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Solana Beach Husker

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Just a few points to make.

Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin went 1-10 year 1, then went 5-6 in year 2 and then went 5-6 in year 3 and then finally in year 4 he went 10-1. It took him 4 years to rebuild the Badgers.

Kirk Ferentz at Iowa went 1-10 in year 1, then went 3-8 in year 2 and then went 7-5 in year 3 and then finally in year 4 he went 11-2.

My point is this, most decent to good coach when doing a complete rebuild takes 3-4 years before they start winning again. These two Head Coaches both had to do a complete rebuild just like Scott Frost is now. Us expecting results in year 2 is a bit of a stretch at best. We have to be patient just like Wisconsin was with Barry and Iowa was with Kirk.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/barry-alvarez-1.html

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/kirk-ferentz-1.html
Add Mike leach, Mark Mangino , Gary Pinkel, Bill Snyder, Bill McCartney... pretty much every program rebuild has taken at least 4 years because it takes 4 years to get your players to maximize. Some at blue bloods have had great first years and were gone by year 4 because they set expectations really high with a great 1st season with somebody else's seniors. Taking over for a coach that only lasted three years is really awkward because that coach never had a full cycle of recruiting, their first year was broken recruiting, and their last year was broken recruiting which means you have two broken recruiting classes in 4 years and their youngest class is liable to jump ship which effectively means we had broken recruiting classes in 2015, 2017, 2018..which speaks to our problems now.
 

oldjar07

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If a player is reading this board, I'd advise against reading anything on here or any other message board/social media for that matter. While you may find nuggets of truth here and there, there is so much garbage to wade through, it isn't worth it in the end. I'd rather hear about a fist fight in the locker room or during practice, then we would know you're making some progress.
Btw Khalil tried to punch somebody again after he gave up a key 3rd down play. I don't think getting in a fist fight is going to help anything.
 

SnohomishRed

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If say so. It doesn’t matter time frame. Doesn’t matter at ALL. It’s two Head Coaches we all know that both pulled off rebuilds. Don’t flip it because it doesn’t fit your agenda. 1998 or 2001 or 2017...doesn’t make a difference at all. Rebuilds take time.
didnt take Devaney very long
 

SnohomishRed

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Add Mike leach, Mark Mangino , Gary Pinkel, Bill Snyder, Bill McCartney... pretty much every program rebuild has taken at least 4 years because it takes 4 years to get your players to maximize. Some at blue bloods have had great first years and were gone by year 4 because they set expectations really high with a great 1st season with somebody else's seniors. Taking over for a coach that only lasted three years is really awkward because that coach never had a full cycle of recruiting, their first year was broken recruiting, and their last year was broken recruiting which means you have two broken recruiting classes in 4 years and their youngest class is liable to jump ship which effectively means we had broken recruiting classes in 2015, 2017, 2018..which speaks to our problems now.
Good god maybe you are right we now currently rank among the worst programs in the history of College football as a starting point. Kansas was starting below zero, KSU was the same and CU was not far behind that. Not sure about MU but they improved when NU took a dive.

These coaches will get all the time in the world to get a truly fair shot. What we do not need right now is to justify the play we see on the field. That line of thinking is what got us into this mess in the first place
 

Hoosker Du

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Well, hopefully Chinander reads this board too. If so...

Chins, your defense gave up 7.3 yards/play last night...to a respectable, but not great Minnesota team. Your defense represents one of the worst performances of any of the teams that Minnesota has played, which includes an FCS team and a number of non-Power 5 schools. They literally ran the ball at will all night.

How about you do the team, your head coach, and the fans a favor and GTFO!!
 

Husker02GT

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Just a few points to make.

Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin went 1-10 year 1, then went 5-6 in year 2 and then went 5-6 in year 3 and then finally in year 4 he went 10-1. It took him 4 years to rebuild the Badgers.

Kirk Ferentz at Iowa went 1-10 in year 1, then went 3-8 in year 2 and then went 7-5 in year 3 and then finally in year 4 he went 11-2.

