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timnsun

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Here’s my question... how is Nebraska the bad guy here? We gave Kade a walk on spot. We gave him a scholarship. Now HE’s going elsewhere.

Will someone please tell me why this is a bad look for Nebraska?

OP started this thread and has been AWOL since. Now he’s sitting back smiling at the thread he started.

Pot stirring at its finest I tell ya.
 

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A lot of highly respected football people don’t have a lot of good things to say about Frost

like it or not Mike Riley is a highly respected coach in football circles. People understood he wasn’t a good fit and understood Neb had to move on - but Frost’s shots at him in the opening press conferences pissed a lot of long time football people off.

when asked to give an opinion about Neb and Frost they are anything but glowing

you can now add the Warner’s to the Speilmans and mccaffreys along with those in the game who respect Riley who have very little good to say about the program under frost


Such freaking nonsense.

What team do you support again?

It’s a never ending story with this troll who isn’t a Husker fan, never anything good to pass along always negative and is still pissed off that his buddy Jack Riley Benny was fired without just cause by his book..
 

poundth3rock

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scott frost in his first 3 recruiting classes signed more 4 star WRs than the entire big ten west combined - the position has been abysmal

Young guys take time to develop and you know that and you will miss on about half your guys. The combination of those items can make progress slower even when you are recruiting well.

You have already seen him put out 2nd and 3rd all team guys his first year with some solid but not spectacular athletes in Morgan and Spielmann so we all know this he can't coach narrative is crap.

With the guys he has recruited on this roster (many going in second and third years ) you will see that in 2021 when Martinez gets some blocking.
 

poundth3rock

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Here’s my question... how is Nebraska the bad guy here? We gave Kade a walk on spot. We gave him a scholarship. Now HE’s going elsewhere.

Will someone please tell me why this is a bad look for Nebraska?

OP started this thread and has been AWOL since. Now he’s sitting back smiling at the thread he started.

Pot stirring at its finest I tell ya.

This is my thing.

Nebraska gave him an opportunity and a scholarship. A nice thank you or nothing at all would probably be the appropriate words out the door.
 
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Young guys take time to develop and you know that and you will miss on about half your guys. The combination of those items can make progress slower even when you are recruiting well.

You have already seen him put out 2nd and 3rd all team guys his first year with some solid but not spectacular athletes in Morgan and Spielmann so we all know this he can't coach narrative is crap.

With the guys he has recruited on this roster (many going in second and third years ) you will see that in 2021 when Martinez gets some blocking.
Quick reminder that AM is the lowest rated QB in the conference when throwing from a clean pocket (gets some blocking).
 

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I guess will see if he transfers to alabama, Clemson, Ohio st, Oklahoma hell even Iowa or Wisconsin. if he’s that talented one of the top teams should grab him fast. My guess hell end up at a fcs school
When your highlight reel is 6 7 on 7 plays, you’re probably right.
 

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Hold on a minute. Everybody in this room bitches constantly about Frosts lack off deep throws. Now you want to bash a kid for only have 95 yards on 17 catches. Maybe thats because Frost dont call deep passes. How many of those 17 went for 1st downs? I ask that not knowing but since you want to bash the 17 catches then I figured you would at least know what they went for. How many WR had great stats under Frost? None. Absolutely none. Looking at that film in this thread, it looked like he got open downfield in practices. But that was against our weak *** DBs.
If he was making 8 short catches a game, sure he may have been worth something. He was making 2.

The hype surrounding him had nothing to do with him looking exceptional on the field. It had everything to do with being a walk-on, meaning he was exceeding expectations by even being on the field at all.

As others have said, he made the plays he was asked to make. I’m sure he maximized his potential. I admire him for being named a captain. But it was inevitable that he’d be passed on the depth chart.
 

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The way Warner caught the ball in 2020, he’s better suited for D1 volleyball. Plenty of sets and digs on the 2020 IN GAME highlight reel.
 

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What an embarrassment for Kade Warner. I wonder if daddy will accompany him to a job interview one day.
 

poundth3rock

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portal entries since December 1, 2019
Nebraska 37
Maryland 35
Pedo state 30
Michigan 29
Rutgers 28
Illinois 21
Michigan state 20
Purdue 19
Minnesota 17
Iowa 16
Indiana 13
Wisconsin 12
Ohio state 12
Northwestern 11

But don’t just look at numbers. Look at
Context. JD would have been in the record books and left. Fleming literally started and had promise and left a week later. The face of the program left. The future of the program left.
Yes some guys left because they just weren’t good and needed to find better fits.

