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NorthwoodHusker

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My impression is that any 4 star below 6.0 is no better than a 3 star. Rivals bloats the ratings to make for good entertainment. Just think how excited people got when a recruit had a 5.8 rating vs. a 5.7 rating. That player could still have hundreds of better players front of them but we were SOOOOOO jacked because of the extra star. There are around 300 to 400 four stars...and these only filter out to about 50 power 5 schools. That means a team can have plenty of four stars...and never have a chance at even breaking into the top 25. To me that says the rankings are inflated to entice subscribers. We are still thin on the top 100 players which are so common among the best teams...and this class is particularly thin on kids who were recruited by top 10 teams or coaches. But it got us excited to follow recruiting.
There are differences. Our guys check those guys, their bone size of their frames, how much weight they put on and no change in speed or flexibility can happen etc.
Alot of those three stars arent ever checked out, grow into their best size and weight, and go from a three out of hs to a four in college.
Iowas SnC guy isn't payed the most for nothing.
 

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We will have at least 10 four-star recruits in this class. Last year, we signed 11. In 2018, it was 9.
  • 2020 — 10 four-star recruits
  • 2019 — 11
  • 2018 — 9
  • 2017 — 7, but only 1 remains (McQuitty)
  • 2016 — 4
  • 2015 — 6
  • 2014 — 4
  • 2013 — 5
  • 2012 — 6
  • 2011 — 11
Those 2011 4-stars didn't have much of an impact:
  • Peat
  • Charles Jackson
  • Aaron Green
  • Santos
  • Sterup
  • Starling
  • Stafford
  • Klachko
  • Jamal Turner
  • Tyler Moore
  • Ryne Reeves
It's time we started hanging onto and developing these highly regarded recruits into all-conference players, while also turning those three-stars into starters and contributors, and those walk-ons into special teams dervishes.
In Charles Jackson's defense, he was injured more than he wasn't when he was here. It wasn't because he didn't have the talent, and he was the hardest hitter on that entire defense and could cover extremely well and could come down hill and take your head off in Run D.
 

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QB injuries and play, O line early in the year and linebacker play the first 7-8 games were our main issues. That was enough. I'm a closet UCF fan now. I got to see your head coach play in high school for one of our rivals. Good guy. Very good coach IMO and I hope he stays at UCF for a long long time. Who wouldn't want to coach in Orlando for heaven's sake? I hope they can pay him enough AND get in a P5 conference so he'll stick around for the next 25 years.
Qb play by default looks better with OLine play, so he’s right by default if nothing else. QBs also probably stay healthier with better oline play.
 

B1G RED RULES

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Haven't seen this type of talent being brought in since Callahan got guys like Suh and Prince...etc..All it takes is hitting on a Suh to change your team. He carried us to within a second of a Big 12 title. Frost got the ball rolling last year with guys like Wandale, Ty, Benhart..etc. Add this year's class of speed speed and more speed he is really building something special in Lincoln. Speed kills!! GBR!!!
Agree 100%. The excuse that we have the least talented team in the conference is now gone. We have the best talent of the west and are in the top 25 of the entire conference. The Iowa and Wisconsin teams we face next year and beyond will be the same teams that have recruited 3 to 5 four-star players while we have been hauling in 10 of them in each of the past couple years. Now it is simply coaching and development.

Remember, Suh didn’t do anything spectacular while Callahan’s crew was coaching him. It took Pelini, who is a good coach, to bring out the best in Suh.

I’ve not been overly impressed by our coaching and development thus far, but I am cautiously optimistic for this upcoming season. Everybody thinks our last five games are brutal, but three of those should be winnable by talent and coaching. We will find out if we have both.
 

B1G RED RULES

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We will have at least 10 four-star recruits in this class. Last year, we signed 11. In 2018, it was 9.
  • 2020 — 10 four-star recruits
  • 2019 — 11
  • 2018 — 9
  • 2017 — 7, but only 1 remains (McQuitty)
  • 2016 — 4
  • 2015 — 6
  • 2014 — 4
  • 2013 — 5
  • 2012 — 6
  • 2011 — 11
Those 2011 4-stars didn't have much of an impact:
  • Peat
  • Charles Jackson
  • Aaron Green
  • Santos
  • Sterup
  • Starling
  • Stafford
  • Klachko
  • Jamal Turner
  • Tyler Moore
  • Ryne Reeves
It's time we started hanging onto and developing these highly regarded recruits into all-conference players, while also turning those three-stars into starters and contributors, and those walk-ons into special teams dervishes.
Compare those last 3 years of recruiting to Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa - and we blow them out of the water. We have the talent advantage - no argument at all. No reason we should lose to any of these teams in 2020. Time will tell.
 

