So, what happened to playing fast?
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Vedral had it mentally, but couldn't do it physically IMHO. Milton was special. He had defenses on their heels at all times. I'm hoping Smothers or MacCaffrey has some of that. Don't see it in 2AM.
You do realize that there was no way we were winning a shootout against OSU right? Expecially once they realized there wasn't a chance in hell of going deep on them.
The gameplan was to slow the game down and try to survive close. Just like 2 years ago. Against anyone that isn't one of the best teams in the past decade? We'll speed up again.
The gameplan was to slow the game down and try to survive close. Just like 2 years ago. Against anyone that isn't one of the best teams in the past decade? We'll speed up again.
I hope to see it. It's a fun style of football. I just want Frost to go to the podium and pull out a tried and true BC quote. "We take what we want"
Frosts offense only plays fast when it gets teams in a bad match up and then he exploits that matchup until his team scores or that match up makes an adjustment or the defense calls a time out. Even his undefeated UCF team only ran about 71 plays per game. His Oregon teams ran 75ish in the offensive minded PAC. By contrast Nebraska ran about 72 plays per last year
I'd like to know his plays over 20 yards at UCF versus Oregon. UCF broke off so many plays that went to the house. His defense played a lot because his offense scored quickly and often.
Best I can come up with quickly was yards per play.
Oregon 14 - 7.34
Oregon 15 - 7.05
UCF 16 - 4.68
UCF 17 - 7.46
Nebraska 19 - 5.76
Pretty much tells the story though
I would also like to see more up tempo. I think it’s a great way to attack a defense. They have the OL depth, but will need WR depth to make it really work.
Then, gotta make sure defense is getting stops and not giving up long drives.
Then, gotta make sure defense is getting stops and not giving up long drives.
I think you will see us pick up the tempo at times. I think last week if we tried to uptempo OSU the entire game they might have hung 70 on us with the rate we were turning it over.
The defense has to get some stops, but overall, his offense sets the tone of the game and puts the opponent into react mode. They have to change their gameplan if they're falling behind on the score. He's not even all that concerned about the defense, other than they should get some takeaways for the offense. With Frost, the offense has to be dynamic.
Everybody else does it. Frost is a copycat of the Oregon offense, but his generation of coaches are also copy cats of things that work. Defense is dead because of the limits on contact and you can play fast if the other team plays slow, but if both teams are adept at going fast then the the team that makes the fewer mistakes, turns the ball over the least, and gets off the field on 3rd down is going to win every time. We are really bad when it comes to efficiency...turnovers, getting off the field on 3rd down, and field position. I would not be surprised one bit if Frost changes to a massive oline, and option style attack over time, with power. If would likely extend his job and we would at least be unique.
So we would become Wisconsin after Wisconsin copied us from the days of old? Only with more option. It's a pretty good formula, because I want the running backs to take the lion's share of carries. But, I don't like seeing our quarterbacks being met by three or four defenders so often. In the past we had Runners who could throw. Frost needs throwers who can run a little bit just to move the chains.
DIdn't we just have like 7.5 yds a play against OSU though to kick off the season?
Doesn't do you any good to play fast when you don't have the horses to do it. All that accomplishes is punting FAST. Which hurts our defense also.
If we ever get some weapons out wide I think you will see more of the up tempo stuff. But as long as Falck, Leiwer, and Warner are 3 of our top 4 WRs I don't expect to see much up tempo stuff.
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The controversy around our wide receivers is the biggest mystery with this program. He's recruited a ton of them but we have little to show for it yet. Stanley Morgan and Spielman could play a bit, but they weren't his guys. Time for his guys to step up
Shot in the dark, but maybe when he said he wanted to combine Oregon Speed and Husker Power, he literally meant that. Oregon speed at the skill positions, but a little slower tempo and with power like Husker Power.
Yup it's the biggest enigma in the program. I actually remember thinking WR is the last position I would worry about as long as Frost and his offense is here. Unfortunately I was completely wrong. WR and OLB have literally been bad so far since they have been here.
Ok on paper but nothing to show on the field. It's hard to make any opinions based on the last class with Manning,Betts, Fleming,Brown,and Nixon as they are just a year removed. But we are hearing that all those guys minus Nixon(injury) are "on the come". But man that class before that with guys like Houston and Nance is a no show (besides Wandale). Class before that ended up flaming out as well.
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Yeah it seems like we've found ourselves in "year 1" with the WR development somehow now that Lubick has taken over the position group. I don't understand why other programs can get major contributions from freshman WRs and we can't seem to even get them on the field if their name isn't Wan'dale.
Feels like a team that doesn't know what plays to call because a different guy screws something up every time you run a play. I'm not sure they've focused enough on getting good at some core philosophies instead of trying to draw up ways to get 9 different guys the ball or throw it to where the defense isn't.
We don't have core plays because our guys suck at them, and our guys suck at them because we don't have core plays. What does Iowa run? Same ****, year after year after year. Ace set, tons of zone and counter, tons of PA to the TE. It ain't sexy but it beats us every year. And you'll run it right or you won't play for them.
Same thing when I watch the Bears every week. Nagy always trying to "out-scheme" the other team instead of them actually being good at anything in particular. Trying to be this jack of all trades offense and instead we're the master of none offense.
They are playing fast, it’s just that Ohio State was playing even faster and negated Nebraska’s super speed. Winking
At this point I’ll settle for getting a play called fast enough to avoid a delay of game after the second half kickoff.
We seemed pretty up tempo in our first drive against OSU...
I hope we come out like that the whole game against NW.
I hope we come out like that the whole game against NW.
and to think I got blasted for wanting Coach Dubs back... say what you want about the man but if not for him what would we have had under Riley? that group was one of the only highlights...
The big hit safeties and Lbs are a thing of the past...partially because they are going to get kicked out of every game starting in 9th grade and partially because everybody has to be able to cover if there are 7 receivers and runners on the field at one time. Kids used to choose defense over offense because of the physicality and it is fun to hit but those days are forever gone. A speed option power offense would be very effective because there is an abundance of decent skill players relative to 30 years ago, and defenses are getting smaller and smaller. The only caveat would be rule changes that discourage "hard and physical" running...creating contact with the helmet and such. I think that is the inevitable next step in making football more safe.
+1...and hence the reason Troy Walters is no longer at Nebraska
Poor eval, poor development, poor results