Schools announcing plans to begin practice

leodisflowers

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I literally just got off the phone with a lady in California who was diagnosed with the Chinese aids...and she had just gotten up (I know they're 2hrs behind me, but still) and she joked about how she gets to sleep in more now. Literally joked about it.

Lol... This is awesome and gave me a pretty good chuckle.
 

dinglefritz

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And then there’s this...
https://journalstar.com/lifestyles/...cle_c406bc55-580f-57c7-b858-d03a710c99ac.html
At some point we have to get back to living. Nobody wants to live in a bubble. If people stopped and thought about all the things that could be their undoing every day, it would eat them up. I remember thinking when I found out my wife was expecting our first child about all the things that could go wrong before she was born. It didn’t take long to realize that that was not how I wanted to approach it. Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst but don’t obsess over the possibility of it happening. This virus is no different.
You won't see the lame stream media run that story. It doesn't fit their agenda.
 

dinglefritz

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Isn’t the Lincoln Journal Star mainstream media?
It's getting there with their ownership (Lee) taking over running the World Herald. In general the Journalstar's coverage historically I've found to be a little less "progressive" than what we saw from the World Herald after Warren bought them. IMO, the Journalstar subscribers would be a lot less tolerant of political bias than the World Herald subscibers. It's one of the reasons the WH failed. When I speak of "main stream media" it's normally understood that we're talking about major national news outlets.
 

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Where the hell is Nebraska Realty or whatever the hell he goes by? How has he not already turned this thread into 3 pages? Dudes gonna go nuclear when he catches wind of this thread.

Bottom line he isn’t one of us.

He is a $&it stirred..
 

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It's real easy to announce your intentions to do something. I announced my intention to be a doctor a bunch of times. I don't have an MD today.

Colleges are "planning to open" for the same reason my company is planning to have an annual meeting in October: You have to plan or you're f***ed if it turns out things open back up and you didn't prepare to do anything.

Follow the money, kids. You can't sell ads to sponsors if they think you won't have a season. So what do you do? You tell them, "Oh yeah, there will be a season. Send the check to the following address..."

ATM saying they intend to open in the fall means absolutely nothing in terms of the real world. If the Gov of Texas says they're closed, they're closed.
 

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It's real easy to announce your intentions to do something. I announced my intention to be a doctor a bunch of times. I don't have an MD today.

Colleges are "planning to open" for the same reason my company is planning to have an annual meeting in October: You have to plan or you're f***ed if it turns out things open back up and you didn't prepare to do anything.

ATM saying they intend to open in the fall means absolutely nothing in terms of the real world. If the Gov of Texas says they're closed, they're closed.

I think you meant PhD, but otherwise good post. :)
 

TheBeav815

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I think you meant PhD, but otherwise good post. :)
I meant MD. I was pre-med when I started at UNL.

I don't know if I ever had intentions of being a PhD. I had intentions of getting a masters and doing psychology counseling. I also didn't end up doing that.

I mostly keep my intentions focused on collecting a paycheck these days. Doing great on that.
 

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I meant MD. I was pre-med when I started at UNL.

I don't know if I ever had intentions of being a PhD. I had intentions of getting a masters and doing psychology counseling. I also didn't end up doing that.

I mostly keep my intentions focused on collecting a paycheck these days. Doing great on that.

My bad. You said "doctor." I was assuming. You know what happens when you "assume." :D
 
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It's real easy to announce your intentions to do something. I announced my intention to be a doctor a bunch of times. I don't have an MD today.

Colleges are "planning to open" for the same reason my company is planning to have an annual meeting in October: You have to plan or you're f***ed if it turns out things open back up and you didn't prepare to do anything.

Follow the money, kids. You can't sell ads to sponsors if they think you won't have a season. So what do you do? You tell them, "Oh yeah, there will be a season. Send the check to the following address..."

ATM saying they intend to open in the fall means absolutely nothing in terms of the real world. If the Gov of Texas says they're closed, they're closed.
great post. only problem is, if the product isn't delivered, the checks don't cash.

you're right when you say follow the money. in this case the money's delivered when the whistles sound, not when the figureheads announce their plans.
 

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The problem is IF they have diabetes or heart disease etc.

One concern I have is the letdown factor. After a while, without legally forcing people to do something, many of us will take this too lightly. Social distancing will not be enforced in many places if the government only "suggests" it. Without the threat of enforcement, many companies will disregard OSHA guidelines-- we all know that. Airplanes will be cleaned nicely for a while at least, but then they will go back to normal. Sorry for rambling.

