Breece Hall RB

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Was recruited by Nebraska last year, but committed to Iowa State. He just completed his second 100+ rushing game in a row today. He also has 73 yards receiving. Looks like a Husker miss in last year's class.
 

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Was recruited by Nebraska last year, but committed to Iowa State just completed his second 100+ rushing game in a row today. He also has 73 yards receiving. Looks like a Husker miss in last year's class.


To be fair, Iowa State has a better offensive line.
 

uberism1111

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Was recruited by Nebraska last year, but committed to Iowa State. He just completed his second 100+ rushing game in a row today. He also has 73 yards receiving. Looks like a Husker miss in last year's class.

Nebraska was never one of his top choices. The staff tried but he didn't have the same level of interest.
 

o_Hit

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Was recruited by Nebraska last year, but committed to Iowa State. He just completed his second 100+ rushing game in a row today. He also has 73 yards receiving. Looks like a Husker miss in last year's class.

I'm surprised he made it into Iowa State. Word was he was JUCO bound.
 

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You apparently know nothing about Breece Hall. He had excellent high school grades. Graduated from high school at the end of Fall semester and enrolled at Iowa State early. A whole bunch of schools made a run at Breece; but, he stayed committed to Iowa State. Never wavered. Nebraska was not a factor in his recruitment. (Oh, btw. Breece Hall is Roger Craig's cousin.)
 

o_Hit

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You apparently know nothing about Breece Hall. He had excellent high school grades. Graduated from high school at the end of Fall semester and enrolled at Iowa State early. A whole bunch of schools made a run at Breece; but, he stayed committed to Iowa State. Never wavered. Nebraska was not a factor in his recruitment. (Oh, btw. Breece Hall is Roger Craig's cousin.)

Fake news
 

jason33

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they don’t play defense in the a big 12
Cyclone here...

Come on, seriously.

Big 12 offenses are night and day better than Big 10 offenses not named Ohio State and maybe one or two others. Maybe it’s the boring, plodding, old school Big 10 offenses that are easy to defend and hold the scoring down. Last I checked, the average plays per game in a typical Big 12 conference game (fast tempo) is quite a bit higher than a typical Big 10 game. More chances to score more points when you run more plays.

The last 2 Heisman winners were Big 12 QB’s. Big 12 is loaded with some of the best WR’s and QB’s, with a few exceptions, of course.

Our hated in-State rival (Hawkeyes) seem to always lack big play WR’s, and we hear about it from their fans. Maybe the best WR’s want to play in a high octane offense conference where they will be targeted regularly by the best QB’s in the country...?

It’s self evident why more points are scored in a typical B12 game compared to a Big 10 game. Where am I wrong?
 
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Mack In Motion

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Cyclone here...

Come on, seriously.

Big 12 offenses are night and day better than Big 10 offenses not named Ohio State and maybe one or two others. Maybe it’s the boring, plodding, old school Big 10 offenses that are easy to defend and hold the scoring down. Last I checked, the average plays per game in a typical Big 12 conference game (fast tempo) is quite a bit higher than a typical Big 10 game. More chances to score more points when you run more plays.

The last 2 Heisman winners were Big 12 QB’s. Big 12 is loaded with some of the best WR’s and QB’s, with a few exceptions, of course.

Our hated in-State rival (Hawkeyes) seem to always lack big play WR’s, and we hear about it from their fans. Maybe the best WR’s want to play in a high octane offense conference where they will be targeted regularly by the best QB’s in the country...?

It’s self evident why more points are scored in a typical B12 game compared to a Big 10 game. Where am I wrong?

None of that changes the fact that Big 10 defenses are night and day better than Big 12 defenses not named TCU.
 

jason33

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Is it a coincidence that iowa st never does **** on offense vs iowa?
Good point, but I think that’s partly because Iowa seems to have one of the better defenses in the country, irrespective of conference.

Under Matt Campbell, we’ve shown a tendency to start SLOW the first 3 or 4 games of the season over the past 3 years, before thing start to gel. Hell, we barely beat FCS Northern Iowa the first game of this season, yet we’ve *****-slapped TCU, West Virginia and Texas Tech the past 3 games, and barely lost to unbeaten Baylor a few weeks ago. Does this mean Northern Iowa is a lot better than those aforementioned Big 12 teams? :Cool:
 

phoenix4nu

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Good point, but I think that’s partly because Iowa seems to have one of the better defenses in the country, irrespective of conference.