My point is this, most decent to good coach when doing a complete rebuild takes 3-4 years before they start winning again. These two Head Coaches both had to do a complete rebuild just like Scott Frost is now. Us expecting results in year 2 is a bit of a stretch at best. We have to be patient just like Wisconsin was with Barry and Iowa was with Kirk.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/barry-alvarez-1.html

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/kirk-ferentz-1.html

neither Barry Alvarez or Kirk Ferentz has won crap. What’s the point?
 

o_Hit

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Another message to the players... show some heart and play hard.
 

VedralTime

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Well, hopefully Chinander reads this board too. If so...

Chins, your defense gave up 7.3 yards/play last night...to a respectable, but not great Minnesota team. Your defense represents one of the worst performances of any of the teams that Minnesota has played, which includes an FCS team and a number of non-Power 5 schools. They literally ran the ball at will all night.

How about you do the team, your head coach, and the fans a favor and GTFO!!
Meanwhile the Nebraska offense scored one junk time touchdown, is ranked 76th nationally in total offense and 97th in turnover margin. Do you want to call out any offensive coaches Hoosker Doh
 

artguy68

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If say so. It doesn’t matter time frame. Doesn’t matter at ALL. It’s two Head Coaches we all know that both pulled off rebuilds. Don’t flip it because it doesn’t fit your agenda. 1998 or 2001 or 2017...doesn’t make a difference at all. Rebuilds take time.
You are the one using outdated examples to fit your agenda. I'm just pointing it out. There have been dozens and dozens of new coaching hires since, and dozens and dozens of rebuilds. Finding two that fit your agenda from the 1990's means absolutely nothing. Sorry.
 

Solana Beach Husker

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Good god maybe you are right we now currently rank among the worst programs in the history of College football as a starting point. Kansas was starting below zero, KSU was the same and CU was not far behind that. Not sure about MU but they improved when NU took a dive.

These coaches will get all the time in the world to get a truly fair shot. What we do not need right now is to justify the play we see on the field. That line of thinking is what got us into this mess in the first place
We were 6-18 from 2016 to 2018.... that is about as bad as it gets considering our 6 wins came against Maryland, Rutgers, Arkansas State, Minnesota....it is nearly impossible to be that bad when you pay teams to play you and play in the weakest division in college football..and your 80k fans come to each game and travel to each game.
 

TheBeav815

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Dear players who read this board,

May I suggest video games? They're a way more fun way to waste your time than this board is. I'm only on here because I can't play video games at work.

Aside from that, Bo Pelini isn't the coach any more. So the ******** of lashing out against the fans or World Herald writers when your season gets tough is over. We don't play for Minnesota. We didn't trip you, slow you down, throw a flag on you, steal your shoes or slap the weights out of your hand to prevent you from playing well. Take that up with the dudes on the team and the dude in the mirror.

The fans want to see you succeed, and that same idiot who wants to name call and say you should get benched is also the guy screaming his stupid round head off on third down when you want some noise for a stop. He wants you to win, too, he just doesn't know **** about anything so he's throwing out dumb ideas.

Don't take it personally. If you take stupidity personally, it's going to be a ROUGH life. Here's what I learned after college: Adults are mostly morons. Like really, really stupid. And annoying. And weird. And if you worry about what all these weird, annoying morons think of you then you're gonna have a bad time.

We are all the same bunch of stupid yokels who booed Scott Frost in 1996, loved him in 1997, and demanded he be hired in 2017. I booed him in 1996, I was there, go on tell him. I was 14 years old and didn't know **** about anything. We were dumb before you were born and we'll be dumb after you gradate. You try to swim against the tide of stupid and all you'll get is drowned.

Stop paying attention to fans and go listen to your coach. He makes millions to coach football. We don't. Stick with his opinion.

Love,
Beav
 
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dand84

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You guys are missing the point. They read the boards because they have a drinking game where every time someone here says "unacceptable" they have to take a drink.
 

HuskerBruce81

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You guys are missing the point. They read the boards because they have a drinking game where every time someone here says "unacceptable" they have to take a drink.


That would explain their play. They're drunk 24/7.

Unacceptable!
 

RednWash

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I have a nephew on the team and yes they do read this board. Maybe the players will do a big fck you and mail the rest of the season in!!!
Don't usually reply to posts like this but if posts on a message board, which they shouldn't be paying attention to anyway, are going to hurt their feelings and they might take their ball and go home cuz they got called names, they don't have the fortitude to be playing big boy football and should go home.
 

huskerssalts

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neither Barry Alvarez or Kirk Ferentz has won crap. What’s the point?