Bottom line is that college football will get pretty chaotic this year. What percentage of coaches and players will truly take it seriously? What happens when a team gets a COVID 19 case? Game cancelled? The NBA cancelled the season for everybody after one player got it.

Until a treatment and vaccine is out there, nothing really has changed. Right?
 

dinglefritz

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One concern I have is the letdown factor. After a while, without legally forcing people to do something, many of us will take this too lightly. Social distancing will not be enforced in many places if the government only "suggests" it. Without the threat of enforcement, many companies will disregard OSHA guidelines-- we all know that. Airplanes will be cleaned nicely for a while at least, but then they will go back to normal. Sorry for rambling.

Bottom line is that college football will get pretty chaotic this year. What percentage of coaches and players will truly take it seriously? What happens when a team gets a COVID 19 case? Game cancelled? The NBA cancelled the season for everybody after one player got it.

Until a treatment and vaccine is out there, nothing really has changed. Right?
What has changed for me is that it has become obvious that the mortality rate was inflated versus what we are seeing. It also appears that the number of people (morbidity rate) who even become ill from this virus was VASTLY inflated. When it's all said it done it appears IMO to be less of a risk for young people than the common influenza. Again that's my opinion supported by the facts as we know them today. So think about that for a minute. We don't vacate college campuses and stop activities for an influenza outbreak but we cancel classes and tell them to stay home for this?

IMO, we need to figure out how to best mitigate risk to profs and support staff and get traditional students back in school. There is no reason one couldn't hold classes with a large video screen with the prof sitting in his office. Put up a cubicle with a separate ventilation system in the front of large lecture halls. Hell I could build one in a day that would work. We need to think outside of the box but we should be able to resume college.

For me high, middle and elementary schools are more problematic just due the lower expectations for personal responsibility of the kids and the idea that they could quickly take the virus home. You could tell college kids, you're effectively quarantined on campus. No trips home unless you and your parents treat you as if you're infected. The risk to a 20 year old is so damned low that it's ridiculous.
 

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Appears to be a Buffalo fan... Of course he denies everything but....

He could be a Husker fan who just enjoys trolling anonymously. It doesn't matter to him. He's made you upset and gets off on it. He's not bothered that you insulted his manhood. He knows that what he says and how he says it gets the reaction that he's looking for. Kind of like fly who keeps landing on your nose no matter how many times you shoo it away. So, realizing that he's just there to troll, and that the mods weren't going to ban him for doing so, I just put him in the ignore bin. I'd rather not, but who wants to continually interact with someone who's purpose is so obvious?
 

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What has changed for me is that it has become obvious that the mortality rate was inflated versus what we are seeing. It also appears that the number of people (morbidity rate) who even become ill from this virus was VASTLY inflated. When it's all said it done it appears IMO to be less of a risk for young people than the common influenza. Again that's my opinion supported by the facts as we know them today. So think about that for a minute. We don't vacate college campuses and stop activities for an influenza outbreak but we cancel classes and tell them to stay home for this?

IMO, we need to figure out how to best mitigate risk to profs and support staff and get traditional students back in school. There is no reason one couldn't hold classes with a large video screen with the prof sitting in his office. Put up a cubicle with a separate ventilation system in the front of large lecture halls. Hell I could build one in a day that would work. We need to think outside of the box but we should be able to resume college.

For me high, middle and elementary schools are more problematic just due the lower expectations for personal responsibility of the kids and the idea that they could quickly take the virus home. You could tell college kids, you're effectively quarantined on campus. No trips home unless you and your parents treat you as if you're infected. The risk to a 20 year old is so damned low that it's ridiculous.
About 55,000 Americans have died. How many people would you say is a more appropriately compelling amount of dead Americans?
 

Redscarlet

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Talking head on ESPN radio this morning was saying he doesn’t think they will have a football season IF the students don’t return to campus’s..

Said if they did try and do this it would send a bad message that college football is the minor league for the NFL..

:rolleyes: Like it isn’t already..
 

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Talking head on ESPN radio this morning was saying he doesn’t think they will have a football season IF the students don’t return to campus’s..

Said if they did try and do this it would send a bad message that college football is the minor league for the NFL..

