OT-Please don't lecture me
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In terms of margins Josh is incorrect. 1936, 1940, 1944, 1952, 1956, 1964, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996 and 2008.
Socialism - does not demand equal outcomes, compatible with individual liberty and democracy.
Communism - full state control, demand for equal outcomes in pure forms. Not compatible with individual liberty or democracy.
No, you are the clueless one. They have enough similarities that anyone with a brain is terrified by both.
From History . com, paraphrased for brevity ------>
*Both socialism and communism are essentially economic philosophies advocating public rather than private ownership, especially of the means of production, distribution and exchange of goods (i.e., making money) in a society.
*Both aim to fix the problems they see as created by a free-market capitalist system, including the exploitation of workers and a widening gulf between rich and poor. (we have unions and laws to address this already)
*Karl Marx, the German political philosopher and economist published The Communist Manifesto in 1848, which included a chapter criticizing early socialist models as utterly unrealistic “utopian” dreams.
*Marx believed the working class would win control over the means of production, forever erasing all classes. (The goal) (guaranteed universal income, sounds nice!)
*Communism is sometimes referred to as revolutionary socialism, originated as a reaction to the Industrial Revolution, and came to be defined as an extreme interpretation of Marx’s theories (oh where do we draw the line?) In fact, Marxists often refer to socialism as the FIRST, NECESSARY phase on the way from capitalism to communism.
You have no credibility and your leaders cannot be trusted. The only ones who want 'democratic socialism' are the elites (more control and accumulation of wealth for themselves) and the non productive class (hey, sounds good, let's redistribute!)
Repeat after me. The United States has a mixed economy, we are not socialist. The United States has a mixed economy, we are not socialist.
Using your definition, interesting, "equal outcomes" in communism. Not Bernie audio, perhaps someone much scarier than Bernie, who thinks "equitable treatment" means we all wind up at the "same place." I especially like how the message is properly stated (gentle music and pictures to help us all agree). It's so important.
Scary, scary stuff, she's just waiting for Biden to start drooling into a cup.
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Yes, as they should. It should probably be higher than that. I've already defined fair share as the benefit one gets from the use of social institutions in generating income.
He knows that giving more to charity isn't going to do jackshit and that it won't do a thing to improve economic outcomes of either the poor or middle class. The only one that's FOS here is you. No one gives a **** that you give 10% to charity, let alone the fact that with overhead costs, you'd be lucky if even 50% of it goes toward programs to help the less fortunate. Not to mention there would be a heck of a lot less fortunate people out there if you improved their economic outcomes in the first place, as Bernie wants to do.
Wow. I see happy hour started real early today.
Please enlighten me. I’m a well-paid manager, and according to you I’m paid well because I use social institutions to generate my wealth. Please do explain.
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How much do you think the government takes before it trickles down to the less fortunate?
Why didn’t this form of economy work in Venezuela or Cuba.
Please come on down to South Florida, and speak with some Cubans. I don’t care what your college professor “taught” you, it’s incorrect.
If the GOP does its job in the Senate it won't matter. How confident are you in the Turtle?
Tell that to a charity the next time they ask for your help.
How does that make me FOS exactly? Also, tell that to those I have given to. You see I put my money & time where my mouth is and actually give to those in need.
Seems to me you probably don't give much to charity if any at all because you think it doesn't do enough. That along with you saying "It's not like charity ever comes without strings attached." Again, wtf? This narrow mindedness thinking is quite amazing (sad actually) in that the only way the less fortunate can benefit from others is by giving them money through some government program.
You keep skirting around my point. His plan isn't in place now so until then, as a rich man, why doesn't he give more to those in need now? It would go a long way.
Gloating? Do you feel validated that a senile old man in his late 70s who is beholden to the extreme left defeated a easily disliked uncivil non-politician? Many Republicans didn't vote for Trump just because of his personal behavior. I wouldn't trumpet the number of ballots cast in this election given the likelihood that there was wide spread fraud involving the mail in ballots. Of course that's nothing new for Democrat strongholds.
Unfortunately our other branches of the government have allowed recent Presidents to impose law via executive orders. That is an act that needs to be strongly reined in by the legislative and judicial branches of government. Also unfortunately it would take a bi-partisan effort from forward thinking leaders of both parties. Probably not happening. A sitting President that willfully orders agencies to not enforce existing laws should be removed from office.
I pay over 50% in federal tax every year on the net next dollar I make after about April 15th. Should I quit being a productive income and job generating person on that date? When the tax rate on highly productive high earning self-employed individuals returns to the 85%+ rates (includes the 15..3% self employment tax) of the pre-Reagan era, we'll return quickly to the economic malaise of the Jimmy Carter years.
This country was built and continues to built by financial incentives to work hard. When we start inhibiting that incentive by reducing the return on that investment of time and resources, our nation will decline.
I have confidence in the turtle, but the left has a strong media behind it, and if the social pressures get to just a few, it's curtains. Just wondering if these staunch liberals are concerned about a communist ideologist running the Country.
Why would Massa Joe Biden choose a guy who wants to kill seniors off to be on his Corona taskforce.
well look what they did to nursing homes in all of those nursing homes in the northeast and Michigan.
Give everyone equal opportunity and there will not be equal outcomes is my reply. Also don't be a raging narcissistic ******* and you get reelected easily.
That would be on the presumption that everyone is equal.
What if you are a middle-aged, overweight, atheist school teacher that likes to tweet all day long. You would have to consider yourself unequal going into this equal opportunity, right? A person like this would bring no value to the equation. Right? I mean they would probably be relegated to calling certain individuals 'raging narcissistic ********'. Again, showing their unequalness because they serve no purpose.
That's not good enough. Your elected supreme leader of the land said it's only equal if the results are equal for everyone. The commies are soon to be in charge, but at least they deliver their propoganda in a soft and gentle fashion so as to make us all feel super extra special wonderful fantastic loved.
Considering trump only needs three of those states the lead is only 75000 votes and Shrinking
You can live by the Costanza theory, don't you
Also, you really get mad when something doesn't go your way.
I already explained this. The workforce you manage was educated by public institutions. If they weren't, they wouldn't be near as capable and you wouldn't be making near as much salary. I imagine your department might have some IP that's valuable to the company. Well if there weren't any social institutions to protect that IP, a hacker could easily steal the IP and any ideas you come up with. If you make any physical products, those are likely to be shipped on public roads. Take away the social institutions and you have no job and no wealth.
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