It happened again! We must stop this!!!!

steinek11

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You won’t hear me arguing for abortions, I don’t want to see any, ever. But banging the pro-life drum, then denying tax credits and stimulus dollars for the unborn is hypocrisy at its worst. Living in a country founded on being freed from a government that dictated religion, then trying to force your own religion on others is super special. Claiming you are pro-life while also claiming to be pro death penalty is just flabbergasting.
Roughly 22 executions per year in America of mostly men that have murdered innocent people as found guilty by a trial of peers, versus over 850,000 murdered innocent babies every year. Tell you what, we'll take execution of criminals off the table if you stop the wholesale slaughter of the unborn. Is that a fair trade-off?
 

catch54

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You judge a person's Christianity on their immigration policy and welfare policy? I actually don't know what Biden's policies are, and be probably doesn't either.

What are the failures of the church, and which church are you speaking of?

oh yeah, how many homeless have your brought in and how many hungry have you fed.

For starters church is a waste of time. I didn't need anybody really to tell me right from wrong. Or basic decent civic behavior. Of course the churches are pristine and clean. Meanwhile many people sleep in the cold. And block our streets such as in SF.

Maybe many church goers could sleep late on Sunday mornings. The extra rest could make them a little less uptight. ... here comes the hate.
 

catch54

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Roughly 22 executions per year in America of mostly men that have murdered innocent people as found guilty by a trial of peers, versus over 850,000 murdered innocent babies every year. Tell you what, we'll take execution of criminals off the table if you stop the wholesale slaughter of the unborn. Is that a fair trade-off?

Do you consider women who self abort with coat hangers "wholesale slaughter"?
 

MOHUSKER

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You judge a person's Christianity on their immigration policy and welfare policy? I actually don't know what Biden's policies are, and be probably doesn't either.

What are the failures of the church, and which church are you speaking of?

oh yeah, how many homeless have your brought in and how many hungry have you fed.

I am not trying to judge, it’s a honest question. I can point to plenty of verses about caring for the poor, embracing the foreigners, I can’t seem to find any that say ignore all of this and become completely rigid on one issue at the expense of character, civil discourse and common decency.

As far as efforts to help the homeless and feed the needy? Not as many as I would like, that’s for sure. And I’m for sure not going to brag in regards to my efforts to help others, but I’m pretty comfortable in my efforts overall.
 

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You won’t hear me arguing for abortions, I don’t want to see any, ever. But banging the pro-life drum, then denying tax credits and stimulus dollars for the unborn is hypocrisy at its worst. Living in a country founded on being freed from a government that dictated religion, then trying to force your own religion on others is super special. Claiming you are pro-life while also claiming to be pro death penalty is just flabbergasting.

Are you this bad? The law is that babies in the womb do not have rights. Are they even considered human? How is it hypocrisy to deny money to a something that doesn't have rights? Not allocating money for a fetus is EXACTLY what liberals should expect, and want. Doing so runs the risk of the argument that the thing inside the uterus may actually mean something.

What's that? Forcing your own beliefs onto others? Like the Supreme Court did in 1972? And let's try this one out, do you think that there is an argument to be made (outside of religion) that abortion is an overall bad thing for a person / society? Because if so, it doesn't have to be about religion, all though I know that is what you want it to be about.

God bless this Country.
 

steinek11

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And let’s make this clear, the failures of the church to care for the poor and the needy has left a gap. How anyone can sit there with indifference to the plight of those people, while clearing throngs of people with gas to have a photo op with a bible is beyond me.
Jm, what does the Bible say about a man who will not work? Not really the path I intended to go down, but you seem like a good Bible scholar so I assume your familiar with the passage I'm referring to so stop the cherry picking.
 

Lincoln100

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For starters church is a waste of time. I didn't need anybody really to tell me right from wrong. Or basic decent civic behavior. Of course the churches are pristine and clean. Meanwhile many people sleep in the cold. And block our streets such as in SF.