Under Matt Campbell, we’ve shown a tendency to start SLOW the first 3 or 4 games of the season over the past 3 years, before thing start to gel. Hell, we barely beat FCS Northern Iowa the first game of this season, yet we’ve *****-slapped TCU, West Virginia and Texas Tech the past 3 games, and barely lost to unbeaten Baylor a few weeks ago. Does this mean Northern Iowa is a lot better than those aforementioned Big 12 teams? :Cool:
Is there a favorite to take over when Campbell leaves?
 

phoenix4nu

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I’d imagine Frost will be available, but I wouldn’t expect any interest from the Iowa State AD.
Frost won't be available. But even if he was, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't go to that sh#t hole no matter what they offered him.
 

huskerssalts

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Cyclone here...

Come on, seriously.

Big 12 offenses are night and day better than Big 10 offenses not named Ohio State and maybe one or two others. Maybe it’s the boring, plodding, old school Big 10 offenses that are easy to defend and hold the scoring down. Last I checked, the average plays per game in a typical Big 12 conference game (fast tempo) is quite a bit higher than a typical Big 10 game. More chances to score more points when you run more plays.

The last 2 Heisman winners were Big 12 QB’s. Big 12 is loaded with some of the best WR’s and QB’s, with a few exceptions, of course.

Our hated in-State rival (Hawkeyes) seem to always lack big play WR’s, and we hear about it from their fans. Maybe the best WR’s want to play in a high octane offense conference where they will be targeted regularly by the best QB’s in the country...?

It’s self evident why more points are scored in a typical B12 game compared to a Big 10 game. Where am I wrong?

And that’s the point. Big 12s defenses SUCK. It makes those offenses look that much better. I’m whiling to bet you could throw Wisconsin, PSU or even Michigan into the Big 12 and they have a chance to win the conference title. OU would be their biggest hurdle.

OU and OSU are a close PUSH...but I give OSU the nod for the better team (OSUs offense is every bit as good as OUs and the biggest difference is OSU has a legit defense while OU doesn’t). Outside that, Big 12 has no one else to match up with Wisconsin, PSU, Michigan and even Iowa this year (maybe even Minnesota). Texas the lone team that may stand a chance to compete against those teams mentioned.
 

jason33

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Frost won't be available. But if he was, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't go to that sh#t hole no matter what they offered him.
LOL.

The Big 10 plays some good defense for sure, I just think “Big 12 doesn’t play defense” mantra is overblown and tired.
 

huskerssalts

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LOL.

The Big 10 plays some good defense for sure, I just think “Big 12 doesn’t play defense” mantra is overblown and tired.

And what does this have to do with Frost and ISU??? You’re jumping around now.

And what do you expect when your best team OU has almost a defense that ranked dam near 112 or worst in the country. Big 12 equals no defense.
 

jason33

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And that’s the point. Big 12s defenses SUCK. It makes those offenses look that much better. I’m whiling to bet you could throw Wisconsin, PSU or even Michigan into the Big 12 and they have a chance to win the conference title. OU would be their biggest hurdle.

OU and OSU are a close PUSH...but I give OSU the nod for the better team (OSUs offense is every bit as good as OUs and the biggest difference is OSU has a legit defense while OU doesn’t). Outside that, Big 12 has no one else to match up with Wisconsin, PSU, Michigan and even Iowa this year (maybe even Minnesota). Texas the lone team that may stand a chance to compete against those teams mentioned.
Look at Iowa in 2015, IIRC. They were something like 11-2 with a close loss to Michigan State in the BIG championship. And then the Rose Bowl happened and Iowa played a team with a great offense (Stanford). Where was that stingy Big 10 defense when Stanford beat them 45-16?
 

huskerssalts

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Look at Iowa in 2015, IIRC. They were something like 11-2 with a close loss to Michigan State in the BIG championship. And then the Rose Bowl happened and Iowa played a team with a great offense (Stanford). Where was that stingy Big 10 defense when Stanford beat them 45-16?

your only focusing on one team. Helps a lot when you cherry pick a year and one team to fit your agenda. If I remember right, OSU was held out of the conference title game...free pass MSU. And that game was against a PAC team that had a great defense, elite Oline and stud RB. Iowa was screwed from the get go. I guarantee Stanford that year STOMPS any Big 12 team you put on the field with them.
 

