OT - MLB moving game from Georgia
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I'm boycotting MLB since they support unfair elections, election fraud, and stolen elections.
There are plenty on here who think it is, i want to hear it. I just hoping they do a lot better than the president who royally choked on it.
i dont really care either way but the funny thing is the city of Atlanta im guessing will bear the brunt of this financial loss and they are a heavy democratic city. So basically they were hurt by the law AND the response to the law by MLB? Sucks to be atlanta right now. maybe they should have boycotted the goods produced by the rural areas of Georgia or something?
CEO of the airline in GA (delta?) had his corporate relations person rallying against it and neither had read the law .... woke does not require knowing any facts
Here's a solid offer:
I'll watch baseball if I damn well feel like it, and you can watch, or not watch, whatever you please.
Fairly simple, most mail in voting is from a young, female and diverse group. In person voting is predominantly white male. Meaningful fraud has never even been remotely proven. Georgia was flipped to a much more diverse set of candidates once the majority of voters were empowered to vote. Due to a loss of power in the Senate, the Republican legislature of Georgia chose to disregard the method that people from a diverse background use. Hence, the charge of racism. The right would howl if we went all electronic as they would lose their older voting base... the fraud charge is obviously overblown as anyone with proof of it would have made millions off it by breaking the story. Fox is going to pay massive civil penalties due to the voting machine lawsuits so the fraud argument will be proven baseless again... so, there you go..
dekalb county sent out 21 million vote by mail ballets. they have 1 million voters. please explain
Have you read the law? I have not, so this is just a guess based on historical precedent, after all this is hardly the first voting law. There is nothing inherently racist about wanting to ensure the integrity of our elections, but usually these laws are designed in such a way as to disadvantage or discourage persons of color from casting their votes. There is a long history and a lot of evidence out there on racial intent of these laws.
The context for the Georgia law, and others in the works, is a response to a presidential election that saw historic turnout. Moreover, the law is pretty clearly inspired by the false claims of the former president who repeatedly said that widespread voter fraud had lost him the election. Those falsehoods incited a mob to storm the capitol, and those falsehoods are, in large part, the impetus for the recent wave of voter laws. This is important, because how you feel about the law is likely influenced by your feelings about the outcome of the election.
Consider this: despite record turnout for the election, nowhere near the total number of eligible voters actually cast ballots. Still, some people find themselves in a frenzy over historic voter turnout as evidence of fraud, notably in places like Georgia, Michigan and Arizona, which have very large populations of African Americans and Mexican Americans. Those also happened to be pivotal states in the election. I might be wrong, but I haven't seen voter laws popping up in uncontested states, like Nebraska and Iowa, for example.
So why this law, why now? It seems pretty transparent to me. While officials in Georgia couldn't find evidence of widespread voter fraud in the presidential election, which forced the mostly conservative state to recognize Biden's win, state lawmakers most certainly could and did respond to the anger over claims of voter fraud.
For my part, I don't see anything wrong with the premise of a voter law that looks to protect an election from fraud. But these laws aren't usually about making the vote secure -- again I haven't read this one, so I'm not speaking from a position of authority. Bottom line, for every confirmed story of a stuffed ballot box or fake vote, there is another of voter rolls being purged. Conservatives are angered by cases of voter fraud, liberals are angered by cases of voter suppression. Assuming that both exist, because they do, where is the middle ground? A law that increases voter turnout as a civic duty, while also ensuring that voters are legitimately registered and can easily cast their ballots?
That's my 2 cents. On a related note, I was sitting on the porch with my wife and friend. We got into a conversation about some meaningless thing happening in the local school district. The friend said her teenage daughter, whose father is Mexican, as in from Mexico, making her first generation and Mexican American, blames most injustices, such as the one taking place in her school district, on middle aged white men. As a middle aged white man it's exhausting being accused of all the problems in the world.
Georgia
You're just full of lies today. Democratically run countries do not allow voting by mail because it is rife with fraud from multiple angles. Anyone with half a brain can put that together.
Georgia is going to take away Delta's tax advantages. Sherman will make them howl again
This explains it pretty well
That's a perspective, and a valid one, but it's not an argument that disproves the racial intent of voter laws.
I thought it was suppression. So, we are to infer bad intent because a change will effect one group more than another?
Here’s what I found:
The bill, known as SB 202, gives state-level officials the authority to usurp the powers of county election boards — allowing the Republican-dominated state government to potentially disqualify voters in Democratic-leaning areas. It criminalizes the provision of food and water to voters waiting in line, in a state where lines are notoriously long in heavily nonwhite precincts. It requires ID for absentee ballots and limits the placement of ballot drop boxes.
