Frost on the RBs

[huskerssalts]

Huskerssalts you really think we have equal talent to any team in the BIG?

I strongly disagree - that is a preposterous take

Outside OSU, Michigan and PSU, yes I do. I think we are at least on par with the highest percentage of the other 10 teams in the BIG 10.

I edited the 11 teams because I forgot to take out our own Huskers. So the other 10 teams...just want make sure I’m VERY detailed and not generalize any at all.

 

[timnsun]

It was edited because I missed a few words. I didn’t add that part of it.

I read it like 5 times, it didn’t say West the first 5 times I read it.

It happens. I’ve done it too. Just say my bad and move on. It seems like only one person kind of has their panties in a bunch. Could have avoided a lot of crap in this thread if that would have happened.

 

[huskerssalts]

I read it like 5 times, it didn’t say West the first 5 times I read it.

It happens. I’ve done it too. Just say my bad and move on. It seems like only one person kind of has their panties in a bunch. Could have avoided a lot of crap in this thread if that would have happened.

Ok, if you say so. I’m just moving on brotha. I think we got the point now. In the BIG 10 west we have the talent to compete.

 

[timnsun]

Ok, if you say so. I’m just moving on brotha. I think we got the point now. In the BIG 10 west we have the talent to compete.

And I agree.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Good deal, I’m glad your focus on my one post made your point. Glad we got it fixed so your happy and we can move along. Here to help FRIEND.

I thought we moved on. Ha ha ha

To be clear, I read what YOU wrote and how YOU replied to someone who had disagreed with YOUR, now edited, post. You continued arguing with people until you started walking back your post as you realized you made a mistake in what you wrote. So do not try to put this on me dude.

As I wrote before I had moved on, but you had to get the last word so I needed to write this post.

I am moving on. Again

 

[huskerssalts]

I thought we moved on. Ha ha ha

To be clear, I read what YOU wrote and how YOU replied to someone who had disagreed with YOUR, now edited, post. You continued arguing with people until you started walking back your post as you realized you made a mistake in what you wrote. So do not try to put this on me dude.

As I wrote before I had moved on, but you had to get the last word so I needed to write this post.

I am moving on. Again

My bad, forgot you want to the last word. Oops....I did it again...wait that’s a song

 

[timnsun]

And to be clear, reread chicolby’s first response to you. Post #10. He quoted you. And it doesn’t say West at all.

It was an honest interpretation on our parts to assume you were talking all of B1G.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Huskerssalts you really think we have equal talent to any team in the BIG?

I strongly disagree - that is a preposterous take

I would take our first string offense over anyone but Ohio. Think we're missing depth and defensive playmakers, but we're a hell of a lot closer now than 12 months ago in both of those areas.

 

[huskerssalts]

And to be clear, reread chicolby’s first response to you. Post #10. He quoted you. And it doesn’t say West at all.

It was an honest interpretation on our parts to assume you were talking all of B1G.

Wasn’t this part fixed??? Or I thought it was anyways. Wait, what’s going on now?

 

[frostonthegrass]

 

[timnsun]

Wasn’t this part fixed??? Or I thought it was anyways. Wait, what’s going on now?

Yes you fixed it, but I’m talking about before it was fixed. It was an honest mistake for chicolby, tuco and me to interpret it as all of the B1G and you kind of got pissed at all of us and claim our panties are in a bunch for a generalized post you made.

All I’m saying is you shouldn’t have been surprised that some responded with surprise that you claimed we were on equal footing with all of the B1G, which is what you said, even if it isn’t what you meant.

You got awfully defensive when we misinterpreted your post. But how else were we INITIALLY supposed to take it? Not the amended version, but the original?

 

[huskerssalts]

I’ll just do it this way...yes, in my opinion, our Huskers have the talent to or equal to all the teams in the BIG 10 not named OSU, Michigan and maybe even PSU (hard to say PSU because they are one team we have done good against since joining the BIG 10). The other BIG 10 teams, yes I think we match up good and have the talent to compete with and beat. That’s enough for us to compete in the West and win the west. For now, that’s goal number 1. Jury is out if we can actually win the BIG 10. I’m in a wait and see mode there.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Moving on

 

[huskerssalts]

Now your adding yourself BACK to this Tuco. Timnsun apparently wasn’t and still had an issue to fix. But I think it’s all good now...my God I hope it is anyways lol.

 

[timnsun]

Now your adding yourself BACK to this Tuco. Timnsun apparently wasn’t and still had an issue to fix. But I think it’s all good now...my God I hope it is anyways lol.

The problem is you keep acting like you did nothing wrong and we were too stupid to understand what you meant.

I’ve tried to be patient, but now I’m a little pissed hat you still act like you did nothing wrong and the fault lies with the rest of us.

Man up and admit you made a mistake... Jeez, I didn’t do a damn thing wrong here and you still act like I won’t let go.