I get your point on Kirk with Iowa but Barry Alvarez built and made Wisconsin what they are now. They where a complete mess before him. Sure, they haven’t won a national title but please tell me you wouldn’t be ok with being in the Badgers shoes now? Being at their level they are at right now. And what’s the point? Do we really have that stupid of fans on here that I’d have to explain that? Or maybe it’s the bull headed move of I’m not giving an inch regardless the point because your unhappy? At some point us Husker fans have to be ok with building ourselves up first. We will not become national title contenders in a snap of a finger. All I was trying to point out is it takes time to rebuild a team that’s in a mess like we are. That’s all.
 
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huskerssalts

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You are the one using outdated examples to fit your agenda. I'm just pointing it out. There have been dozens and dozens of new coaching hires since, and dozens and dozens of rebuilds. Finding two that fit your agenda from the 1990's means absolutely nothing. Sorry.

right, outdated examples. Flip it as you see fit. I don’t really give a fly f_ck. I used two teams that had to go through rebuilds and used them as an example. Outdated? Like it makes a difference if it’s 1990 or 2010. Rebuilds still take time regardless the year. You have to be a complete moron to think differently, truly. Dabo Swinney even took a few years to turn Clemson into a power. He didn’t do it a couple years either. There’s a recent on for you and even then Dabo don’t the issues Frost faces.

And since you seen dozen on dozen of COMPLETE REBUILDS....then name them off. I want you to show me how many coaches you seen do a complete rebuild and do it FAST. It’s one thing to hire a coach that’s been on staff or a complete new coach that comes in and takes over a team that has roster full of top 100 players. A team full of 5 star and high 4 star players. Sure, then it’s easier and you can fix them fast. But It’s a complete different story for a head coach to take over the mess like Scott Frost did.

Show me another Head Coach that took over the same type of mess Frost did (a complete dumpster fire with monster roster issues and big time recruiting misses) and fixed it fast....I’m whiling to bet you will not find another Head Coach out there that had his team fixed in 2 years with the same issues and dumpster fire like Scott Frost is facing with our Huskers now.
 
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bshirt73

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You have somewhat of a point. I supported Riley to almost the bitter end but the proof of his recruiting is in the pudding. Look at how few of his guys who are quality contributors. The difference is that Riley's guys are now at least 3 years in and should have it figured out by now. Most of them don't. I normally try to refrain from calling out players by name but at some point they have to do their job. It isn't Hixson's fault that he's called on before he's ready for the B1G. It isn't Farniok's fault that he has to play OT instead of OG. It damned sure isn't Jurgen's fault that he has to start at center. The one common denominator is that Cavanaugh and Riley's recruiting of the O line left a lot to be desired.

A truly massive under-statement sir.
 

dinglefritz

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I would like to know, what is his take as to what is wrong? Is the culture still broken? Is there a divide in the locker room? Are people not being held accountable? Are there coaches they don't respect? Are there guys that need to be on the field that are languishing on the bench?
Farniok apparently told a media type that "we need to get away from each other for a while". When you have a captain saying something like that, the chemistry must not be great right now.. A couple of blowouts like we've had can do that. People start pointing fingers at each other. Hopefully they come back from a short break ready to kick some butt.
 

huskerssalts

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Farniok apparently told a media type that "we need to get away from each other for a while". When you have a captain saying something like that, the chemistry must not be great right now.. A couple of blowouts like we've had can do that. People start pointing fingers at each other. Hopefully they come back from a short break ready to kick some butt.

man I hope so. We still have several games to go and we COULD get things going enough to at least finish 8-4 to 7-5 (Indiana, Purdue and Maryland are all winnable games). But we have to unite, start fighting our a$$es off and play as a team. Frost did flip the team mid season last year...can he do it again???
 

catch54

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You guys are missing the point. They read the boards because they have a drinking game where every time someone here says "unacceptable" they have to take a drink.

I propose a new drinking game. Whenever someone posts "boring" in response to a swing pass or screen.
 

Thorrulz81

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Hate to say this but after seeing the blank and confused look of some of the players during the games I wonder if they are intelligent enough to have learned how to read...
 