It seems clear that Republicans are trying to tilt the playing field and make it easier for them to win. They know more people voting is generally bad news for them, thus we have voter suppression agendas. The racist component is that these agendas will influence the poor and minority neighborhoods more proportionately.
I think the racist reaction is bit overblown here. It’s more about Georgia was a surprise in the presidential election, and voter registration drives were largely credited. Republicans react by suppressing voter turnout to stave off a repeat, and Democrats object. The racist aspect is used to amplify their point.
The bill, known as SB 202, gives state-level officials the authority to usurp the powers of county election boards — allowing the Republican-dominated state government to potentially disqualify voters in Democratic-leaning areas. It criminalizes the provision of food and water to voters waiting in line, in a state where lines are notoriously long in heavily nonwhite precincts. It requires ID for absentee ballots and limits the placement of ballot drop boxes.
It seems clear that Republicans are trying to tilt the playing field and make it easier for them to win. They know more people voting is generally bad news for them, thus we have voter suppression agendas. The racist component is that these agendas will influence the poor and minority neighborhoods more proportionately.
I think the racist reaction is bit overblown here. It’s more about Georgia was a surprise in the presidential election, and voter registration drives were largely credited. Republicans react by suppressing voter turnout to stave off a repeat, and Democrats object. The racist aspect is used to amplify their point.
I'm not sure what you're asking, are you referring to the video I commented on?
As for voting by mail, it works great in Colorado. The ballots are tracked. There was a Republican talk show host that split with his significant other and she moved to Florida. When her ballot arrived in Colorado, he filled it out for her. When she requested an absentee ballot from Colorado, it was rejected because she has already voted. They guy ended up in jail over it.
Every state should do mail in ballots.
Every state should do mail in ballots.
Lot's of people are saying that more voters = bad news for Republicans. I think that's a weak and self-defeating argument. You can't argue "may the best ideas win" but then say "I can't win if more black and brown people vote." Absurd.
There is a direct correlation between how actively candidates stump in certain areas and the number of votes that favor said candidates. And that cuts both ways. When voters are ignored or taken for granted, opposition candidates see an opening to win over voters. There is a perception that just because a majority of Blacks and Mexican Americans currently vote Democrat that it will always be that way. That is a very weak assumption.
The GA legislature and GA State Election Board are given new sweeping powers to usurp county and local election boards on dubious grounds..... basically when they deem a review is needed. The Secretary of State, the state's chief election official (currently Brad Raffensperger), is now essentially neutered.
Even a backwoods gapped-tooth neckbeard hillbilly knows what's up here -- the Republicans aren't interested in reviewing election results in Hayseed County, Georgia, Nope. Counties with higher minority populations, especially majority black Fulton County, are the intervention targets.
The 2020 GA election results were certified, audited, re-certified, and meticulously hand counted. The election outcome did not change. Trump then attempted to strong-arm Raffensperger to "find 11,870 votes" (and specifically mentioning Fulton County) in an hour long conference during which Trump claimed that "there is no way I lost Georgia". Raffensperger did not bow to the pressure. He stood by the legal results. This new law eliminates, or at least by-passes, the "Raffensperger problem".
Honest question: Do you watch, or not watch, a sport based on politics? Of course that'd be perfectly fine if you did. But I tend to believe that if people kept watching in spite of domestic abuse, criminal convictions and drug use, they aren't going to suddenly stop watching because the politics of players doesn't sit right with their tum tum.
Watching some Husker baseball now, and I couldn’t care less about the players or coaches political belief.
My comment was to sport’s leadership in general. Not a wise move to alienate some of your fan base, and ratings seem to prove my point.
Leadership is hamstrung. On the one hand they are running a business and all of the challenges that entails, on the other hand most major US sports are dominated, or have a very large number of Blacks on their rosters. A generation ago the owners could tamp down any problems that vocal athletes may have caused, but that just doesn't seem possible any longer. If they try to quiet their players it usually backfires in a major way, if they make a statement of support they risk alienating fans. The thing that really has em by the balls is the fact that they can't replace these guys. The business is lucrative because people want to watch the best of the best play the sport, not some D league scab.
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So if all star game wasn’t moved the players would of quit and got a 8-5 job? Don’t be so naive.
Can a State levy a tax on like the MLB based on the number of people watching baseball each day?
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