:rolleyes: Like it isn’t already..
Cart to the side of the horse.
So, if we eliminate internet classes, they shouldn't open the schools type of logic.
Leaderless espn drivel
 

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About 55,000 Americans have died. How many people would you say is a more appropriately compelling amount of dead Americans?

You have to put it in context. When you look at deaths from week 40 of last year until now from the flu and pneumonia, they were below average more than any time in the last 7 years when this started. We are now at average.
 

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About 55,000 Americans have died. How many people would you say is a more appropriately compelling amount of dead Americans?
Considering that the original estimates were over a million.... Look I was the FIRST one on this board sounding the alarm back at the end of January. Charlie Marlowe asked the question and I gave a pretty damned bleak outlook about what this would do here. My statement about what it would do in our nursing homes has come to fruition. Well it's in a large number of them already and lockdowns did nothing to prevent it.

IMO, we've made great progress in slowing this down to where it is at least somewhat manageable by our healthcare systems. Multiple members of my family are physicians and due to age they are all at risk. I was very concerned about how many of them I would lose and about my spouse bringing it home. I'm in a high risk category due to chronic asthma, age and a controlled autoimmune disease. Now with the advent of summer and the awareness we've created, I'm feeling better about where this going. I've said for months that May 1st was a day to watch. I said then that we'll have a better handle on where we're headed and how we're going to deal with it.

We can NOT keep people locked in their homes until we have a vaccine. At some point (IMO) those less at risk need to resume their lives if for no other reason to help us develop some population immunity. We can not afford as a country to wait for the vaccine nor will the populace tolerate that approach.
 

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Funny reading all these posts now that everyone's tune has changed. Still more US deaths than the Vietnam war, and more US deaths than World War I, and it's probably going to get worse again, but I get it.. people want to move on with their lives. The down side is, when the next one comes along, ppl won't want to quarantine again, and that could work against everyone.
 
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Funny reading all these posts now that everyone's tune has changed. Still more US deaths than the Vietnam war, and more US deaths than World War I, and it's probably going to get worse again, but I get it.. people want to move on with their lives. The down side is, when the next one comes along, ppl won't want to quarantine again, and that could work against everyone.

I hope everyone has changed their tune. Seems a little silly to keep talking about the virus like it's going to kill so many people we have to bring in refridgerated trailers to stack all the bodies in....that never happened. Amongst many other over reactions that never happened.
 

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Funny reading all these posts now that everyone's tune has changed. Still more US deaths than the Vietnam war, and more US deaths than World War I, and it's probably going to get worse again, but I get it.. people want to move on with their lives. The down side is, when the next one comes along, ppl won't want to quarantine again, and that could work against everyone.
There's a huge difference between disease and war. I'm guessing the majority of people who died from this disease would have died within a few years anyway if they had caught another disease. War is sending off millions of healthy young men to get maimed and killed.

Production also doesn't stop during a war, but is likely kicked into overdrive. Throughout history, people didn't put their lives on hold for all but the most vicious diseases. It's looking more and more by the day that this virus doesn't come close to the level of the Spanish flu, but our response is as if that it was.
 

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About 55,000 Americans have died. How many people would you say is a more appropriately compelling amount of dead Americans?
That's a tiny amount compared to the original predictions and death rate. That's about the same number of Americans that die during a typical flu season. The economy isn't designed to be shut down for any length of time, let alone weeks or months. 55,000 Americans who likely would have died soon if they had caught another disease isn't worth shutting down everybody's lives.
 

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Funny reading all these posts now that everyone's tune has changed. Still more US deaths than the Vietnam war, and more US deaths than World War I, and it's probably going to get worse again, but I get it.. people want to move on with their lives. The down side is, when the next one comes along, ppl won't want to quarantine again, and that could work against everyone.
I'm not sure where you're getting your facts but over 115,000 American soldiers died in WWI
 

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Life is about managed risks. We have to prioritize those risks. Football is not that important. Will we open up our society too soon and have more deaths than are acceptable? It sounds great until we are having decals dedicating the next season to one of our own on the 2021 helmets.
I get the point you were trying to make. However football is massive economy factor not only in college town but in NFL cities. Millions and millions of dollars are not only brought into the university and NFL teams But also the millions pumped into the economy of the surrounding areas. Think of all the people hotels, restaurants, car rental, the stadiums themselves employ during football season. I know there are some bars just in Lincoln that relies on most of their yearly income from Nebraska home games. Football is a big part in the economy and keeping people employed.
This article https://www.thestar.com/sports/football/2011/09/09/how_the_nfl_affects_the_us_economy.html

"Overall, the games add about $5 billion to the broader economy in NFL cities,"

"Positively Cleveland, which promotes tourism to the city, estimated four years ago that every Browns game brought $7.9 million in business to Cleveland — $63 million a year. "

"Overall, Delaware North takes in about $100 million per year from food and drink sales at NFL events. The company also employs about 30,000 seasonal workers."
 