B1G RED RULES

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You can NOT expect this class to change our fortunes over night. While I agree losing seasons are unacceptable, the way these guys have recruited is going to have us where we want to be. Patience.
I don’t expect this class to make the difference, but the previous two should.
 

B1G RED RULES

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Wisconsin signed a great class also, no, we don’t have 10, 4 stars but we will have. Stars and walk- ons who end up playing better than many four stars, we always do.
Congratulations. What you have is called coaching and development. We will see where we stand in that department very soon.
 

B1G RED RULES

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UCF fan here, happy to see you get some top talent at the skill positions. I hope you're able to beef up the lines this year, in my opinion that was the only thing that stopped Nebraska from maybe a 8-9 win season this year.
I’m sure War Daddy videos will be rolling out soon.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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I don’t expect this class to make the difference, but the previous two should.
Disagree.
First year, extremely shortened, didnt retain any, actually, couldnt retain any of the previous staffs recruits, got in too late, it was hurried and too fast to make the right judgements.
So, we have last years class of red shirt freshmen to save us?
 

B1G RED RULES

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Disagree.
First year, extremely shortened, didnt retain any, actually, couldnt retain any of the previous staffs recruits, got in too late, it was hurried and too fast to make the right judgements.
So, we have last years class of red shirt freshmen to save us?
Okay, four more years then...will that be enough for this “special” group?
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Okay, four more years then...will that be enough for this “special” group?
No,two hundred, that ok with you?
Don't look at the fact 27 rs freshmen is what you're proclaiming as a crap or get off the pot demanded improvement.
Kids dont even stop growing until theyre 20, just so happens, they call those guys upperclassmen.

Now, realistically,we should be better, but I'm not going do or die.
 

timnsun

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Okay, four more years then...will that be enough for this “special” group?
Absolutely love this post... “They need to show improvement today.” Someone else says, “Give it a little more time... mostly just redshirt freshmen.” Then you respond, “Four more years then?”

Why go to the extreme? Is there no middle ground?
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Absolutely love this post... “They need to show improvement today.” Someone else says, “Give it a little more time... mostly just redshirt freshmen.” Then you respond, “Four more years then?”

Why go to the extreme? Is there no middle ground?
I'd love a ucf type of turnaround, was hoping for one, but seeing the depletion to start with of talent, then the exodus of players through coaching transitions and system changes and needs, to me, it became very apparent it wasn't going to happen, that what might have been simply became a couldnt have been.

Now, I can't blame this staff for even half the things thats gone on, but they are the same staff that did produce that ucf miracle, yet, theyre the same staff that are relatively young.
Look at our more senior coaches, coach Fish,coach Verdu, their production, their recruiting. I see the positives in experience, not just the negatives of being new or young to a position.

So, as time moves forwards, I see an improving team ,improving culture, with greater talent and better coaching.
So,incremental improvements are vital, but winning them all would be great,yet not vital.
 

B1G RED RULES

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Absolutely love this post... “They need to show improvement today.” Someone else says, “Give it a little more time... mostly just redshirt freshmen.” Then you respond, “Four more years then?”

Why go to the extreme? Is there no middle ground?
Yes, I’m exaggerating, but honestly, how often do we keep moving this target? When should we expect to put a competitive team on the field? Year 3 seems reasonable, after three top 25 recruiting classes, then somebody says - “well we had a transition recruiting class, so that doesn’t count”. Every other head coach has a transition class too - but somehow it’s a different with Nebraska? Let’s look at some nearby programs, not blue blood programs.

Iowa State - 8 wins in his second year. They are nowhere in the same ZIP Code of our recruiting.

Iowa - in third year, had his team out of the gutter and playing in a bowl game.

Minnesota - 7 wins and bowling in second season. 10+ wins in his third season.

Colorado - too early to tell, just know they beat us in Tucker’s first year.

Kansas State - 8 wins his first season.

Kansas - 3 win start. Will be interesting to watch.

These are all programs that are nowhere close to being a blue blood that we all used to laugh at. Now half of them are getting a good chuckle at us. We have out recruited everyone of these programs for years, but now all of a sudden year 3 is not a good enough measuring stick?