 

[huskerssalts]

You know what, does it really matter? I tried to explain meant in the west and I admit I screwed it up at first and didn’t make it clear and then I went over and fixed my screw up. Since then you and Tuco have done nothing but bust my balls over it. Can’t we just move along? Doesn’t it really make that big of difference one way or another?

With that said, to be honest with you, yes we do have the talent to compete with those teams. We lost by 5-6 points to a Urban Meyer OSU team at OSU stadium in prime time...and that was year one for Frost and a true freshman QB. So with all that considered...yes I do think we can compete with all the teams in the BIG 10, PERIOD!!!

 

[John_J_Rambo]

if everyone spent this much energy engaging with my posts this board would be a much better place

 

[huskerssalts]

if everyone spent this much energy engaging with my posts this board would be a much better place

Right, they had my “ISSUE” on lock down and that’s all it’s been about. My bad bro..

 

[EatsBugs]

I’ll just do it this way...yes, in my opinion, our Huskers have the talent to or equal to all the teams in the BIG 10 not named OSU, Michigan and maybe even PSU (hard to say PSU because they are one team we have done good against since joining the BIG 10). The other BIG 10 teams, yes I think we match up good and have the talent to compete with and beat. That’s enough for us to compete in the West and win the west. For now, that’s goal number 1. Jury is out if we can actually win the BIG 10. I’m in a wait and see mode there.

We don’t have the same talent as PSU.

And comparing recruiting rankings is hard when the Huskers have 26 guys leave the 16/17/18 recruiting classes and Northwestern has 3 leave.

And there in is our #1 problem - really good talent at some positions but thin at many positions in a league where it is impossible to go injury free. That will have an effect in the end.

We will need to get lucky with injuries.

 

[timnsun]

It’s all good salts, I’ve never had issues with you before. Sorry to bust your balls. You win.

 

[huskerssalts]

It’s all good salts, I’ve never had issues with you before. Sorry to bust your balls. You win.

It was never about winning or losing brotha. Just people with different opinions...all good

 

[huskerssalts]

We don’t have the same talent as PSU.

And comparing recruiting rankings is hard when the Huskers have 26 guys leave the 16/17/18 recruiting classes and Northwestern has 3 leave.

And there in is our #1 problem - really good talent at some positions but thin at many positions in a league where it is impossible to go injury free. That will have an effect in the end.

We will need to get lucky with injuries.

Right, and your right when it comes to recruiting rankings. I was just partially torn there because we have had PSUs number since we joined the BIG 10. But I agree, recruiting ranking wise...PSU appears to have it better talent wise.

 

[oldjar07]

Our talent is not equal to Ohio State and Michigan. It’s just not, if you give any credence to recruiting services. That doesn’t mean we can’t develop the talent we have into great teams... I think we can.

But I agree with chicolby that it’s not the same level of talent at this point. If it were, we wouldn’t be saying 8-4, 9-3 record... we would be saying 11-1, 12-0.

Nebraska’s schedule is the easiest we’ve seen in decades, and if all we do is 9-3, we are not on equal footing with the top dogs in the conference. Either that, or our coaching is suspect, which I don’t think most of us believe.

I give far less credence to any recruiting service compared to what you can see on the field. That being said, it's hard to tell what talent you actually have if it's not being developed and utilized properly. Not a lot of people realized how good Ozigbo could be. The truth is he had that level of talent all along. It just took the proper development and system from the coaches along with his own hard work to showcase the talent he had.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Started reading this when it was fixed,I agree mostly, but time to move on.

 

[huskerssalts]

Even with the loss of Stanley Morgan, Frost feels we have more weapons this year which will be more difficult for opposing defenses..

Got side tracked earlier and i meant to chime in on this. I agree with Frost, last year it’s seemed like it was just JD Speilman and Stan Morgan Jr. This year we lose Stan but we did gain K Noa from Cal, a junior JD Speilman, more experienced Kade Warner, J Woodyard, Mike Williams, M Jones and A Hunt. Then we top that off with a elite WR in Wan’Dale Robinson (that could be our version of R Moore) and then we add some young talent in D Chase, D Houston, and J Nance. We have a lot more weapons then we did last year at WRs. Give a QB like Adrian Martinez some toys like that...that’s spells troubles for BIG defenses. Even more so if we keep Maurice Washington and D Mills pans out.

 

[TruHusker]

So salts, not trying to pour salt on a wound (pun intended) but by what metric do you use to say we have better talent than anyone in the west? Not nitpicking but how do you know, I mean REALLY know. Seems if you are making the comparison you have to have data to do it unless it is just a gut feeling.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

So salts, not trying to pour salt on a wound (pun intended) but by what metric do you use to say we have better talent than anyone in the west? Not nitpicking but how do you know, I mean REALLY know. Seems if you are making the comparison you have to have data to do it unless it is just a guy feeling.

I don't need to stick up for the guy...but when you are a fan of a team you just believe...

Look, I don't think that NU will win it all this year...but at the same time I kind of think they will win it all.

