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And the biggest thing is I don’t remember him talking like this last year. He was a lot more cautious and kept pointing out we had a long ways to go. This year he seems more confident and liking what he sees. I definitely for see a better season this year. Absolutely no reason not to go 8-4 to 9-3.
 

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And the biggest thing is I don’t remember him talking like this last year. He was a lot more cautious and kept pointing out we had a long ways to go. This year he seems more confident and liking what he sees. I definitely for see a better season this year. Absolutely no reason not to go 8-4 to 9-3.

We’re thin at key positions. A few untimely injuries and this season could still go sideways. We have a lot of potential but all it takes one or two plays and we could struggle to get to 8-4 very easily
 

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We’re thin at key positions. A few untimely injuries and this season could still go sideways. We have a lot of potential but all it takes one or two plays and we could struggle to get to 8-4 very easily

Agreed and your not wrong. But until that happens....our starting groups are as good as any in the BIG 10 WEST, and we could have a real special season. But yes, we definitely need more depth and that’s one area Frost, Walters and Chin are working overtime on to fix and make better. Until then, We have to use what we have and make the most of it. Some is more talent and some is player development.
 
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Agreed and your not wrong. But until that happens....our starting groups are as good as any in the BIG 10, and we could have a real special season. But yes, we definitely need more depth and that’s one area Frost, Walters and Chin are working overtime on to fix and make better. Until then, all Frost is doing what he can, with what he has. It’s all he can do for now.
I'm not sure I agree that our starting groups are as good as any in the B1G. QB - absolutely. WR - unknown, likely down. O Line: Questionable D Line: Nope Linebackers: Nope, Secondary: Has a lot of improvement to show before I'd call them as good as any.

This team has potential, but to say Nebraska's only problem is depth is a stretch.
 

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I'm not sure I agree that our starting groups are as good as any in the B1G. QB - absolutely. WR - unknown, likely down. O Line: Questionable D Line: Nope Linebackers: Nope, Secondary: Has a lot of improvement to show before I'd call them as good as any.

This team has potential, but to say Nebraska's only problem is depth is a stretch.

Well you got your opinion and I got mine. I’m definitely glad I don’t see it the same way as a couple of you do. Mike Riley and his staff wasn’t very good at player development and we are seeing it happen now. It’s not like we had nothing but 2 star players that are absolutely horrible. We have recruited top 25 and up for years...all they players need was a REAL S&C, dietitian and Coaches that know how to develop...and we have that now. So forgive me when I disagree with our issue being a depth problem...it’s definitely not a “STRETCH”.
 
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I'm not sure I agree that our starting groups are as good as any in the B1G. QB - absolutely. WR - unknown, likely down. O Line: Questionable D Line: Nope Linebackers: Nope, Secondary: Has a lot of improvement to show before I'd call them as good as any.

This team has potential, but to say Nebraska's only problem is depth is a stretch.

this is so right, when will the huskers replace every player they have with every player on clemson's roster?!?

only then would we have a chance to be moderately competitive in the B1G against traditional titans purdue and minnesota

you're a hero for posting this, it's what everyone's been thinking all off-season. thank you for your service
 

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this is so right, when will the huskers replace every player they have with every player on clemson's roster?!?

only then would we have a chance to be moderately competitive in the B1G against traditional titans purdue and minnesota

you're a hero for posting this, it's what everyone's been thinking all off-season. thank you for your service
Give me a break. I love the Huskers and hope they go clean, but to believe the starting groups are the tops in the entire B1G is just unrealistic. If you look at Ohio State and Michigan alone, you'll see they've recruited to 10 and even top 5 level classes for every year during the past 3 - 4 seasons. Clemson didn't become the best team in the country after one year. They took 3 - 4 years of improved performance on the field followed by recruiting success.

I'd love Nebraska to win 'em all or at least get to the B1G Championship game. I think it's a great goal to have to win the West. I just won't make some claims that Nebraska's starters are as good as any others in the conference. It's just not true.
 