Hence, my joke that we just need more time, which is been the recurring theme ever since Frost’s first season. I get it, but don’t tell me that Matt Campbell took over a well oiled machine after Paul Rhodes was fired. At some point you have to coach and develop what you have - which is what Campbell and the others have done in a much faster pace than Nebraska.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Yes, I’m exaggerating, but honestly, how often do we keep moving this target? When should we expect to put a competitive team on the field? Year 3 seems reasonable, after three top 25 recruiting classes, then somebody says - “well we had a transition recruiting class, so that doesn’t count”. Every other head coach has a transition class too - but somehow it’s a different with Nebraska? Let’s look at some nearby programs, not blue blood programs.

Iowa State - 8 wins in his second year. They are nowhere in the same ZIP Code of our recruiting.

Iowa - in third year, had his team out of the gutter and playing in a bowl game.

Minnesota - 7 wins and bowling in second season. 10+ wins in his third season.

Colorado - too early to tell, just know they beat us in Tucker’s first year.

Kansas State - 8 wins his first season.

Kansas - 3 win start. Will be interesting to watch.

These are all programs that are nowhere close to being a blue blood that we all used to laugh at. Now half of them are getting a good chuckle at us. We have out recruited everyone of these programs for years, but now all of a sudden year 3 is not a good enough measuring stick?

Hence, my joke that we just need more time, which is been the recurring theme ever since Frost’s first season. I get it, but don’t tell me that Matt Campbell took over a well oiled machine after Paul Rhodes was fired. At some point you have to coach and develop what you have - which is what Campbell and the others have done in a much faster pace than Nebraska.
Name one entire staff that coached in a new years game, got hired late, and had great first year recruiting class?
Umm, none made your list.
Timing and time are important.
 

timnsun

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Yes, I’m exaggerating, but honestly, how often do we keep moving this target? When should we expect to put a competitive team on the field? Year 3 seems reasonable, after three top 25 recruiting classes, then somebody says - “well we had a transition recruiting class, so that doesn’t count”. Every other head coach has a transition class too - but somehow it’s a different with Nebraska? Let’s look at some nearby programs, not blue blood programs.

Iowa State - 8 wins in his second year. They are nowhere in the same ZIP Code of our recruiting.

Iowa - in third year, had his team out of the gutter and playing in a bowl game.

Minnesota - 7 wins and bowling in second season. 10+ wins in his third season.

Colorado - too early to tell, just know they beat us in Tucker’s first year.

Kansas State - 8 wins his first season.

Kansas - 3 win start. Will be interesting to watch.

These are all programs that are nowhere close to being a blue blood that we all used to laugh at. Now half of them are getting a good chuckle at us. We have out recruited everyone of these programs for years, but now all of a sudden year 3 is not a good enough measuring stick?

Hence, my joke that we just need more time, which is been the recurring theme ever since Frost’s first season. I get it, but don’t tell me that Matt Campbell took over a well oiled machine after Paul Rhodes was fired. At some point you have to coach and develop what you have - which is what Campbell and the others have done in a much faster pace than Nebraska.
Excellent points, and the only response I can give is, unless we’re ready to run Frost off, we need more time. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t see improvement... we absolutely should. But if Frost is going to be the man that turns this around, it’s gonna take longer than any of us thought.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Yes, I’m exaggerating, but honestly, how often do we keep moving this target? When should we expect to put a competitive team on the field? Year 3 seems reasonable, after three top 25 recruiting classes, then somebody says - “well we had a transition recruiting class, so that doesn’t count”. Every other head coach has a transition class too - but somehow it’s a different with Nebraska? Let’s look at some nearby programs, not blue blood programs.

Iowa State - 8 wins in his second year. They are nowhere in the same ZIP Code of our recruiting.

Iowa - in third year, had his team out of the gutter and playing in a bowl game.

Minnesota - 7 wins and bowling in second season. 10+ wins in his third season.

Colorado - too early to tell, just know they beat us in Tucker’s first year.

Kansas State - 8 wins his first season.

Kansas - 3 win start. Will be interesting to watch.

These are all programs that are nowhere close to being a blue blood that we all used to laugh at. Now half of them are getting a good chuckle at us. We have out recruited everyone of these programs for years, but now all of a sudden year 3 is not a good enough measuring stick?