Then you have 3 Guys who are in the portal because of some serious issues. Hunt, legrone. And Washington. So people say well Frost needed to do his homework better on certain guys. Well what was he doing at that time? He was coaching ucf and using a private jet when he was being paid handsomely by Nebraska.



I think we have to take more chances to get the talent to be the team the fans demand. We have significantly out recruited the West since Scott arrived even counting for attritions. You stick with Betts and Manning even if they have qualifying issues because they are elite athletes. You recruit a guy like Washington/Hunt despite the issues because they are the only guys available of that caliber late in the game in 2018. You will miss a bit more but sometime soon we will hit on a couple of these high ceiling risk guys and maybe a guy like Omar Manning or Betts develops into a Bateman of the receiver core. We have seen what Scott can do with a solid line and Morgan/Spielmann. I believe there are even higher ceiling guys than those to currently on this roster in Betts, Manning, Fidone and Nance. Hit on one of those gusy and you are a good offense. Hit on two and you have the best recieving core in the West.

Winning would cure a lot of this. If we start having offensive success like 2018 or better and win guys will want to be a part of that and you can take less chances in recruiting. If team was 6-2 or 7-1 maybe Robinson decides he can make it work to be away from home another year. On top of that us fans are going to nit pick everything little thing until he wins or is fired. No one give a hoot about Warner and this is a 3 post thread if the was 6-2.


All this is important and needs to be reviewed by the staff to minimize it and is worth discussing as fans. Personally, I am still most concerned about what the actual roster looks like in 2021 based on guys that are in, we have significantly more recruited talent than the West. It is possible these tactics that are part of the reason for higher attrition will pay off with the guys we have been able to retain in 2021.
 
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The problem with this program is that we have far too many players with Kade Warner level talent. That might fly in the MAC, but doesn't cut it in the power 5. Anybody get excited watching this team come out of the tunnel? I don't.
 

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The problem with this program is that we have far too many players with Kade Warner level talent. That might fly in the MAC, but doesn't cut it in the power 5. Anybody get excited watching this team come out of the tunnel? I don't.
But we have significantly out recruited the west? How can you not be excited that our talent is better across the board?
 

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Here’s my question... how is Nebraska the bad guy here? We gave Kade a walk on spot. We gave him a scholarship. Now HE’s going elsewhere.

Will someone please tell me why this is a bad look for Nebraska?

OP started this thread and has been AWOL since. Now he’s sitting back smiling at the thread he started.

Pot stirring at its finest I tell ya.

Pot stirring? Ijust posted what the guy with the blue checkmark said.

This wouldn’t even be a newsworthy topic if the dad wasn’t an NFL hall of fame QB with a mega platform.
 

timnsun

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Pot stirring? Ijust posted what the guy with the blue checkmark said.

This wouldn’t even be a newsworthy topic if the dad wasn’t an NFL hall of fame QB with a mega platform.
Why post that Warner isn’t happy with Nebraska? Just because Warner is disappointed things didn’t work out doesn’t mean he is not happy with Nebraska. Why not title it differently? You absolutely are stirring the pot. Don’t even try to deny it.
 

BigNUFan51

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Why post that Warner isn’t happy with Nebraska? Just because Warner is disappointed things didn’t work out doesn’t mean he is not happy with Nebraska. Why not title it differently? You absolutely are stirring the pot. Don’t even try to deny it.

Hes Not happy with Nebraska about his kids playing time.
 

poundth3rock

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Quick reminder that AM is the lowest rated QB in the conference when throwing from a clean pocket (gets some blocking).

Quick reminder, AM lead the number two YPG offense in big ten in 2018 when he had a line, running game and some receivers. He is not a good 2nd and 3rd and long QB on below average offense. He was very effective in 2018 when he had a running game and was in run/pass downs on 2nd and 3rd down.
 

poundth3rock

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The problem with this program is that we have far too many players with Kade Warner level talent. That might fly in the MAC, but doesn't cut it in the power 5. Anybody get excited watching this team come out of the tunnel? I don't.

