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Capdanjou

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fyi- half of america believes that Trumps vision of pro american is not actually pro american. So you might want to have a conversation with people other than those that think just like you. the definition of pro-americas is different for different people and your definition is not the right definition to millions of other people. im not saying who is right or wrong. just saying pro american is based SOLELY on individual opinion. trump is anti-American to millions of americans. if you dont understand why then you need to talk to people outside of those you normally talk with.
More than half of country do not share his vision. On a great many issues the antipathy for Trump is portrayed as binary, or a 50-50 split, it isn't. A majority, in some cases a sizable majority, profoundly dislike him and his policies.
 

RedMyMind

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I think you got the roles reversed. He is an insult machine, unless you lick his boots, as you clearly do, then he'll say something nice about you, until he decides he doesn't need you anymore, then he turns back to slander. The guy has been involved in thousands of lawsuits in his life. That speaks to a spectacular level of nasty. And while we're at it, what's nasty about calling out racism, calling out social injustices. Taste of their own medicine. Give me an example of what you are talking about.
Cancel culture is a left thing
 

Lincoln100

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More than half of country do not share his vision. On a great many issues the antipathy for Trump is portrayed as binary, or a 50-50 split, it isn't. A majority, in some cases a sizable majority, profoundly dislike him and his policies.
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steinek11

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More than half of country do not share his vision. On a great many issues the antipathy for Trump is portrayed as binary, or a 50-50 split, it isn't. A majority, in some cases a sizable majority, profoundly dislike him and his policies.
Which of these do they dislike the most? Higher employment, lower energy costs, lower healthcare costs, freedom of speech, protection of the Constitution, Middle East peace and the end of wars, standing up to China, better American trade deals, lower taxes?

Seriously, what are people like you in favor of other than the unlimited murder of the unborn, rampant gender confusion, censorship, and relentless micro grievances?
 

jimmyjoseph

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I can give you 5 examples of the complete opposite of people over 70 with very bad health problems that had it and said it was nothing to them. Go figure
so are you actually arguing that because you know 5 old people who didn't die from COVID that should offset 5 people who either died or were hospitalized for it? wow dude what a douche. just an ounce of compassion would make u part human. this is why many people consider many conservatives, not all, to only care about themselves. and it seems justified in this case.
 

jimmyjoseph

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That’s what you’re for, dad!
sure thats what Dads are for. Unfortunately, our kids are influenced by a lot of other people. thats why we care who they hang out with and talk to on social media. its a little disgusting that most of the country and many republicans would not want their kids to act like our President. if you are still picking the president despite this fact then you are only doing it for personal gain. and i think thats what's wrong and so does the bible and most pastors.
 

Lincoln100

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sure thats what Dads are for. Unfortunately, our kids are influenced by a lot of other people. thats why we care who they hang out with and talk to on social media. its a little disgusting that most of the country and many republicans would not want their kids to act like our President. if you are still picking the president despite this fact then you are only doing it for personal gain. and i think thats what's wrong and so does the bible and most pastors.

You go to the bible to support a vote for Biden over Trump? This is an all-timer. Where's wordyginters, that guy says he got his pastoral license, presumably on-line in 5 minutes, but I bet he's got a hot-take here.

 
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sure thats what Dads are for. Unfortunately, our kids are influenced by a lot of other people. thats why we care who they hang out with and talk to on social media. its a little disgusting that most of the country and many republicans would not want their kids to act like our President. if you are still picking the president despite this fact then you are only doing it for personal gain. and i think thats what's wrong and so does the bible and most pastors.
I assume you voluntarily pay more in taxes, then, too?
 

steinek11

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sure thats what Dads are for. Unfortunately, our kids are influenced by a lot of other people. thats why we care who they hang out with and talk to on social media. its a little disgusting that most of the country and many republicans would not want their kids to act like our President. if you are still picking the president despite this fact then you are only doing it for personal gain. and i think thats what's wrong and so does the bible and most pastors.
Nope, try again. Modern Democrats have built their entire agenda as anti-God. Please refer to Romans 1 for evidence of this . This isn't your grandfather's or even father's Democrat Party.
 