Hoosker Du

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Meanwhile the Nebraska offense scored one junk time touchdown, is ranked 76th nationally in total offense and 97th in turnover margin. Do you want to call out any offensive coaches Hoosker Doh

Start with the worst offender first. First the DC, then the OLine coach.
 

red scowl

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Because you have 800 lbs on your back and your knees perform a slight hinge movement, does not mean you squat 800lbs.

That's for the 800 lb squat cornerbacks. A little secret. There is no player on Nebraska's team that can squat 800 lbs. Hi, Nebraska players.
 

HuskerBruce81

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right, outdated examples. Flip it as you see fit. I don’t really give a fly f_ck. I used two teams that had to go through rebuilds and used them as an example. Outdated? Like it makes a difference if it’s 1990 or 2010. Rebuilds still take time regardless the year. You have to be a complete moron to think differently, truly. Dabo Swinney even took a few years to turn Clemson into a power. He didn’t do it a couple years either. There’s a recent on for you and even then Dabo don’t the issues Frost faces.

And since you seen dozen on dozen of COMPLETE REBUILDS....then name them off. I want you to show me how many coaches you seen do a complete rebuild and do it FAST. It’s one thing to hire a coach that’s been on staff or a complete new coach that comes in and takes over a team that has roster full of top 100 players. A team full of 5 star and high 4 star players. Sure, then it’s easier and you can fix them fast. But It’s a complete different story for a head coach to take over the mess like Scott Frost did.

Show me another Head Coach that took over the same type of mess Frost did (a complete dumpster fire with monster roster issues and big time recruiting misses) and fixed it fast....I’m whiling to bet you will not find another Head Coach out there that had his team fixed in 2 years with the same issues and dumpster fire like Scott Frost is facing with our Huskers now.


Dabo spent money on coordinators and assistants after a few years. Doubt Frost is going to can the best man in his wedding if and when it is apparent it will be needed.
 

artguy68

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right, outdated examples. Flip it as you see fit. I don’t really give a fly f_ck. I used two teams that had to go through rebuilds and used them as an example. Outdated? Like it makes a difference if it’s 1990 or 2010. Rebuilds still take time regardless the year. You have to be a complete moron to think differently, truly. Dabo Swinney even took a few years to turn Clemson into a power. He didn’t do it a couple years either. There’s a recent on for you and even then Dabo don’t the issues Frost faces.

And since you seen dozen on dozen of COMPLETE REBUILDS....then name them off. I want you to show me how many coaches you seen do a complete rebuild and do it FAST. It’s one thing to hire a coach that’s been on staff or a complete new coach that comes in and takes over a team that has roster full of top 100 players. A team full of 5 star and high 4 star players. Sure, then it’s easier and you can fix them fast. But It’s a complete different story for a head coach to take over the mess like Scott Frost did.

Show me another Head Coach that took over the same type of mess Frost did (a complete dumpster fire with monster roster issues and big time recruiting misses) and fixed it fast....I’m whiling to bet you will not find another Head Coach out there that had his team fixed in 2 years with the same issues and dumpster fire like Scott Frost is facing with our Huskers now.
Wow, are you ever whining pissant in a complete meltdown!

I never said rebuilding doesn't take time, I said your examples are outdated (Barry Alvarez and Kirk Ferentz, really?), although a lot of coaches have had far better and faster turnarounds than we are seeing at Nebraska, Dan Mullen, Matt Rhule, Sonny Dykes, Luke Fickel and Tom Herman being the latest examples. At that is just in the last two years.

I am not against Frost. I fact, I think he is our only hope of ever being better than mediocre.
 

WoodRiverJennings

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WARNING! the players are getting real tired of all the negativism they read on this board

Lol

 
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MOHUSKER

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WARNING! the players are getting real tired of all the negativism they read on this board

Lol, I get it, it’s not fun to have people say you suck. But this is a team that the media and coaches claimed would compete for a division title and yet now it’s a 35% chance they’ll even make a bowl. If people speaking their opinions gets them that upset then maybe they should find something else to do.
 

Millard Husker

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Players--

Pretty please quit practicing reading message boards and practice how to make a stop in a crucial drive during the fourth quarter. Also please spend more time on your special teams during your football practices.

I do hope I said that politely enough so I didn't ruffle any feathers.

Sincerely,

A concerned fan