I 100% agree for 2019-2020. I compared the guys playing more to Illinois or low level Big Ten but that team struggled with South Alabama so MAC is probably equally appropriate.

I think the roster and guys that will be playing are much different in 2021.

-After enduring 2019, I am extremely excited to watch the left side of the o-line (Corcoran, Piper Jurgens)
Just being slightly optimistic you could see the overall line being big ten good for next three years
-I am extremely intriqued to see WR core (Betts, Manning, Fidone and Nance) come out of the tunnel.
Those are high level guys and all but one in second year and all winter, spring and fall
I believe that if they are talented they will play along side Martin, Toure and Faulck
WR also has three more 5.7 players including Atlanta that will likely start
-I am curious to see what we have at RB. 3 5.8 level recruits, and 2 5.7 is hardly MAC level
-Who isn't excited for CTB
-I am excited to see if the defense can take the next step against physical big ten teams by taking the run away

Honestly first time I have been excited for a Husker team since David was on roster.
 

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This is such a made up and false narrative. Who cares if Riley is respected in football circles. Riley has been a perpetual loser his entire career.

Show me any player or coach at the top of his game that is well liked. Most are demanding, tough and not well liked. The difference is they win.

Also, show me any son of a professional athlete that isn’t coddled like Spielman, McCaffrey or Warner. What has Spielman done at TCU? Do you expect McCaffrey to be a great QB at his next stop? Will it be easy for Warner to find a new home and make an impact?

Frost isn’t doing anything wrong. Only thing wrong here are the parents that can’t accept their kid being pushed hard (like Spielman) or being passed on the depth chart (Warner and McCaffrey).

That's a damn fine post sir that essentially says it all.
 

poundth3rock

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But we have significantly out recruited the west? How can you not be excited that our talent is better across the board?

You have to string multiple classes together and have development time to turn a roster. You generally see the fruits of recruiting 2-3 years down the road in football. The 2019 and 2020 classes should start having a massive impact on results in 2021.

You have already seen multiple Freshman overtake upperclassmen on the oline. Those guys will develop a great deal in offseason.

You will see same thing at WR with guys like Manning, Betts, Nance and Fidone in 2021
 

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I 100% agree for 2019-2020. I compared the guys playing more to Illinois or low level Big Ten but that team struggled with South Alabama so MAC is probably equally appropriate.

I think the roster and guys that will be playing are much different in 2021.

-After enduring 2019, I am extremely excited to watch the left side of the o-line (Corcoran, Piper Jurgens)
Just being slightly optimistic you could see the overall line being big ten good for next three years
-I am extremely intriqued to see WR core (Betts, Manning, Fidone and Nance) come out of the tunnel.
Those are high level guys and all but one in second year and all winter, spring and fall
I believe that if they are talented they will play along side Martin, Toure and Faulck
WR also has three more 5.7 players including Atlanta that will likely start
-I am curious to see what we have at RB. 3 5.8 level recruits, and 2 5.7 is hardly MAC level
-Who isn't excited for CTB
-I am excited to see if the defense can take the next step against physical big ten teams by taking the run away

Honestly first time I have been excited for a Husker team since David was on roster.

Exactly. The blackshirts annually just keep getting better and the OLine just very well might finally come around.

Now, if we just had a magic wand for our special teams. :)
 

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If you want a slow receiver that also drops passes then step right up.
You know it amazes me how some fans are not satisfied with just wishing a kid transferring well and leaving it at that. There are many kids transferring and many more who will. Are you going to be in constant attack mode with all of them ? You do realize that we lost some kids but also gained some, fight ? I guess it is just a sign of the times to be mean spirited.
To the Warner family (and all the rest of the families of transfers) I hope you don't blame all Husker fans for the minority who are creeps. Most Nebraska fans appreciate the contributions of your son Kade and wish him well.
 

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Here’s my question... how is Nebraska the bad guy here? We gave Kade a walk on spot. We gave him a scholarship. Now HE’s going elsewhere.

Will someone please tell me why this is a bad look for Nebraska?

OP started this thread and has been AWOL since. Now he’s sitting back smiling at the thread he started.

Pot stirring at its finest I tell ya.
I think the biggest indicator here is they posted practice highlights. Not game, but practice.

