The Sellout Streak

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I don't see the sell out streak as clinging to the past. I think it can help us now and in the future. It plays well in the national media and to recruits. Nothing bad about it at all.
in a way, it's a lie, but whatever floats your boat. I don't really care about it, it's just some sort of lame thing myopic husker fans cling to to feel like they are special.
 
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in a way, it's a lie, but whatever floats your boat. I don't really care about it, it's just some sort of lame thing myopic husker fans cling to to feel like they are special.
Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it isn't important. And Husker fans are anything but myopic. We love our team. Period. And we show up to games even in horrible seasons. That isn't something we "cling" to. It is something we earned. And rightfully so.
 

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I completely disagree. The fact is that the rabid fan support that NU still enjoys is our biggest asset going forward. Our glory days are long past. We have had 20 years of up and down mediocrity. Our facilities (right now) are middle of the road or lower. And even though Frost has brought in a lot of talent, we are still deficient in certain areas and will need time to build. In the interim, we need the publicity our fan support brings. Every recruit in America knows that if you come to NU, you will be playing in front of a sold out crowd every week. The sellout string has been "propped up" by donors buying tickets and I don't give a ****. Sold out means sold out.
and then what happens when that record goes down? will you say, "oh it wasn't real anyway"?

I don't think the fan support is that rabid anymore, but hey it's ok to have your sold out record so you can pat each other on the back with pride.
 
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and then what happens when that record goes down? will you say, "oh it wasn't real anyway"?

I don't think the fan support is that rabid anymore, but hey it's ok to have your sold out record so you can pat each other on the back with pride.
If and when the record goes down I will mourn its loss. Because it is real. You have a very negative view of your fellow Husker fans. It is not a view I share.
 

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It doesn't necessarily hurt anything, but here is the reasoning, and I do flip flop between these two ideas.

Idea 1, Continue to demand excellence, and the way it used to be done, (which by the way, no coach, except maybe Bo, has tried to sort of use Tom Osbornes old formula). I don't think Tim Beck or Shawn Watson truly wanted a running offense. The thinking is, look, There is a clue on how it used to be done here. It's actually maddening to see Wisconsin basically use our old formula with success year after year.

Idea 2. Completely punt. Flush all the old stuff down the drain. We already flushed the old conferences (big 8 and 12) and flushed all our history, many records fell the past 20 years under Callahan and more. No more consecutive bowl game record, and I don't know how many stats and internal records we had, but most of those things have disappeared. The sellout record isn't very real either. It's manufactured, but it is the very last little thing we can hold on to the past with as fans.

So just get rid of it, accept mediocrity, and somehow hope that removed expectations will allow the program to regrow new roots.

I'm not on Idea #2 as often as I cling to idea #1, but I was when I posted that.

I honestly believe any coach with half a brain, can go back to Tom's formula and make it work, it just seems none of them are actually willing to do that.

Maybe the new Offensive Coordinator will help Scott actually see things with a fresh set of eyes, but if it's going to be the same garbage, then I will be more than happy to get a coach in here that wants to follow the formula.

If it's better to do Idea 2, then I'll prob just find something else to do with my time quite honestly. Maybe that will work someday for another generation.

The people who cling to sell out streaks are clinging to the past.

In order to move forward, maybe we as fans should quit clinging to the past too.

If you guys can't see this or understand, I don't know how I could make it clearer. Maybe someone else can explain it better, but it should be self evident.
Idea 1: Demand excellence by not selling out the stadium.

Idea 2: Husker fans should stop paying attention to the program and accept mediocrity. We should stop showing up and watching until the team is great again?

Idea 3: Don't cling to the sellout streak because it's from the past and holds us back. (It's not from the past, we break the record every home game)

I dislike all three of your ideas!!
 
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Think of 2007 and 2017. Two horrible losing seasons with lame duck head coaches nobody in Husker land liked. And yet there were the RV's from Scottsbluff and McCook rolling into town like always. People forked over big bucks to continue supporting this team even in the worst of times. That isn't "clinging" to something or being myopic. It means Husker football still means a hell of a lot to the good people of Nebraska.
 
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And you can take me as an example as well. I haven't lived in Nebraska in 31 years and have lived 1400 miles away all that time. And yet, even in losing seasons, I still make a point (and spend the money) to fly home to Lincoln for 2 or 3 games a year. I am not myopic or clinging to the past. The fact is Husker football is something deep in my blood. I grew up in Lincoln (Belmont) the son of a fireman who took me to games when firemen were ushers. I will never give up on Husker football. Ever.
 

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If and when the record goes down I will mourn its loss. Because it is real. You have a very negative view of your fellow Husker fans. It is not a view I share.
Oh, I'm totally on board with doing things the way we used to do them. From running the damn ball, to consecutive bowl appearances, to consecutive sellouts, to consecutive top 20 finishes, and option football, and playing all our old foes with such rich history and all those things including winning games.

