thus we have voter suppression agendas. The racist component is that these agendas will influence the poor and minority neighborhoods more proportionately.

I think the racist reaction is bit overblown here. It’s more about Georgia was a surprise in the presidential election, and voter registration drives were largely credited. Republicans react by suppressing voter turnout to stave off a repeat, and Democrats object. The racist aspect is used to amplify their point.
Food and water is available, early voting was increased, ballot drop boxes were added.
 
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Lincoln100

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I'm not sure what you're asking, are you referring to the video I commented on?
Yup. Laws will always affect one group more than another. Always. It will never have a perfectly proportionate effect. So there must be a "racial intent" to it?
 

MOHUSKER

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Watching some Husker baseball now, and I couldn’t care less about the players or coaches political belief.

My comment was to sport’s leadership in general. Not a wise move to alienate some of your fan base, and ratings seem to prove my point.

They’re signing bigger tv deals for more money, eyeballs are okay, but if they’re still getting billions of dollars thrown their way then they aren’t going to care if a few boomers tune to something else.
 

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a looong read


Here are the most significant changes to voting in the state, as written into the new law:
 
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MOHUSKER

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Making the day a national holiday would be a great start

Honestly don’t think it would, service jobs, retail and restaurants often don’t observe national holidays. It would just give white collar guys another day off.
 

inthedeed

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I did look it up, no such thing happened. Not sure why some peop
you didnt look for anything. pictures of the invoices for mail in ballots are available if you look. not going to do it for you. will require some WORK on you behalf.
 

inthedeed

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a looong read


Here are the most significant changes to voting in the state, as written into the new law:
marxist written and delivered
 

Capdanjou

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Yup. Laws will always affect one group more than another. Always. It will never have a perfectly proportionate effect. So there must be a "racial intent" to it?
I never said that laws don't create winners and losers. However, a voting law presumably benefits everyone equally. If it doesn't, well then yes, it is has an inherent bias. Isn't that obvious, and obviously wrong?

The bigger picture is how we get accustomed to certain attitudes. In Texas, you don’t even have to register to own a gun, meaning that it's easier to buy a potentially deadly weapon than it is to vote. Owning a gun is a fundamental right as a citizen, but I would remind you that so too is the right to vote.
 

Oiler402

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Sounds like it’s easier to vote in Georgia than here. Guess were suppressing the vote as well.
 

Lincoln100

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I never said that laws don't create winners and losers. However, a voting law presumably benefits everyone equally. If it doesn't, well then yes, it is has an inherent bias. Isn't that obvious, and obviously wrong?

The bigger picture is how we get accustomed to certain attitudes. In Texas, you don’t even have to register to own a gun, meaning that it's easier to buy a potentially deadly weapon than it is to vote. Owning a gun is a fundamental right as a citizen, but I would remind you that so too is the right to vote.

Of course it does, if it applies to everyone equally, shouldnt be a problem at all. These laws apply to everyone equally, BUT, as iroh stated, more young diverse women like to mail it in, so IF you change that (by proving you are who you say you are), then it must be racism because it effects those more than any other group. It is an equality of outcome argument, which is a juvenile way of thinking. Who gives two ***** about gun laws as it relates to this? People need an ID to buy alcohol, do you not think voting on the leaders of the country is jist as important?
 

inthedeed

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K, you've got nothing and everyone knows it.
snowflake reality for you, now and forever. voted in 1972 and had to show an id to a group of ladies who knew me my entire 18 years of life. no one has the right or is entitled to devalue my or even your vote.
 

Capdanjou

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Of course it does, if it applies to everyone equally, shouldnt be a problem at all. These laws apply to everyone equally, BUT, as iroh stated, more young diverse women like to mail it in, so IF you change that (by proving you are who you say you are), then it must be racism because it effects those more than any other group. It is an equality of outcome argument, which is a juvenile way of thinking. Who gives two ***** about gun laws as it relates to this? People need an ID to buy alcohol, do you not think voting on the leaders of the country is jist as important?
Several people have given you thoughtful responses to your initial inquiry, myself included, but you either haven't paid attention, or you don't care. You aren't looking for a discussion, you're looking for a fight. No thanks.
 

regoratsginrom

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The new laws don't seem all that restrictive...in fact, in some cases less restrictive. No excuse needed for mail in ballots....adding an additional day...polling hours from 7 to 7 p.m.
 