Maybe many church goers could sleep late on Sunday mornings. The extra rest could make them a little less uptight. ... here comes the hate.
You got it figured out. Alright.
 

big red23

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UPDATE - the odds you posted were for popular vote & now make perfect sense.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

Here is an impartial site... Shows Biden is heavily favored in the following battle ground states

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan

Moderately favored...

Pennsylvania

Slightly favored...

Arizona
Georgia
Florida
North Carolina

Trump is not heavily favored in any battle ground states but has a slight lead in...

Texas
Iowa
Ohio
 

JoelBittner

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How many homeless have you brought into your house? How many hungry have you invited in and prepared them dinner? Because if you haven't done this, then we all know what kind of person you are.

He hasn't really done those type of things. But he did burn down a Wendys in solidarity with the disenfranchised, which had the unfortunate side-effect of adding 25 members of that very group to the unemployment lines.
Leftist love works in mysterious ways.
 

catch54

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Jm, what does the Bible say about a man who will not work? Not really the path I intended to go down, but you seem like a good Bible scholar so I assume your familiar with the passage I'm referring to so stop the cherry picking.

What does the bible say about a man who wants to work but can't find work? Especially work for a reasonable living wages?

Before you assume what many assume, I am not for a high minimum wage or a living income. I am for a healthy growing economy where people say they can choose among multiple job offers.
 

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That's accurate and it's going to have the wrong effect. Republicans overwhelmingly are not worried about this virus, but Democrats are terrified of it. The difference in news from CNN versus Breitbart is shocking.

The difference is Dems are Testosterone Deficient.
 

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I am not trying to judge, it’s a honest question. I can point to plenty of verses about caring for the poor, embracing the foreigners, I can’t seem to find any that say ignore all of this and become completely rigid on one issue at the expense of character, civil discourse and common decency.

As far as efforts to help the homeless and feed the needy? Not as many as I would like, that’s for sure. And I’m for sure not going to brag in regards to my efforts to help others, but I’m pretty comfortable in my efforts overall.

Of course you're judging. You are judging the failures of churches (aka they don't do enough), you are judging those on the right who may require certain qualifications to receive benefits or citizenship (aka they don't do enough). However, in your life, while I'm certain that you could do much, much more to help the needy, you think you do enough and are quite comfortable with your effort. I don't think that you do enough.
 

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Stopping the murder of babies is a good start
Abortion is the civil rights issue of our time.

Not a smart idea to have people run the country who turn a blind eye to genocide of the most innocent and helpless.
 

steinek11

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He hasn't really done those type of things. But he did burn down a Wendys in solidarity with the disenfranchised, which had the unfortunate side-effect of adding 25 members of that very group to the unemployment lines.
Leftist love works in mysterious ways.
And those jerks burned down my favorite liquor store in Minneapolis. 40 people in the neighborhood now out of jobs. Lot of good those social justice warriors did
 

steinek11

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

Here is an impartial site... Shows Biden is heavily favored in the following battle ground states

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan

Moderately favored...

Pennsylvania

Slightly favored...

Arizona
Georgia
Florida
North Carolina

Trump is not heavily favored in any battle ground states but has a slight lead in...

Texas
Iowa
Ohio
Don't you dare edit this post, we're going to want to revisit it in about 5 hours. Red Wave baby
 

big red23

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Don't you dare edit this post, we're going to want to revisit it in about 5 hours. Red Wave baby
👍🏻

Only if you promise not to jump the gun and not say it is rigged if it doesn't go your way?

I'm just posting information from a site, you know you will not be proving me wrong if Trump wins right?
 

RedMyMind

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👍🏻

Only if you promise not to jump the gun and not say it is rigged if it doesn't go your way?