What has changed? None of those things are real anymore, except some sellout record that has needed corporate support to come in and buy up huge chunks of tickets to give the appearance that it still exists, so to me, that is actually a lie.

I do have a very negative view of the program. We have never had back to back losing seasons, and I guess it has been 3 in a row now. I get you all want to be positive, but there hasn't been much to be positive about. Heck just the other day you were bitching pretty loudly about the programs nose dive. We have had a couple of decent recruiting classes, that is about the extent of the positivity in the program.
 

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in a way, it's a lie, but whatever floats your boat. I don't really care about it, it's just some sort of lame thing myopic husker fans cling to to feel like they are special.

I agree it's not something for husker fans to brag about, but I think it's terrific if national media talks about it and it's used in recruiting.
 
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And you can take me as an example as well. I haven't lived in Nebraska in 31 years and have lived 1400 miles away all that time. And yet, even in losing seasons, I still make a point (and spend the money) to fly home to Lincoln for 2 or 3 games a year. I am not myopic or clinging to the past. The fact is Husker football is something deep in my blood. I grew up in Lincoln (Belmont) the son of a fireman who took me to games when firemen were ushers. I will never give up on Husker football. Ever.
Same here. Live out of state. Kids. Work. Etc. Still make it to at least one game a year. It's called dedication. No one goes to the games to keep the streak alive. It's a byproduct of the passion that still exists. I think it's weird for anyone to not like the streak.
 

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And you can take me as an example as well. I haven't lived in Nebraska in 31 years and have lived 1400 miles away all that time. And yet, even in losing seasons, I still make a point (and spend the money) to fly home to Lincoln for 2 or 3 games a year. I am not myopic or clinging to the past. The fact is Husker football is something deep in my blood. I grew up in Lincoln (Belmont) the son of a fireman who took me to games when firemen were ushers. I will never give up on Husker football. Ever.
this is where I am different than you. at some point, I will give up on Husker football.

You can call me a bad fan or whatever you want. I don't care.

I am sick of the product, and sick of the lies, and the bs told by coach after coach and this last guy has been one of the worst so far.

Husker football is like a cult, except the cult doesn't win anymore, and there is no joy in it. You just get the cult and pain now.

Why would anyone put up with that long term?

I guess there is always Stockholm Syndrome to explain it.
 
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Oh, I'm totally on board with doing things the way we used to do them. From running the damn ball, to consecutive bowl appearances, to consecutive sellouts, to consecutive top 20 finishes, and option football, and playing all our old foes with such rich history and all those things including winning games.

What has changed? None of those things are real anymore, except some sellout record that has needed corporate support to come in and buy up huge chunks of tickets to give the appearance that it still exists, so to me, that is actually a lie.

I do have a very negative view of the program. We have never had back to back losing seasons, and I guess it has been 3 in a row now. I get you all want to be positive, but there hasn't been much to be positive about. Heck just the other day you were bitching pretty loudly about the programs nose dive. We have had a couple of decent recruiting classes, that is about the extent of the positivity in the program.

About 4 responses ago you said you didn't care.....how many times do you post about something if you do care?
 

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in a way, it's a lie, but whatever floats your boat. I don't really care about it, it's just some sort of lame thing myopic husker fans cling to to feel like they are special.

what do you mean “In a way, it’s a lie”? How hard is it to understand the difference between maxed capacity and tickets sold? It makes no dam difference who buys the tickets, if the university sales every ticket, it’s sold out. I agree with some of these posters, you have gone very very negative and it’s getting pathetic my man. I don’t remember ever seeing you this bad. My suggestion, log off, stay off and don’t come back till this negative crap with you goes away. I mean, you have gotten VERY BAD. You hate on everything regardless if your wrong or right.
 
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Idea 1: Demand excellence by not selling out the stadium.

Idea 2: Husker fans should stop paying attention to the program and accept mediocrity. We should stop showing up and watching until the team is great again?

Idea 3: Don't cling to the sellout streak because it's from the past and holds us back. (It's not from the past, we break the record every home game)

I dislike all three of your ideas!!


Agreed and it’s completely stupid ideas.
 

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what do you mean “In a way, it’s a lie”? How hard is it to understand the difference between maxed capacity and tickets sold? It makes no dam difference who buys the tickets, if the university sales every tickets, it’s sold out. I agree with some of these posters, you have gone very very negative and it’s getting pathetic my man. I don’t remember ever seeing you this bad. My suggestion, log off, stay off and don’t come back till this negative crap with you goes away. I mean, you have gotten VERY BAD. You hate on everything regardless if your wrong or right.
what is so hard to understand?

technically, the sellout streak is still legit, ticket sold is ticket sold. ok

It's also supposed to represent FAN support, not Corporate support. So in that way, it is a lie.
 

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this is where I am different than you. at some point, I will give up on Husker football.

You can call me a bad fan or whatever you want. I don't care.