Hence, my joke that we just need more time, which is been the recurring theme ever since Frost’s first season. I get it, but don’t tell me that Matt Campbell took over a well oiled machine after Paul Rhodes was fired. At some point you have to coach and develop what you have - which is what Campbell and the others have done in a much faster pace than Nebraska.
Look, I could care less if those other teams are chuckling at us.
If you don't believe our coaches,just say so. Better get us now was made before we played anyone for an assessment.
Either this staff isn't seeing what they know works that beats teams like auburn, or they're lying.
If they arent seeing it, then things were as bad as they said, and year two may have been year one, as in get us now.
Slightly better, but an entire class,almost,red shirted,an entire class left, between the transition from older players plus the first class.
So, you just call that normal? Or, entertain this, that the coaches are and were right that the program was in worse shape than they knew, we knew, and its showing?
 

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My impression is that any 4 star below 6.0 is no better than a 3 star. Rivals bloats the ratings to make for good entertainment. Just think how excited people got when a recruit had a 5.8 rating vs. a 5.7 rating. That player could still have hundreds of better players front of them but we were SOOOOOO jacked because of the extra star. There are around 300 to 400 four stars...and these only filter out to about 50 power 5 schools. That means a team can have plenty of four stars...and never have a chance at even breaking into the top 25. To me that says the rankings are inflated to entice subscribers. We are still thin on the top 100 players which are so common among the best teams...and this class is particularly thin on kids who were recruited by top 10 teams or coaches. But it got us excited to follow recruiting.

Your close, you want to load up on Top 250 talent and as many Top 100 players as you possible can. The Top 60 players and up tend to be game changer type talents. We got 2 this year in Turner Corcoran and Zavier Betts and one last year Wandale Robinson (and who was the game changer on our team this year...Wandale Robinson).

I do agree the 5.8 4 star guys ranked out side the Top 250 is similar to a high 3 star player...usually they have few good traits that landed them into the 4 star range like a fast 40, great hands, killer stats, killed it at camp...stuff like that.
 

huskerssalts

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Just bring some of that talent to Boulder in 2023. We will be waiting for you.

You’re not going to want to play us in 2023. Frost is going to run that score up on you D Bags...then the stadium filled with HUSKERS FANS (not Colorado fans) will storm the field and rip your dam Field Goal posts down...Colorado got lucky our guys took the foot off the gas this season or it would have been a blow out.
 

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How about no more ultimatums? My expectations are that we'll be competitive and probably get bowl eligible. On the other hand, IF we were to lose Wandale, AM, Vedral and McCaffrey to injuries for varying stretches like we did this year then I'll temper my expectations. The starting QB is a HUGE deal and we don't have the developed depth that Tom did when he was able to go to Turman and just hand the ball off to squeak out a win. The culture IMO will be in place this fall to win games. It's a matter of developing this class and last year's class primarily and those impact guys will mostly just be sophomores. IMO, he gets a minimum of 4 years before anybody needs draw lines in the sand.

No more losing seasons is drawing a line in the sand? Good grief
 

huskerssalts

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Yes, I’m exaggerating, but honestly, how often do we keep moving this target? When should we expect to put a competitive team on the field? Year 3 seems reasonable, after three top 25 recruiting classes, then somebody says - “well we had a transition recruiting class, so that doesn’t count”. Every other head coach has a transition class too - but somehow it’s a different with Nebraska? Let’s look at some nearby programs, not blue blood programs.

Iowa State - 8 wins in his second year. They are nowhere in the same ZIP Code of our recruiting.

Iowa - in third year, had his team out of the gutter and playing in a bowl game.

Minnesota - 7 wins and bowling in second season. 10+ wins in his third season.

Colorado - too early to tell, just know they beat us in Tucker’s first year.

Kansas State - 8 wins his first season.

Kansas - 3 win start. Will be interesting to watch.

These are all programs that are nowhere close to being a blue blood that we all used to laugh at. Now half of them are getting a good chuckle at us. We have out recruited everyone of these programs for years, but now all of a sudden year 3 is not a good enough measuring stick?

Hence, my joke that we just need more time, which is been the recurring theme ever since Frost’s first season. I get it, but don’t tell me that Matt Campbell took over a well oiled machine after Paul Rhodes was fired. At some point you have to coach and develop what you have - which is what Campbell and the others have done in a much faster pace than Nebraska.

you're talking about few teams that play in a extremely WEAK Big 12 conference and plays fairly weak non conference games. So yeah, it’s kind of easy for most of those teams to hit 7-8 wins. Minnesota had probably college footballs easiest schedule handed to them this year and Colorado didn’t do a dam thing...only beat us after our guys took their foot off the gas in the second half.