Being a fan is like when you start dating a new sloot...those first 4-5 weeks SHE IS PERFECT and no matter what your friends say about her...you still think she is perfect.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Sorry, but we don't have the talent of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Sorry, but we don't have the talent of Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State.

Based on what? USC has done well recruiting and they suck...

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Sucks for USC I guess, but I'm just disputing salty's claim that we have the best talent in the BiG TeN.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

I think we'll be surprised by our wrs. Our run game wont miss a beat.
We are at the point where we can compete against anyone, individually or by position,it varies.

I know iowas been putting guys in the pros, and of course,osu,but I saw those games, they didnt look superior,better? Maybe, but not by much.
Same players,same teams, lets see how we look this year.

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

sounds like 15-0

That gets us in the Super Bowl, right? Beat the Pats!

 

[inWV]

So salts, not trying to pour salt on a wound (pun intended) but by what metric do you use to say we have better talent than anyone in the west? Not nitpicking but how do you know, I mean REALLY know. Seems if you are making the comparison you have to have data to do it unless it is just a guy feeling.

Rivals rankings. NU has led the West in recruiting for the last 5 years, mostly by a comfortable margin. It hasn’t been talent but development of talent .

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

So how was practice?

 

[o_Hit]

I think 40% of the posters on this board are fans of other teams who are pretending to be Husker fans.

 

[TruHusker]

Rivals rankings. NU has led the West in recruiting for the last 5 years, mostly by a comfortable margin. It hasn’t been talent but development of talent .

That's fine, one metric, but not a very good one. I can't even count the number of players we have lost the last few years, several 4 star guys.

One of the things that frustrated me with Bo was he would have a good class, not great, but miss out totally on a position group, like no LBs and then we are playing catch up for that position. That's why I don't get as worked up as some do about recruiting stars, they matter, don't get me wrong, but filling needs is equally important.

 

[Cornicator]

I'm not sure I agree that our starting groups are as good as any in the B1G. QB - absolutely. WR - unknown, likely down. O Line: Questionable D Line: Nope Linebackers: Nope, Secondary: Has a lot of improvement to show before I'd call them as good as any.

This team has potential, but to say Nebraska's only problem is depth is a stretch.

QB- 1st
RB- 4th
WR- 7th
TE- 3rd
OL- 8th

DL- 4th
LB- 10th
CB- 3rd
S- 8th

LB is still the weakest link for like the 5th year in a row. I think the front line starters at backer will make fewer mistakes due to familiarity with the system, but they still have limitations. And the depth is almost nonexistent.

Front end and back ends of the defense will good though. There is no doubt in my mind.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

QB- 1st
RB- 4th
WR- 7th
TE- 3rd
OL- 8th

DL- 4th
LB- 10th
CB- 3rd
S- 8th

LB is still the weakest link for like the 5th year in a row. I think the front line starters at backer will make fewer mistakes due to familiarity with the system, but they still have limitations. And the depth is almost nonexistent.

Front end and back ends of the defense will good though. There is no doubt in my mind.

Do you rank our wide receivers 7th because of the fact that they are new and unproven, or do you think the talent level is just middle of the pack?

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

I'm generally scoring this a bit higher.

QB- 1st
RB- 1st - 2nd (Mills, Washington, Wandale)
WR- 2nd, 3rd at worst. Speilman, Noa, Wandale, Warner, Williams
TE- 2nd
OL- 5-6th - kind of unknown, but should be better, top 30% of conf

DL- 2nd or 3rd (upperclassmen with experience)
LB- 8th? (I think it's a bit unknown, but certainly improved)
CB- 2nd or 3rd (the B1G)
S- 3-4th (also think we should see improvement here)

I think we have a legit shot to go 12-0

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

I'm generally scoring this a bit higher.

QB- 1st
RB- 1st - 2nd (Mills, Washington, Wandale)
WR- 2nd, 3rd at worst. Speilman, Noa, Wandale, Warner, Williams
TE- 2nd
OL- 5-6th - kind of unknown, but should be better, top 30% of conf

DL- 2nd or 3rd (upperclassmen with experience)
LB- 8th? (I think it's a bit unknown, but certainly improved)
CB- 2nd or 3rd (the B1G)
S- 3-4th (also think we should see improvement here)

I think we have a legit shot to go 12-0

I think we have a shot at 12-0. However, that is super difficult to do even for Alabama, OU, OSU and so on. It is damn hard to get 18-22 year old guys to maintain the same level of intensity and focus through 12 games. We are also lacking in depth at key spots. If Martinez goes down no way we are 12-0. If we lose one or two linebackers we do not go 12-0. If we lose our intensity we can easily lose to about 9 or 10 teams on our schedule. Not that we will, lol, but just that any one of those teams can bite us in the *** if we don’t bring our “A” game. There is usually one brain fart game in every team’s season. Like us committing 8 turnovers and losing to a vastly inferior Iowa State team in Lincoln during the Pelini years. Or 1997 versus Missouri. No way that game should have been that close.