Floyd7702

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You could flip it and say the Big 10 offense sucks outside of Ohio State. Two different styles of football.
 

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your only focusing on one team. Helps a lot when you cherry pick a year and one team to fit your agenda. If I remember right, OSU was held out of the conference title game...free pass MSU. And that game was against a PAC team that had a great defense, elite Oline and stud RB. Iowa was screwed from the get go. I guarantee Stanford that year STOMPS any Big 12 team you put on the field with them.

Stanford had multiple 4 year starters on that team with an electrifying RB and a defense loaded with multiply draft picks. Stanford’s 2015 team was very much a pro style Big 10 offense with an excellent defense. Big huge line and great downhill running game.
 

Salaunese2

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Good point, but I think that’s partly because Iowa seems to have one of the better defenses in the country, irrespective of conference.

Under Matt Campbell, we’ve shown a tendency to start SLOW the first 3 or 4 games of the season over the past 3 years, before thing start to gel. Hell, we barely beat FCS Northern Iowa the first game of this season, yet we’ve *****-slapped TCU, West Virginia and Texas Tech the past 3 games, and barely lost to unbeaten Baylor a few weeks ago. Does this mean Northern Iowa is a lot better than those aforementioned Big 12 teams? :Cool:

Iowa’s defense isn’t the only solid defense in the league. You have Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State and even MSU, which are likely better than almost all Big 12 defenses.
 

jason33

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More or less "overblown and tired" than BIG offenses are slow and plodding?
Good one. Not all Big 10 teams are slow and plodding, and several BIG teams have switched to a spread high octane attack for the same reasons the Big 12 teams did it long ago.

Hell, the NFL is looking more to the Big 12 for offense inspiration. Look at Mahomes, former Texas Tech QB.
 

jason33

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Iowa State’s offensive line is terrible
That has absolutely been a problem for us, although the Cyclone Oline has really started to play well in the last 3 or 4 games. According to some on here, it’s probably because our opponents’ D-lines suck.
 

Salaunese2

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And what does this have to do with Frost and ISU??? You’re jumping around now.

And what do you expect when your best team OU has almost a defense that ranked dam near 112 or worst in the country. Big 12 equals no defense.

A lot of those Big 12 teams are in the middle of nowhere or lack the ability to recruit like Texas or Oklahoma. Therefore they stockpile talent on that offensive side of the ball and employ schemes designed to mitigate their talent discrepancies against the big dogs. If you’re Baylor or Texas Tech, it’s tough to recruit NFL talent on both sides of the ball, especially with the current philosophies in place.
 

jason33

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Iowa’s defense isn’t the only solid defense in the league. You have Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State and even MSU, which are likely better than almost all Big 12 defenses.
Not questioning there are some quality defenses in the BIG, but they’re not going up against top QB and WR talent like we have in the Big 12, other than Ohio State and a couple others.

Would Iowa State have a challenge on its hands if we played Michigan , or Penn State or Wisconsin? Absolutely. I do believe our offense and defense would put is in a favorable winning position against those teams, although winning would be far from a certainty. I would like to see ISU’s offense vs Wisconsin’s defense now that our offense is firing on all 8 cylinders.

Look no further than the QB situations at Big 10 blue bloods Michigan and Wisconsin. Why can’t these teams get big time QB’s? It’s because the big time QB’s play in the Big 12 where the offensive style is attractive to the nation’s best high school QB’s. And partly because Harbaugh is a weirdo ;)
 
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Salaunese2

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That has absolutely been a problem for us, although the Cyclone Oline has really started to play well in the last 3 or 4 games. According to some on here, it’s probably because our opponents’ D-lines suck.

Just have to keep recruiting. I think Campbell has improved ISU’s physicality. I’m sure KSU’s new coach is doing the same thing