When can we expect to see results in the field you ask? Should be soon, we should see some solid progress this season coming up and I bet by year 4 (just like Berry Alvarez and Kirk Ferentz did) we take off running....but expecting us to win right away after having 3 different Head Coaches and coaching staffs in a 4-5 year span is expecting to much. We went from a spread, read option offense to a pro style offense back to a spread, read option style offense again. That’s extreme make overs and each system takes different style players to run said systems. Frost would have had an easier time had Mike Riley ran a similar offense and so on. But making 3 different coaching staff changes in that short of span KILLS programs and puts you behind a year or two each time you fire a HC and hire a new HC.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Your close, you want to load up on Top 250 talent and as many Top 100 players as you possible can. The Top 60 players and up tend to be game changer type talents. We got 2 this year in Turner Corcoran and Zavier Betts and one last year Wandale Robinson (and who was the game changer on our team this year...Wandale Robinson).

I do agree the 5.8 4 star guys ranked out side the Top 250 is similar to a high 3 star player...usually they have few good traits that landed them into the 4 star range like a fast 40, great hands, killer stats, killed it at camp...stuff like that.
I would add Greene to the list possibly. The only reason is, he has to gain alot of weight to reach that game changer class, and the sites didn't gamble on him.
Greene will be ,likely will be, the perfect example to points towards regarding this staffs ability to develope an athlete through SnC and taking less and making more.
He sits in that in between category, where being a bonafide game changer and a potential one is a matter of SnC imo.
 

B1G RED RULES

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Name one entire staff that coached in a new years game, got hired late, and had great first year recruiting class?
Umm, none made your list.
Timing and time are important.
I agree. None of my examples had great first year recruiting classes. In fact, most have had no good recruiting classes. Yet their results remain.

Remember, my original message said Frost needs more years.
 

B1G RED RULES

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Excellent points, and the only response I can give is, unless we’re ready to run Frost off, we need more time. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t see improvement... we absolutely should. But if Frost is going to be the man that turns this around, it’s gonna take longer than any of us thought.
I agree. Frost is our man and I hope for the best. It’s going at a pace much slower than I expected, but believe he will get there.
 

B1G RED RULES

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Look, I could care less if those other teams are chuckling at us.
If you don't believe our coaches,just say so. Better get us now was made before we played anyone for an assessment.
Either this staff isn't seeing what they know works that beats teams like auburn, or they're lying.
If they arent seeing it, then things were as bad as they said, and year two may have been year one, as in get us now.
Slightly better, but an entire class,almost,red shirted,an entire class left, between the transition from older players plus the first class.
So, you just call that normal? Or, entertain this, that the coaches are and were right that the program was in worse shape than they knew, we knew, and its showing?
I do still believe in Frost, but he has underachieved mine - and many others - expectations at the close of year two. We will know soon enough if he was the only high profile coach to inherit a unique combination of bad circumstances. As I said earlier, four more years and we should know. Everyone should agree that is enough time.
 

NorthwoodHusker

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I agree. None of my examples had great first year recruiting classes. In fact, most have had no good recruiting classes. Yet their results remain.

Remember, my original message said Frost needs more years.
But, here's a positive, this staff has run off most the slackers from that first year, not sure if those other teams were as bad,or had as many leave. They all had more time after all, than our coaches had.

So, yes, we lose immediate growth with this, but, their replacements arent only of higher quality athletes, but teammates as well. 27 of 27 the very next year, all staying so far.
 

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QB injuries and play, O line early in the year and linebacker play the first 7-8 games were our main issues.

Bingo. That says it all. Maybe "especially" our early OLine.....I was shocked how far they turned around late in the year. I could hardly believe it!
That tends to happen when all five guys start every game and stay relatively healthy. More than any other position group, the "whole" OL can be greater than the sum of its parts when the guys stay healthy and play together.
 

73 Red I

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QB injuries and play, O line early in the year and linebacker play the first 7-8 games were our main issues.

Bingo. That says it all. Maybe "especially" our early OLine.....I was shocked how far they turned around late in the year. I could hardly believe it!
Frost's teams at the start of the season play like they are not prepared. They get better as the season progresses, but that's too late. They need to be ready from the get go.
 

bshirt73

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Frost's teams at the start of the season play like they are not prepared. They get better as the season progresses, but that's too late. They need to be ready from the get go.

Well, you may be quite correct sir. However, my take is that HCSF essentially had to patch up our OLine his 1st two years with what he had (with holes everywhere).

