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Salaunese2

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jason33 said:
Not questioning there are some quality defenses in the BIG, but they’re not going up against top QB and WR talent like we have in the Big 12, other than Ohio State and a couple others.
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The Big 10 doesn’t feature wide open air raid schemes but probably has the better OLs and the best RB in the country. If there’s a team in the Big 10 that resembles ISU, it’s Purdue. ISU has a better defense tho
 
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jason33 said:
Not questioning there are some quality defenses in the BIG, but they’re not going up against top QB and WR talent like we have in the Big 12, other than Ohio State and a couple others.

Would Iowa State have a challenge on its hands if we played Michigan , or Penn State or Wisconsin? Absolutely. I do believe our offense and defense would put is in a favorable winning position against those teams, although winning would be far from a certainty. I would like to see ISU’s offense vs Wisconsin’s defense now that our offense is firing on all 8 cylinders.
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On a good day, Wisconsin’s defense has been better and more aggressive than Iowa’s. I can’t see ISU winning the TOP battle either. ISU matches up better with Iowa than Wisconsin.
 
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SalAunese said:
A lot of those Big 12 teams are in the middle of nowhere or lack the ability to recruit like Texas or Oklahoma. Therefore they stockpile talent on that offensive side of the ball and employ schemes designed to mitigate their talent discrepancies against the big dogs. If you’re Baylor or Texas Tech, it’s tough to recruit NFL talent on both sides of the ball, especially with the current philosophies in place.
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I’m not a football coach, but my understanding is Big 12 teams recruit defensive players — smaller, but quicker linebackers, for example — that are best suited for stopping the aforementioned high octane Big 12 offenses. These players may, or may not, translate as well to the NFL....

FWIW..
 
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SalAunese said:
On a good day, Wisconsin’s defense has been better and more aggressive than Iowa’s. I can’t see ISU winning the TOP battle either. ISU matches up better with Iowa than Wisconsin.
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Setting aside the Illiniois game, Wisconsin’s defense is pretty incredible, for sure. They’d be a tough opponent for my Cyclones. Although the Cyclone defense might cause some serious headaches for the Badger offense, despite their sensational RB.
 
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jason33 said:
Cyclone here...

Come on, seriously.

Big 12 offenses are night and day better than Big 10 offenses not named Ohio State and maybe one or two others. Maybe it’s the boring, plodding, old school Big 10 offenses that are easy to defend and hold the scoring down. Last I checked, the average plays per game in a typical Big 12 conference game (fast tempo) is quite a bit higher than a typical Big 10 game. More chances to score more points when you run more plays.

The last 2 Heisman winners were Big 12 QB’s. Big 12 is loaded with some of the best WR’s and QB’s, with a few exceptions, of course.

Our hated in-State rival (Hawkeyes) seem to always lack big play WR’s, and we hear about it from their fans. Maybe the best WR’s want to play in a high octane offense conference where they will be targeted regularly by the best QB’s in the country...?

It’s self evident why more points are scored in a typical B12 game compared to a Big 10 game. Where am I wrong?
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Your hated in state big brother owns your *** every single year with a stout defense genius.. if u consider your offense high powered you make our point..
Now if you will excuse me i need to throw up for having to stick up for fricken iowa...just stop messing with our conference.. we can make fun of them but nobody else can..especially you lifetime losers
 
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jason33 said:
Good point, but I think that’s partly because Iowa seems to have one of the better defenses in the country, irrespective of conference.

Under Matt Campbell, we’ve shown a tendency to start SLOW the first 3 or 4 games of the season over the past 3 years, before thing start to gel. Hell, we barely beat FCS Northern Iowa the first game of this season, yet we’ve *****-slapped TCU, West Virginia and Texas Tech the past 3 games, and barely lost to unbeaten Baylor a few weeks ago. Does this mean Northern Iowa is a lot better than those aforementioned Big 12 teams? :Cool:
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UNI did win this weekend too!
 
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jason33 said:
Not questioning there are some quality defenses in the BIG, but they’re not going up against top QB and WR talent like we have in the Big 12, other than Ohio State and a couple others.

Would Iowa State have a challenge on its hands if we played Michigan , or Penn State or Wisconsin? Absolutely. I do believe our offense and defense would put is in a favorable winning position against those teams, although winning would be far from a certainty. I would like to see ISU’s offense vs Wisconsin’s defense now that our offense is firing on all 8 cylinders.

