Or maybe it's totally normal but the WebMD effect has been mass distributed to the entire world.
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except somehow in Asia, where people actually wear masks for the benefit of society in contrast to our selfish approach to everything, it works.
There is a reason the US has the worst virus numbers in the world, and I believe it's directly related to our "me first" driven society, which is the opposite of most the rest of the world.
If you say so. Its been around for 80 years and we still ask everyone to get it every year. Not sure that is the definition of a vaccine. But you probably know more than I.
Very interesting that you choose to blame society instead of understanding that we test more than any place on worth with terrible pcr tests run at absurdly high cycles as to make false positives a significant issue.
Never mind all the football players who have tested positive and then found out it was false.
But yeah it's cuz Asians do it for the good of society.
I wonder what role Americans virtue signalling and imagined moral superiority plays in all of this?
They probably weren't wearing masks correctly because they only care about themselves and not society right? If only they took some tips from Asia.
Seems like every time we turn around there's another example of how this virus behaves like a virus, not how we want it to.
Make no mistake, the rest of the world is me first as well. There you just have to get high enough in government to act on it.
So you think the difference in the numbers, all over the world, is all based on the US testing more?Very interesting that you choose to blame society instead of understanding that we test more than any place on worth with terrible pcr tests run at absurdly high cycles as to make false positives a significant issue.
Never mind all the football players who have tested positive and then found out it was false.
But yeah it's cuz Asians do it for the good of society.
I wonder what role Americans virtue signalling and imagined moral superiority plays in all of this?
That could almost be passable, until you look at the total deaths compared to the rest of the world too.
I suppose you could say we are dying more too.. aka deaths being classified as covid when they shouldn't be..
it just seems odd to me, that however you want to slice and dice it, we aren't handling it as well as the rest of the world is.
If you don't like my theory on it, that is fine, but when I see virtually every other country out there doing better, you have to start asking some questions at the macro level.
And when you look at some of the best countries at handling it, i.e. South Korea, Thailand & Taiwan, then maybe there is something to that too.
I'm not sure how you're deciding it isn't handled as well as the rest of the world, but that is decidedly a load of garbage, as has been rehashed multiple times here.
Don’t worry , Joe’s got a plan....trouble is he can’t remember what it was...
How are death counts any different than case counts? Uzbekistan (or one of those weird countries) just deleted covid from their recording altogether. If we just called every covid death "pneumonia" we would have the fewest covid deaths in the world.
so nobody's numbers are reliable.. I get that.. there likely isn't a single country on the list that has completely reliable data.. but even if you understand that the data is mangled and not 100% correct for everyone, The US still comes in at
#14 in number of deaths per million population.
#7 in total cases per million population
#20th in testing per million population
Everything else on the world of meters site we come in at #1, but because the states are grouped as 1 unit there, comparisons to other countries isn't apples to apples.
So let's look at it like this..
the US has 4.2% of the worlds population, yet nearly 25% of the number of total cases and as of yesterday, 38% of the worlds new cases, 19% of worlds total deaths, and 19% yesterdays world deaths.
If we were even close to handling this well, those numbers would be much closer to the 4.2 percent of the population that the US consists of.
bla bla bla ... this was a terrible virus and all of the developed world -particularly Europe is getting hammered as well. Everyone just bring up "but South Korea" and now they are getting hit and begging for American vaccines to be delivered. We might have better control if we didn't have wide open southern borders and basic personal freedom.
Regardless - I have never heard anything from the Biden group that details any realistic plan to stop this other than the vaccine. The new strain is beyond testing and tracing.
You got your dubious election win - but please give up the notion that Biden would have prevented the COVID 19 outbreak. He doesn't even know what it is.
wow, you're really off the deep end... I'm a Trump supporter.
The way the administration has dealt with this is NOT where I place the blame. If you had read my prior posts above, maybe you would have understood. It doesn't matter who is in power politically, the US was never going to handle this well because of the culture here. That is why we get this outcome, in my opinion.
When you have a society that puts the individual above the group, you get all the benefits of our culture, but also you get some downsides to it too. The whole covid thing has shown both sides of that coin if you're willing to look at it.
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Keep the old and vulnerable at home. Why is this a hard concept? Everyone else should be fine to do what they want.
As a fellow Floridian you have to appreciate how our state stayed open. We also had less deaths than NY even though we have an older population.
California and New York are getting their "SS" taskforces ready to arrest you if you attempt to peaceably assemble.