I'm just posting information from a site, you know you will not be proving me wrong if Trump wins right?
It is indeed much more likely that an election such as this is "rigged" in the favor of the candidate that isn't Trump. Not saying it is rigged, but the likelihood of it happening isn't unfathomable.
 

steinek11

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I am not trying to judge, it’s a honest question. I can point to plenty of verses about caring for the poor, embracing the foreigners, I can’t seem to find any that say ignore all of this and become completely rigid on one issue at the expense of character, civil discourse and common decency.

As far as efforts to help the homeless and feed the needy? Not as many as I would like, that’s for sure. And I’m for sure not going to brag in regards to my efforts to help others, but I’m pretty comfortable in my efforts overall.

Here's the truth about immigration:



But go ahead and hang on to your flawed narrative. It's a nice topic at cocktail parties.
 

big red23

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It is indeed much more likely that an election such as this is "rigged" in the favor of the candidate that isn't Trump. Not saying it is rigged, but the likelihood of it happening isn't unfathomable.
All I'm saying is if things do end up the way this site predicts based on all kinds of data research, can we finally call a spade a spade? The only people that think the election is rigged is on the right side. If Trump wins I will say congrats, the guy beat the odds again
 

RedMyMind

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All I'm saying is if things do end up the way this site predicts based on all kinds of data research, can we finally call a spade a spade? The only people that think the election is rigged is on the right side. If Trump wins I will say congrats, the guy beat the odds again
the left have for the past 4 years said the previous election was rigged and are ready to cause unrest if he wins again. They gaslight all the time, so it is natural is be on guard. They accuse the other side of that which they are guilty of.
 

steinek11

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All I'm saying is if things do end up the way this site predicts based on all kinds of data research, can we finally call a spade a spade? The only people that think the election is rigged is on the right side. If Trump wins I will say congrats, the guy beat the odds again
I can't speak to how wide spread the rigging is or how effective, but there's dozens of examples of small time hustlers trying to sway votes in just the last 24 hours.
 

JoelBittner

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I can't speak to how wide spread the rigging is or how effective, but there's dozens of examples of small time hustlers trying to sway votes in just the last 24 hours.

The attorney general of Pennsylvania said that Trump has lost in his state ... he said that yesterday. What does that tell you?
 

RedMyMind

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disgraced FBI director

 

steinek11

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So I see Teachers as a big blue circle... Yeah they make "Elite" money. It is more "people" are reaching out to help the Biden campaign
And why would they want to help the Biden camp? Is is because the profession is overrun by the parasitic teacher unions? We need to ignore poor results and keep those meanies away from our bloated budgets.

"The teachers unions are guilty of all the problems common to all public sector unions. They, too, have negotiated unsustainable rates of pay and benefits. They, too, elect their own bosses, negotiate inefficient work rules, have an insatiable need for more public funds, and protect incompetent members." SOURCE - California Policy Center, Aug 1, 2018

My apology to teachers. There are many fine ones everywhere, so I'm not singling anyone out. But the unions plain suck.
 

big red23

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And why would they want to help the Biden camp? Is is because the profession is overrun by the parasitic teacher unions? We need to ignore poor results and keep those meanies away from our bloated budgets.

"The teachers unions are guilty of all the problems common to all public sector unions. They, too, have negotiated unsustainable rates of pay and benefits. They, too, elect their own bosses, negotiate inefficient work rules, have an insatiable need for more public funds, and protect incompetent members." SOURCE - California Policy Center, Aug 1, 2018

My apology to teachers. There are many fine ones everywhere, so I'm not singling anyone out. But the unions plain suck.
Lol turn it however you want, I wouldn't expect it any other way
 

RedMyMind

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First... could be a doctored up photo

but...

Disgrace? Um Trump has been calling him a liar for how long now? Why the F should he be wearing a Trump 2020 shirt?
Not Doctored.
Shows Comey to be a lying, partisan hack
 

big red23

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Not Doctored.
Shows Comey to be a lying, partisan hack
To tell you the truth the picture puts a smile on my face... I'd bet you anything he voted for both Bush's, Romney and any other civilized conservative. It has nothing to do partisanship, it has to do with him voting for normalcy again