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I get the point you were trying to make. However football is massive economy factor not only in college town but in NFL cities. Millions and millions of dollars are not only brought into the university and NFL teams But also the millions pumped into the economy of the surrounding areas. Think of all the people hotels, restaurants, car rental, the stadiums themselves employ during football season. I know there are some bars just in Lincoln that relies on most of their yearly income from Nebraska home games. Football is a big part in the economy and keeping people employed.
This article https://www.thestar.com/sports/football/2011/09/09/how_the_nfl_affects_the_us_economy.html

"Overall, the games add about $5 billion to the broader economy in NFL cities,"

"Positively Cleveland, which promotes tourism to the city, estimated four years ago that every Browns game brought $7.9 million in business to Cleveland — $63 million a year. "

"Overall, Delaware North takes in about $100 million per year from food and drink sales at NFL events. The company also employs about 30,000 seasonal workers."
Exactly. Football is so much more than just football.
 

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One concern I have is the letdown factor. After a while, without legally forcing people to do something, many of us will take this too lightly. Social distancing will not be enforced in many places if the government only "suggests" it. Without the threat of enforcement, many companies will disregard OSHA guidelines-- we all know that. Airplanes will be cleaned nicely for a while at least, but then they will go back to normal. Sorry for rambling.

Bottom line is that college football will get pretty chaotic this year. What percentage of coaches and players will truly take it seriously? What happens when a team gets a COVID 19 case? Game cancelled? The NBA cancelled the season for everybody after one player got it.

Until a treatment and vaccine is out there, nothing really has changed. Right?
We better not be waiting for a vaccine to play football. Good grief...I am closing in on 50. I might be retired before we get one of those. Am I missing something? This illness would possibly cause more than mild symptoms, maybe, for obese players. The chance of hospitalization is probably greater for heat exposure than this. Would be absurd, IMO, to delay the season until vaccine, perfected treatment, or the virus goes away. We will be having the same conversation, a year from now. The lockdown reaction (beyond helping the vulnerable protect themselves) is getting embarrassing, on a few levels.
 

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Considering that the original estimates were over a million.... Look I was the FIRST one on this board sounding the alarm back at the end of January. Charlie Marlowe asked the question and I gave a pretty damned bleak outlook about what this would do here. My statement about what it would do in our nursing homes has come to fruition. Well it's in a large number of them already and lockdowns did nothing to prevent it.

IMO, we've made great progress in slowing this down to where it is at least somewhat manageable by our healthcare systems. Multiple members of my family are physicians and due to age they are all at risk. I was very concerned about how many of them I would lose and about my spouse bringing it home. I'm in a high risk category due to chronic asthma, age and a controlled autoimmune disease. Now with the advent of summer and the awareness we've created, I'm feeling better about where this going. I've said for months that May 1st was a day to watch. I said then that we'll have a better handle on where we're headed and how we're going to deal with it.

We can NOT keep people locked in their homes until we have a vaccine. At some point (IMO) those less at risk need to resume their lives if for no other reason to help us develop some population immunity. We can not afford as a country to wait for the vaccine nor will the populace tolerate that approach.
The word quarantine derives from latin, meaning forty days.
It is believed forty days was used for several things, the duration of which a primative medical system with no real defenses could stop diseases, the other, the duration with which people wouldnt just pull anchor and head elsewheres when their foreign ship was quarantined.
Besides which, livelihoods are at stake.
 

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There's a huge difference between disease and war. I'm guessing the majority of people who died from this disease would have died within a few years anyway if they had caught another disease. War is sending off millions of healthy young men to get maimed and killed.

Production also doesn't stop during a war, but is likely kicked into overdrive. Throughout history, people didn't put their lives on hold for all but the most vicious diseases. It's looking more and more by the day that this virus doesn't come close to the level of the Spanish flu, but our response is as if that it was.
A huge number of deaths in wwI were from disentary and the flu