Lincoln100

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sure thats what Dads are for. Unfortunately, our kids are influenced by a lot of other people. thats why we care who they hang out with and talk to on social media. its a little disgusting that most of the country and many republicans would not want their kids to act like our President. if you are still picking the president despite this fact then you are only doing it for personal gain. and i think thats what's wrong and so does the bible and most pastors.

If it makes you feel better, if people gave two sh!ts to do their own research on Biden, they'd not choose his path for their child either. This notion that Biden is anything more than total and complete sell-out and farce is comical. The guy has about as much principle as a vacuum cleaner, but you keep those blinders on and keep thinking that he's some righteous and compassionate leader.
 

ChristmasBOnus

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Nope, but your mention of BLM proves my point. You are furthering racist propaganda when you attack BLM. By the way, I have never defended antifa, so you can stop with that nonsense. BLM, on the other hand is a social movement for racial equality, that you link them with antifa shows where you stand, and your pose is very unflattering.
I think if you follow the rabbit hole far enough you will find antifa and blm have the same master(s) those organizations are heavily funded, don't fall for the organic origin.....Think ...think...for yourself
 

catch54

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So your answer to government ruining things is... More government. Comical, but sad.

None of this was political until you started posting. But if your posts are representative of the state of the Democratic party it's no surprise blue states are such in such overtaxed disarray.

Go clutch your pearls over Roe somewhere else.

I have worked in both the private sector and government. There are idiots everywhere.
 

catch54

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Which of these do they dislike the most? Higher employment, lower energy costs, lower healthcare costs, freedom of speech, protection of the Constitution, Middle East peace and the end of wars, standing up to China, better American trade deals, lower taxes?

Seriously, what are people like you in favor of other than the unlimited murder of the unborn, rampant gender confusion, censorship, and relentless micro grievances?

Higher federal debt. Very little progress on poverty or better healthcare. Under Trump.
 

MOHUSKER

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Nope, try again. Modern Democrats have built their entire agenda as anti-God. Please refer to Romans 1 for evidence of this . This isn't your grandfather's or even father's Democrat Party.

All men are fallen, pretending that the right is “pro-god” is willful ignorance. Especially when the leader of that side has dozens of sexual abuse allegations, multiple divorces, is on record saying it’s good to grab women by the ... Combine that with being “pro-life” while screaming for the death penalty, mocking those born with disabilities, NEVER turning the other cheek. And despite being told to put down their swords in defense of his life, somehow his followers think they are commanded to pick up assault rifles or something. Then let’s look at treatment of the poor, the aliens among us and how they are treated.

I don’t look at the Trump platform and see anything other than abortion control that aligns with anything in the neighborhood of Christianity that I’ve studied.
 

WHCSC

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All men are fallen, pretending that the right is “pro-god” is willful ignorance. Especially when the leader of that side has dozens of sexual abuse allegations, multiple divorces, is on record saying it’s good to grab women by the ... Combine that with being “pro-life” while screaming for the death penalty, mocking those born with disabilities, NEVER turning the other cheek. And despite being told to put down their swords in defense of his life, somehow his followers think they are commanded to pick up assault rifles or something. Then let’s look at treatment of the poor, the aliens among us and how they are treated.

I don’t look at the Trump platform and see anything other than abortion control that aligns with anything in the neighborhood of Christianity that I’ve studied.

Stopping the murder of babies is a good start
 

Lincoln100

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All men are fallen, pretending that the right is “pro-god” is willful ignorance. Especially when the leader of that side has dozens of sexual abuse allegations, multiple divorces, is on record saying it’s good to grab women by the ... Combine that with being “pro-life” while screaming for the death penalty, mocking those born with disabilities, NEVER turning the other cheek. And despite being told to put down their swords in defense of his life, somehow his followers think they are commanded to pick up assault rifles or something. Then let’s look at treatment of the poor, the aliens among us and how they are treated.