You cannot say this with a straight face and any notion of statistics and not factor in that the US is doing nearly 2 million tests a day at absurdly high cycles.
This is just foolish and dishonest. And another regurgitated talking point that has been discredited.
The fact remains Democrat governors who sent Ill patients to nursing homes are the number 1 reason the US ranks where it does in deaths. The number 2 reason is the incorrect use of ventilators.
The avg age of death is 82 years old. Not many old sick people live. That has been true for all I'll esses for the last 100 years.
how is it foolish and dishonest? I look at the chart, sort by testing per million in population. US comes up #20.. that means 19 other countries test MORE than we do.
The public health nazis and power hungery libs have only been too happy to "do something" but there has been no indication they care about the unintended consequences. This goes against everything that has been put in place over the last 100+ years. They have literally rewritten their guidelines as they went. It's a farce driven by the bullsh!t news media who will sensationalize anything and are in the bag for leftists.
It's time to open the country. It's time to get everyone back to work.
It's time to open the country. It's time to get everyone back to work.
You looked at a chart and compared per capita, then you go and compare it to total numbers. That's wrong and dishonest. Unless it's just incompetence.
I did no such thing.
per capita is one.. the other was compared to % of population
Using your world meter site the US has done 258 million tests.
83 million more than the next highest country.
And you can't figure out why we have higher total numbers.
Ok buddy.
83 million more than the next highest country.
And you can't figure out why we have higher total numbers.
Ok buddy.
you have problems..
#14 in death per million (this is per capita)
#7 in total cases per million (this is per capita)
#20 in testing per million (this is per capita)
US is 4.2% of the worlds population. At any given time, the daily deaths in this country compared to the rest of the world should also average 4.2%, because that is our percentage of the population.
The rest of those comparisons are percentages of the world population, and much higher than 4.2%.
You clearly don't understand.
see.. you don't want to deal in percentages.. you are dealing in just total numbers, which actually skews things. The same thing you are accusing me of, is what you're doing.. unreal.
Yep you're right. I'm sure the US doing 83 million more tests than the next highest country has nothing to do with it.
Why don't you post all the countries that do more tests than the US per capita. That will surely validate your point right?
you can look and sort the chart yourself. It tells you how many tests are being done per million of people.. The UK does more, so does Israel, Denmark, Singapore, and some others.
but you used the "we do the most testing" as your foundation for why the results are so bad here compared to others, and that argument simply doesn't hold up.
#1 it's not bad here.
#2 no reasonable person would compare the US to Gibraltar or the Falkland Islands and say "see they test more."
#3 The only reason the US ranks where it does in deaths is because of the death sentence from Democrat Governors early on.
Compare to the countries I talked about.
UK tests more per person, but has lower % of their population infected.
same for Israel, Singapore, Denmark, and the UAE.
Take total infections divided by total population per country, and you will see the US at about 6.3% infected.
Those other countries that I mentioned tested more than the US, and yet have smaller infection percentages.
This means more testing does not mean inflated numbers.
I'll do the quick math for you
#20 in testing, the US has an infection rate of 6.3% of the population
#18 in testing, the UK has an infection rate of about 3.9% of the population
#16 in testing, Israel has an infection rate of 4.7% of the population
#14 in testing, Singapore has an infection rate of 1% of the population
#7 in testing, Denmark has an infection rate of 2.9% of the population
#6 in testing, UAE has an infection rate of 2.1% of the population
#20 in testing, the US has a death % of 0.1% of the population
#18 in testing,The UK has a death % of 0.11% of the population
#16 in testing, Israel has a death % of 0.037% of the population
#14 in testing, Singapore has a death % of 0.0005% of the population
#7 in testing, Denmark has a death % of 0.024% of the population
#6 in testing, UAE has a death % of 0.0068% of the population
So only the UK has a slightly higher death %..
Again, the idea that more testing is inflating the numbers doesn't seem to add up, as all of these countries test more per capita than we have and have a lower population infection rate.
UK is probably the only reasonable comparison as far as testing.
Comparing a country with 330 million people to one with 5 or 10 million is ridiculous.
The only issue with this is that not all tests are the same, so there aren't any constant variables to use. Not saying that makes our numbers better or worse, just that its not an exact comparison.
I agree, and we know the numbers are not 100% right either, for any country. I just don't see how one can make the cause/effect statement when the data doesn't back that up in percentages.
Maybe the outcome is more related to our diet, and number of obese people.. I'd buy that argument over the too much testing one.