Anyone think a P5 or any D1 coach is going to jump at three years of NCAA experience and all he has to provide is practice tape?

Sure Kurt is bitter. But that is more about home than Frost or NU.
 

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Here’s my question... how is Nebraska the bad guy here? We gave Kade a walk on spot. We gave him a scholarship. Now HE’s going elsewhere.

Will someone please tell me why this is a bad look for Nebraska?

OP started this thread and has been AWOL since. Now he’s sitting back smiling at the thread he started.

Pot stirring at its finest I tell ya.
It’s a bad look because we have the most transfer requests in the big 10 since the portal opened. We have had 3 losing seasons with frost. Players who are not just backups transfer out. One of the most respected quarterbacks in history seems to be bitter with Nebraska and we can’t trust what our coach says since it’s all “hyperbole” according to you. Like how he said we are committed to play yet allows the players to vote no. So yes it will all point to him until he proves many people wrong. He spoke a big game and bashed some people so now he has to deal with it coming back on him.
 

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I guess I am in the minority in thinking Warner treated Nebraska bad in these tweets. In his original tweet, Warner talked up his son in going from walk-on to scholarship to captain, which frankly is a great accomplishment that I would be proud of as a father. He put up a video. The replies were scathing attacks on Kade, to which I as a father would also respond back. Warner has tweeted really positive things for years and now we want to attack him because he is proud of his son? Don't get it.
 

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Kade Warner can't get off the line against good corners. I think Frost wanted to use Kade as an early tone setter for hard work, but the room didnt evolve as planned and he started from square one again.
 

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It’s a bad look because we have the most transfer requests in the big 10 since the portal opened. We have had 3 losing seasons with frost. Players who are not just backups transfer out. One of the most respected quarterbacks in history seems to be bitter with Nebraska and we can’t trust what our coach says since it’s all “hyperbole” according to you. Like how he said we are committed to play yet allows the players to vote no. So yes it will all point to him until he proves many people wrong. He spoke a big game and bashed some people so now he has to deal with it coming back on him.

Come on. Back up players transfer. Coaches speak coach speak to the media. This isn’t the breaking news, smoking gun, conspiracy stuff you are making it out to be.
 

Huskerz99

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Come on. Back up players transfer. Coaches speak coach speak to the media. This isn’t the breaking news, smoking gun, conspiracy stuff you are making it out to be.
JD started. Wandale started. Luke started. Kade started. Fleming started.
 

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It’s a bad look because we have the most transfer requests in the big 10 since the portal opened. We have had 3 losing seasons with frost. Players who are not just backups transfer out. One of the most respected quarterbacks in history seems to be bitter with Nebraska and we can’t trust what our coach says since it’s all “hyperbole” according to you. Like how he said we are committed to play yet allows the players to vote no. So yes it will all point to him until he proves many people wrong. He spoke a big game and bashed some people so now he has to deal with it coming back on him.
You are going to tremendous lengths to make Nebraska a bad place by taking a former walk on, current backup WR who is transferring, whose father is understandably disappointed his son didn’t see the field more.

Why does everything that happens in the off-season point to a shipwreck for you?
 

timnsun

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JD started. Wandale started. Luke started. Kade started. Fleming started.
Two of those players maintained their starting role, The other three couldn’t maintain it… So I guess by your standard, anybody who has a starting player transfer is in big trouble. Am I getting this right?
 

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JD started. Wandale started. Luke started. Kade started. Fleming started.

Luke was a backup, Kade was a backup, Fleming was a backup that was here like two games. They all had a shot and weren’t good enough or couldn’t stay out of trouble. These are exactly the kind of players that transfer everywhere.
 

Huskerz99

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Two of those players maintained their starting role, The other three couldn’t maintain it… So I guess by your standard, anybody who has a starting player transfer is in big trouble. Am I getting this right?
No. See some programs aren’t in trouble because they win. I think you forget that we still lose. And we have lost more players than any other team so our options to replace said transfers is more limited.
 

Huskerz99

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Luke was a backup, Kade was a backup, Fleming was a backup that was here like two games. They all had a shot and weren’t good enough or couldn’t stay out of trouble. These are exactly the kind of players that transfer everywhere.
They were significant contributors or talents. All these aren’t clearly on Frost they all have their reasons. But we lead the league in transfers per LJS. So eventually you gotta see a red flag.