I don’t look at the Trump platform and see anything other than abortion control that aligns with anything in the neighborhood of Christianity that I’ve studied.

jmliar gonna jmliar. Note that Drubendall's response was directed at another poster (in your camp) espousing the good of Biden by implication. That's generally how it works, Liberals feigning moral and intellectual superiority and attacking others, and then the others respond to point out the hypocrisy (and lies) of the Liberals, then the Liberal's responding again (not understanding what just happened, kinda like you).

Conservativism is certainly more in line with biblical teaching than is liberalism. That's not even debatable, well, not for the sane anyways.
 

Lincoln100

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Stopping the murder of babies is a good start
They aren't babies until they're born, they are something else that is baby-like, but still not a baby. It's not a heart that is stopped or a spine sucked up or skull that is crushed, it is something heart-like, or spine-like, or skull-like. Need to say, it's "science," the party of "science" is all over this one.
 

MOHUSKER

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Stopping the murder of babies is a good start

You won’t hear me arguing for abortions, I don’t want to see any, ever. But banging the pro-life drum, then denying tax credits and stimulus dollars for the unborn is hypocrisy at its worst. Living in a country founded on being freed from a government that dictated religion, then trying to force your own religion on others is super special. Claiming you are pro-life while also claiming to be pro death penalty is just flabbergasting.
 

WHCSC

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They aren't babies until they're born, they are something else that is baby-like, but still not a baby. It's not a heart that is stopped or a spine sucked up or skull that is crushed, it is something heart-like, or spine-like, or skull-like.

Actually they want to be able to kill them after they're delivered too
 

WHCSC

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You won’t hear me arguing for abortions, I don’t want to see any, ever. But banging the pro-life drum, then denying tax credits and stimulus dollars for the unborn is hypocrisy at its worst. Living in a country founded on being freed from a government that dictated religion, then trying to force your own religion on others is super special. Claiming you are pro-life while also claiming to be pro death penalty is just flabbergasting.

I'm not pro death penalty.

The right to life "trumps" all other rights
 

GBRforLife1

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You won’t hear me arguing for abortions, I don’t want to see any, ever. But banging the pro-life drum, then denying tax credits and stimulus dollars for the unborn is hypocrisy at its worst. Living in a country founded on being freed from a government that dictated religion, then trying to force your own religion on others is super special. Claiming you are pro-life while also claiming to be pro death penalty is just flabbergasting.
This all or nothing mindset is a hindrance, not a virtue.
 

Lincoln100

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Actually they want to be able to kill them after they're delivered too

I thought that was only partial birth abortion. If they aren't totally born, and only partially born, they aren't a total baby, they are only a partial baby, and so it's still ok.
 

MOHUSKER

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jmliar gonna jmliar. Note that Drubendall's response was directed at another poster (in your camp) espousing the good of Biden by implication. That's generally how it works, Liberals feigning moral and intellectual superiority and attacking others, and then the others respond to point out the hypocrisy (and lies) of the Liberals, then the Liberal's responding again (not understanding what just happened, kinda like you).

Conservativism is certainly more in line with biblical teaching than is liberalism. That's not even debatable, well, not for the sane anyways.

Coming from the potato that either chooses to use two accounts, or isn’t intelligent enough to figure out how to log out and back in on another device that means a whole lot.

Show me in the Bible where it suggests Christians should work to FORCE people to live under Mosaic law. Nobody was FORCED in the OT, and certainly nobody in the NT. Maybe they just omitted Jesus words where he called people libtards, maybe his feeding of the 5000 came with employment requirements, citizenship papers needed and drug testing. Maybe the grace promised was really intended to be controlled by angry, racially charged white men millennia later and they just forgot those footnotes?
 

MOHUSKER

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I'm not pro death penalty.

The right to life "trumps" all other rights

Unless you are deemed worthy of death, then that’s somehow different...

The only right we have, is the right to grace overall as humans.
 