I am sick of the product, and sick of the lies, and the bs told by coach after coach and this last guy has been one of the worst so far.

Husker football is like a cult, except the cult doesn't win anymore, and there is no joy in it. You just get the cult and pain now.

Why would anyone put up with that long term?

I guess there is always Stockholm Syndrome to explain it.
Seems to me that point has already arrived, judging by a majority of your posts. I’m not really sure why you are here... my suggestion is to take a vacation and come back when Scott (or another coach if he can’t do it) has this thing turned around. You already have one foot out the door...
 

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Seems to me that point has already arrived, judging by a majority of your posts. I’m not really sure why you are here... my suggestion is to take a vacation and come back when Scott (or another coach if he can’t do it) has this thing turned around. You already have one foot out the door...

exactly and that’s exactly why I don’t believe him. Dude has literally walked away from our Huskers and has for a bit now.
 
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what is so hard to understand?

technically, the sellout streak is still legit, ticket sold is ticket sold. ok

It's also supposed to represent FAN support, not Corporate support. So in that way, it is a lie.


...it seems like you care, and you also seem kinda miserable. Try getting out and about, obviously the quarantine has ya down :)
 
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Oh, I'm totally on board with doing things the way we used to do them. From running the damn ball, to consecutive bowl appearances, to consecutive sellouts, to consecutive top 20 finishes, and option football, and playing all our old foes with such rich history and all those things including winning games.

What has changed? None of those things are real anymore, except some sellout record that has needed corporate support to come in and buy up huge chunks of tickets to give the appearance that it still exists, so to me, that is actually a lie.

I do have a very negative view of the program. We have never had back to back losing seasons, and I guess it has been 3 in a row now. I get you all want to be positive, but there hasn't been much to be positive about. Heck just the other day you were bitching pretty loudly about the programs nose dive. We have had a couple of decent recruiting classes, that is about the extent of the positivity in the program.
Yes, I am actually pessimistic right now about many things concerning Husker football. I think there are some big issues with the program right now that need to get cleaned up. However, the biggest difference between you and me is that my "bitching" about things is the exception. I speak my mind and then move on. If I see something negative I say so. But if I see something positive I say so. I am often wrong and I am willing to admit when I am wrong and have done so over the years on this board many times. But all you ever do is *****. There is never any positive.

But the other difference between you and me is that I will always love Husker football. And I will always support this team and this program.
 

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what is so hard to understand?

technically, the sellout streak is still legit, ticket sold is ticket sold. ok

It's also supposed to represent FAN support, not Corporate support. So in that way, it is a lie.
You can't forget corporations give tickets to employees who may be fans or potential future fans. My wife won Husker tickets from her company a while back. It was a production competition and she worked like hell to win those tickets. We now live in Florida. My wife happened to win tickets to see the Buccaneers play.

Why shame corporations for buying tickets to local sporting events? Why shame Nebraska for selling to Corporations?
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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You can't forget corporations give tickets to employees who may be fans or potential future fans. My wife won Husker tickets from her company a while back. It was a production competition and she worked like hell to win those tickets. We now live in Florida. My wife happened to win tickets to see the Buccaneers play.

Why shame corporations for buying tickets to local sporting events? Why shame Nebraska for selling to Corporations?
it's not about shaming corporations..

the whole meaning behind the sold out tickets is because of the Fan support.

when the AD's office has to call up a corporate sponsor to buy unsold tickets to maintain the sellout, that has a different meaning.

technically, yes it is maintained.

but the meaning is tainted, because the whole point of a sellout is fan support. You see what I mean?
 

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it's not about shaming corporations..

the whole meaning behind the sold out tickets is because of the Fan support.

when the AD's office has to call up a corporate sponsor to buy unsold tickets to maintain the sellout, that has a different meaning.

technically, yes it is maintained.

but the meaning is tainted, because the whole point of a sellout is fan support. You see what I mean?
You spend so much time trying to convince everyone that your opinion is the right opinion... did you ever stop to consider the possibility that your opinion may not be shared by the majority?

I’m talking in general, not just about this sellout... AM, HCSF...
 

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I have been out of the state for 20 years and try to get to a game a year either road or home. I have found that as I get older I look forward to the tailgate aspect as much if not more than the game. I will only buy tickets in the 600 section in Lincoln. That lower area is just not a comfortable way to spend 3 + hours. If there are no fans this year it wouldnt be the worst thing to start putting in permanent seats but I get that starting a new athletic complex and stadium renovations during a pandemic makes zero financial sense.
 

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The tickets the corporations bought those times were tickets returned by the visiting team. All tickets designated for Husker fans have always been sold. Those tickets were sent back Tues the week of the game. A few times there were not long enough waiting lines for tickets to sell out tickets returned. You are way wrong in your grasp on how this has worked since 1962.
Those were teams that had little or no following and teams that brought little attention to Lincoln.
 

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At this moment, if the whole season is played... would you trade the sell out streak for a winning record and a bowl game?