Look no further than the QB situations at Big 10 blue bloods Michigan and Wisconsin. Why can’t these teams get big time QB’s? It’s because the big time QB’s play in the Big 12 where the offensive style is attractive to the nation’s best high school QB’s. And partly because Harbaugh is a weirdo ;)
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You are literally the poster child of a delusional cyclown
 
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iowa state has its best coach since earl bruce in the 70s
and yes matt campbell is a far better coach than frost for sure, and as ferentz loses his luster campbell will pass him
iowa state is beating people left and right with less talent than most

iowa st would take nebraska to the wood shed

iowa st also has not lost a game in october since 2016

iowa is excellent but only beat isu by a point and has regressed as isu has progressed as the season goes along

i expect iowa to continue winning the matchup till isu gets better talent
because isu does not peak till later in the year under campbell so it needs talent to overcome teams in september

facts are facts, if campbell leaves isu goes back to doormat
if campbell stays and is able to retain his coordinators, isu is the pride of the north in the big 12, and will start winning recruiting battles it normally would not
 
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dbodeenisudm said:
iowa state has its best coach since earl bruce in the 70s
and yes matt campbell is a far better coach than frost for sure, and as ferentz loses his luster campbell will pass him
iowa state is beating people left and right with less talent than most

iowa st would take nebraska to the wood shed

iowa st also has not lost a game in october since 2016

iowa is excellent but only beat isu by a point and has regressed as isu has progressed as the season goes along

i expect iowa to continue winning the matchup till isu gets better talent
because isu does not peak till later in the year under campbell so it needs talent to overcome teams in september

facts are facts, if campbell leaves isu goes back to doormat
if campbell stays and is able to retain his coordinators, isu is the pride of the north in the big 12, and will start winning recruiting battles it normally would not
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Heres a fact... isu hasnt won anything worth hot garbage EVER.. that wont change whether he stays or goes.. Frost has won national coach of the year at friggen ucf... has yours?.. so im gonna go with Frost > campbell and when hes does it at NU it will be even sweeter.. good luck rooting for the cyclones all your life
 
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jason33 said:
Good point, but I think that’s partly because Iowa seems to have one of the better defenses in the country, irrespective of conference.

Under Matt Campbell, we’ve shown a tendency to start SLOW the first 3 or 4 games of the season over the past 3 years, before thing start to gel. Hell, we barely beat FCS Northern Iowa the first game of this season, yet we’ve *****-slapped TCU, West Virginia and Texas Tech the past 3 games, and barely lost to unbeaten Baylor a few weeks ago. Does this mean Northern Iowa is a lot better than those aforementioned Big 12 teams? :Cool:
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Iowa is usually in the top 5 in the Big Ten on defense, but also bottom third on offense, very unbalanced.
As you said, they can't get wrs, never much depth at rb either.
Best defense in the Big Twelve would be 6th best in the Big Ten, or seventh, as PSU can be very good to just good.
Osu,msu,wiscy,mich,iowa and psu can usually field a better defense than the top Big Twelve D.
 
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dbodeenisudm said:
iowa state has its best coach since earl bruce in the 70s
and yes matt campbell is a far better coach than frost for sure, and as ferentz loses his luster campbell will pass him
iowa state is beating people left and right with less talent than most

iowa st would take nebraska to the wood shed

iowa st also has not lost a game in october since 2016

iowa is excellent but only beat isu by a point and has regressed as isu has progressed as the season goes along

i expect iowa to continue winning the matchup till isu gets better talent
because isu does not peak till later in the year under campbell so it needs talent to overcome teams in september

facts are facts, if campbell leaves isu goes back to doormat
if campbell stays and is able to retain his coordinators, isu is the pride of the north in the big 12, and will start winning recruiting battles it normally would not
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First off frost has been a proven winner and so has Campbell.. right now lean is to frost but it could be a push.. you lost to Iowa accept it.. Iowa hasn’t lost its luster it played tight ball games against Michigan and Penn state, if they had an offense could have maybe won those games.. and I too expect Iowa to keep beating Iowa state not because of “talent” but because Iowa state is a bunch of excuse making cry babies, and it starts are your sniffling ad
 
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Frost had one good year at UCF and every other season as a coach has been garbage. Outside of Nebraska no P5 team would hire Frost over Campbell right now, and that goes for the NFL as well. Right now with Frost recruiting classes and his coaching staff, Nebraska will stay and the middle to bottom of the pack. They have talent but are the worst fundamentally coached team in the Big 10.
 
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Floyd7702 said:
Frost had one good year at UCF and every other season as a coach has been garbage. Outside of Nebraska no P5 team would hire Frost over Campbell right now, and that goes for the NFL as well. Right now with Frost recruiting classes and his coaching staff, Nebraska will stay and the middle to bottom of the pack. They have talent but are the worst fundamentally coached team in the Big 10.
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Link? Fact? History to work with? Other coaches comments on him? Do you have anything but just your tiny,insufficient opinion? The few examples above are some facts you could look up, plus he's in the ncaa record books, but I bet you can't figure out how.
 
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Roy-munson said:
First off frost has been a proven winner and so has Campbell.. right now lean is to frost but it could be a push.. you lost to Iowa accept it.. Iowa hasn’t lost its luster it played tight ball games against Michigan and Penn state, if they had an offense could have maybe won those games.. and I too expect Iowa to keep beating Iowa state not because of “talent” but because Iowa state is a bunch of excuse making cry babies, and it starts are your sniffling ad
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Fact. Campbell has not lost an October game since he has been ISU. May start slow, but he and his staff are able to bring team along and improve as season progresses.
 
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