GBRforLife1

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Dead or live babies are not up for election and have nothing to do with football deaths that are all the way up to ZERO and cases are "SPIKING!!!" And "Surging!" And we are entering the "deadliest phase yet!" (You can tell because football deaths are up to zero). Don't you know we're in a pandemic? You all want to kill grandma with your football games, what's a few babies anyway? Cases, cases, cases!!! Focus on the cases!
 

catch54

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That's true. But there are more idiots at higher positions in govt.

Not necessarily. And don't forget management in Government agencies are often constrained by Congress not wanting to spend dollars upfront to modernize that can save dollars in the not so distant future. However I had one boss that barely knew Excel. But everyone liked him because he was a nice guy.
 
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Lincoln100

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Coming from the potato that either chooses to use two accounts, or isn’t intelligent enough to figure out how to log out and back in on another device that means a whole lot.

Show me in the Bible where it suggests Christians should work to FORCE people to live under Mosaic law. Nobody was FORCED in the OT, and certainly nobody in the NT. Maybe they just omitted Jesus words where he called people libtards, maybe his feeding of the 5000 came with employment requirements, citizenship papers needed and drug testing. Maybe the grace promised was really intended to be controlled by angry, racially charged white men millennia later and they just forgot those footnotes?
Now you got me. My indifference to my screen name has come back to bite me, in a big way. Your game is good, too good.

And that analogy is, whoa, I mean, right to the heart my man. Beautiful. Let everyone and anyone come, and give them anything and everything they ask for. That is the answer, and if you aren't on board, you clearly are not a good Christian. Truly insightful and significant mental bandwidth, thank you. If everyone just did what you did. How many homeless have you brought into your house? How many hungry have you invited in and prepared them dinner? Because if you haven't done this, then we all know what kind of person you are.
 

MOHUSKER

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Now you got me. My indifference to my screen name has come back to bite me, in a big way. Your game is good, too good.

And that analogy is, whoa, I mean, right to the heart my man. Beautiful. Let everyone and anyone come, and give them anything and everything they ask for. That is the answer, and if you aren't on board, you clearly are not a good Christian. Truly insightful and significant mental bandwidth, thank you. If everyone just did what you did. How many homeless have you brought into your house? How many hungry have you invited in and prepared them dinner? Because if you haven't done this, then we all know what kind of person you are.

I mean, isn’t that exactly what the Bible teaches? Does the current religious right model that behavior? Beliefs are beliefs, I’m just honestly perplexed that such a huge portion of people equate a person like Trump as a champion of Christianity. At no point do I think Biden is that dude either, but his behavior is far closer to what I would expect than Trump.

And let’s make this clear, the failures of the church to care for the poor and the needy has left a gap. How anyone can sit there with indifference to the plight of those people, while clearing throngs of people with gas to have a photo op with a bible is beyond me.
 

GBRforLife1

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I mean, isn’t that exactly what the Bible teaches? Does the current religious right model that behavior? Beliefs are beliefs, I’m just honestly perplexed that such a huge portion of people equate a person like Trump as a champion of Christianity. At no point do I think Biden is that dude either, but his behavior is far closer to what I would expect than Trump.

And let’s make this clear, the failures of the church to care for the poor and the needy has left a gap. How anyone can sit there with indifference to the plight of those people, while clearing throngs of people with gas to have a photo op with a bible is beyond me.
Gees you guys must be bored. Can't we go back to debating how many grandma's we're going to kill?
 

Lincoln100

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I mean, isn’t that exactly what the Bible teaches? Does the current religious right model that behavior? Beliefs are beliefs, I’m just honestly perplexed that such a huge portion of people equate a person like Trump as a champion of Christianity. At no point do I think Biden is that dude either, but his behavior is far closer to what I would expect than Trump.

And let’s make this clear, the failures of the church to care for the poor and the needy has left a gap. How anyone can sit there with indifference to the plight of those people, while clearing throngs of people with gas to have a photo op with a bible is beyond me.

You judge a person's Christianity on their immigration policy and welfare policy? I actually don't know what Biden's policies are, and be probably doesn't either.

What are the failures of the church, and which church are you speaking of?

oh yeah, how many homeless have your brought in and how many hungry have you fed.
 
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