I'm betting his year three will show the best OLine we've had in a long time. No, not anything close to a 80s or 90s pipeline but still wayyyyy better than we've had for years. But who knows? We'll see......
 

73 Red I

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Well, you may be quite correct sir. However, my take is that HCSF essentially had to patch up our OLine his 1st two years with what he had (with holes everywhere).

I'm betting his year three will show the best OLine we've had in a long time. No, not anything close to a 80s or 90s pipeline but still wayyyyy better than we've had for years. But who knows? We'll see......
It's more than just the OL, but that will be a start.
 

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No more losing seasons is drawing a line in the sand? Good grief
The point is, I'm not going to want to fire Frost NEXT year if they have a losing season. There are WAY too many variables to "draw lines in the sand" for a W/L total. IF you lose your top 2 starting QBs to injury or have to play them with significant injury that's a stumbling block to winning games. We don't have the developed depth YET to overcome major injuries IMO. We're getting there with these last 2 classes but we'll see how these next 2 years go.
 

dinglefritz

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Frost's teams at the start of the season play like they are not prepared. They get better as the season progresses, but that's too late. They need to be ready from the get go.
That happens when you're playing freshmen and sophomores who've never played let alone started a game. It takes a while and Frost hasn't been here long enough to develop that line depth like we want. We DID have some backup O linemen get some snaps this season in mop up duty and that IMO will help us down the road. Benhart got some PT and he will play this next year as a redshirt Freshman. IMO, we are in so much better shape now with young guys coming up who will be in their second year in the offense and weight room. It's going to pay dividends going forward IMO. Brendan Stai is VERY high on the Corcoran kid coming in as well.
 

bshirt73

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That happens when you're playing freshmen and sophomores who've never played let alone started a game. It takes a while and Frost hasn't been here long enough to develop that line depth like we want. We DID have some backup O linemen get some snaps this season in mop up duty and that IMO will help us down the road. Benhart got some PT and he will play this next year as a redshirt Freshman. IMO, we are in so much better shape now with young guys coming up who will be in their second year in the offense and weight room. It's going to pay dividends going forward IMO. Brendan Stai is VERY high on the Corcoran kid coming in as well.

When B. Stai speaks.....I just shut up and listen.
 
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When B. Stai speaks.....I just shut up and listen.
Dominic Raiola just did an interview with Sipp. Loves Frost. Said we just need more bad asses on both lines. Said it takes more than 2 years to flip the culture. GBR https://journalstar.com/sports/husk...cle_befecffd-eeef-5316-8c25-ddce844370cb.html
"I love Scott and I love what he's doing," Raiola said. "I read about him and listen to how he speaks. There's not a better guy for the job, still. There's not a better guy who's going to hold people accountable. But some people don't want to hear the hard things you have to hear.


"People want it the easy way. There is no easy way to win in this day and age of college football." "All it's going to take is one recruiting class to win our side of the Big Ten," he said of the West Division. "Then what's going to happen is the next classes are going to say, 'I want a taste of that.'" "It's a hard balance to try to be positive and yet be real," Raiola said Saturday. "I mean, it's going to take a little bit to weed through all the crap there. It was years and years of Nebraska going away from the culture that Scott's trying to get back. Two years isn't enough."
"You just need a few more players," Raiola said. "You need a few players that are just straight ..."


He paused. But I was pretty sure I knew where he was going with his thought.

"You need guys who can play football and are just downright nasty," he said. "They'll just straight get after you. There are still those kind of guys around. Every team has them."
 
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That happens when you're playing freshmen and sophomores who've never played let alone started a game. It takes a while and Frost hasn't been here long enough to develop that line depth like we want. We DID have some backup O linemen get some snaps this season in mop up duty and that IMO will help us down the road. Benhart got some PT and he will play this next year as a redshirt Freshman. IMO, we are in so much better shape now with young guys coming up who will be in their second year in the offense and weight room. It's going to pay dividends going forward IMO. Brendan Stai is VERY high on the Corcoran kid coming in as well.
WHat do people think when SF is on record saying we look too small,or,he wants to add Husker power to his offense?
At Oregon,they always tried to get big fast backs, SF recruited one of their best rbs in Royce Freeman, not a little dcat back, though obviously he likes them too.
It's our lines, it's our body types on our lines,Husker power.

People act like what we had was ok on our lines, then act like SF doesn't get it. Not sure why they hang on a recruiting site, they see things here first, those recruits, their body types, their size.