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Of course if you post the entire video you will see that the workers were initially told that the were shutting down for the night so they boxed up the ballots and stored them per procedure. Them the decision was made that they would work well into the night, do they pulled them back out. Do you do any diligence before you post?
Lol. Sure bud
 

Lincoln100

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Several people have given you thoughtful responses to your initial inquiry, myself included, but you either haven't paid attention, or you don't care. You aren't looking for a discussion, you're looking for a fight. No thanks.
Hmmm, made a point or two you dont like? I just asked you a few questions.
 

Laner2

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That's a perspective, and a valid one, but it's not an argument that disproves the racial intent of voter laws.


Weird. And all this time I thought the burden was on proving your point, not on disproving a negative. Hmmm, learn summin new every day.
 

Laner2

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The GA legislature and GA State Election Board are given new sweeping powers to usurp county and local election boards on dubious grounds..... basically when they deem a review is needed. The Secretary of State, the state's chief election official (currently Brad Raffensperger), is now essentially neutered.

Even a backwoods gapped-tooth neckbeard hillbilly knows what's up here -- the Republicans aren't interested in reviewing election results in Hayseed County, Georgia, Nope. Counties with higher minority populations, especially majority black Fulton County, are the intervention targets.

The 2020 GA election results were certified, audited, re-certified, and meticulously hand counted. The election outcome did not change. Trump then attempted to strong-arm Raffensperger to "find 11,870 votes" (and specifically mentioning Fulton County) in an hour long conference during which Trump claimed that "there is no way I lost Georgia". Raffensperger did not bow to the pressure. He stood by the legal results. This new law eliminates, or at least by-passes, the "Raffensperger problem".

Good God. You are a living, breathing stereotype. Why don't you and Jussie get together and smoke a fattie?
 

Capdanjou

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Weird. And all this time I thought the burden was on proving your point, not on disproving a negative. Hmmm, learn summin new every day.
The question was "is this racist" and in that video clip Owens is arguing that to claim the law is racist is to condescend to African Americans because it assumes they aren't intelligent enough to figure out which end is up. That's a fair point, but it's not an argument that disproves the existence of racism or racist intent.
 

SLOHusker

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Explain how the voting law change is racist. If you can't, let MLB know you are done watching.
It isn't. It cuts down on fraud. I think that MLB had another motivation in this in that they really wanted the game that was supposed to have happened last year in LA to be played this year and used this as an excuse to get it done. MLB really doesn't understand that its primary fanbase are white conservatives and even many of the Latin Americans that make up its international fanbase are conservative (Cubans, Venezuelans, etc). Just a very short-sighted decision in a time when they are feeling a terrible financial crunch. Teams have been spending massively o contracts that I question whether many will be able to afford.
 

Laner2

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Again, usually the proponent is obliged to prove their point, not demand that the antagonist disprove the proponent's point.
 

SLOHusker

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Leadership is hamstrung. On the one hand they are running a business and all of the challenges that entails, on the other hand most major US sports are dominated, or have a very large number of Blacks on their rosters. A generation ago the owners could tamp down any problems that vocal athletes may have caused, but that just doesn't seem possible any longer. If they try to quiet their players it usually backfires in a major way, if they make a statement of support they risk alienating fans. The thing that really has em by the balls is the fact that they can't replace these guys. The business is lucrative because people want to watch the best of the best play the sport, not some D league scab.
Blacks really aren't a major factor in MLB in the way they are in the NFL or NBA. It's just a hard fact. Latin American players make up a much more significant percentage of baseball rosters and most of them come to this country with little prior knowledge of or concern for our politics. Many come from countries with authoritarian governments or governments that are corrupt and see America as a refuge from that trouble. I seriously doubt they were in the least bit concerned about Georgia's election laws. As for the white baseball players, most often they are conservatives and are typically pretty outspoken about it.
So what exactly was MLB's ownership trying to do? I think they want to win over a greater number of black athletes to the sport but I honestly don't see it happening. The world has changed from the 70s and baseball doesn't appeal to these athletes the way that basketball and football do. The game has a slower pace and doesn't showcase athleticism in the same way. It's much like golf or tennis where we had a couple marquee black athletes in the past couples decades (Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, etc) but their presence didn't lead to a massive growth in black participation.
In the end, MLB has only alienated a majority of its fanbase and not at a good time.
 

Capdanjou

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Again, usually the proponent is obliged to prove their point, not demand that the antagonist disprove the proponent's point.
Okay, let me try explaining this a different way. Owen is making a good point, a valid point, just not a point that addresses the question that began this thread. I'm not arguing that she must prove or disprove racism. What I'm saying is that the person who posted the video did so ostensibly to demonstrate an argument that undermines the notion that the Georgia law is racist. The video does not make said argument, it makes a separate point.
 
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