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Give me a break. I love the Huskers and hope they go clean, but to believe the starting groups are the tops in the entire B1G is just unrealistic. If you look at Ohio State and Michigan alone, you'll see they've recruited to 10 and even top 5 level classes for every year during the past 3 - 4 seasons. Clemson didn't become the best team in the country after one year. They took 3 - 4 years of improved performance on the field followed by recruiting success.

I'd love Nebraska to win 'em all or at least get to the B1G Championship game. I think it's a great goal to have to win the West. I just won't make some claims that Nebraska's starters are as good as any others in the conference. It's just not true.

Then don’t...you see some issues that some of us don’t see or agree with. That’s your thing...not ours. But don’t act like we should see it your way like it’s obvious, Because your definitely going to find a bunch of us that disagree with you. This season will prove who’s right and wrong...till then it’s just opinions.

Let’s get this clear now, we have the talent to compete and win the West. I’m not claiming we have the talent to win the BIG 10 all together and have a play off run. But yep, we haven’t recruited top 10 and up for years but we have recruited top 25 and up for years (Top 15 last year)...which will be enough to compete and win the West and get into the BIG 10 title games. That’s goal number one.
 
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Give me a break. I love the Huskers and hope they go clean, but to believe the starting groups are the tops in the entire B1G is just unrealistic. If you look at Ohio State and Michigan alone, you'll see they've recruited to 10 and even top 5 level classes for every year during the past 3 - 4 seasons. Clemson didn't become the best team in the country after one year. They took 3 - 4 years of improved performance on the field followed by recruiting success.

I'd love Nebraska to win 'em all or at least get to the B1G Championship game. I think it's a great goal to have to win the West. I just won't make some claims that Nebraska's starters are as good as any others in the conference. It's just not true.

unlike michigan, which does nothing but underperform, the huskers have a chance to be greater than the sum of its parts

recruiting rankings are made by and for dweebs
 
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Give me a break. I love the Huskers and hope they go clean, but to believe the starting groups are the tops in the entire B1G is just unrealistic. If you look at Ohio State and Michigan alone, you'll see they've recruited to 10 and even top 5 level classes for every year during the past 3 - 4 seasons. Clemson didn't become the best team in the country after one year. They took 3 - 4 years of improved performance on the field followed by recruiting success.

I'd love Nebraska to win 'em all or at least get to the B1G Championship game. I think it's a great goal to have to win the West. I just won't make some claims that Nebraska's starters are as good as any others in the conference. It's just not true.

Agree. QB is about the only position where we could argue.

RB - Decent collection, but middle of the pack
OL - Decent collection, but somewhere in the middle
WR - Speilman upper level, but somewhere in the middle towards the top I'd say

DL - Middle of the road
LB - Middle of the road
Secondary - Upper tier I'd say, but still not at the top

We have some nice talent, but still have a few years. I'm happy to see we are actually able to start developing talent vs. just acquiring it. So we've got that going for us, which is nice.
 

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Our talent is not equal to Ohio State and Michigan. It’s just not, if you give any credence to recruiting services. That doesn’t mean we can’t develop the talent we have into great teams... I think we can.

But I agree with chicolby that it’s not the same level of talent at this point. If it were, we wouldn’t be saying 8-4, 9-3 record... we would be saying 11-1, 12-0.

Nebraska’s schedule is the easiest we’ve seen in decades, and if all we do is 9-3, we are not on equal footing with the top dogs in the conference. Either that, or our coaching is suspect, which I don’t think most of us believe.
 
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Our talent is not equal to Ohio State and Michigan. It’s just not, if you give any credence to recruiting services. That doesn’t mean we can’t develop the talent we have into great teams... I think we can.

But I agree with chicolby that it’s not the same level of talent at this point. If it were, we wouldn’t be saying 8-4, 9-3 record... we would be saying 11-1, 12-0.

Nebraska’s schedule is the easiest we’ve seen in decades, and if all we do is 9-3, we are not on equal footing with the top dogs in the conference. Either that, or our coaching is suspect, which I don’t think most of us believe.

Right and the biggest issue he’s having is he’s comparing us to OSU and Michigan. When we are just simply talking about winning the west...which doesn’t revolve around OSU or Michigan, Just Wisconsin and Iowa (luckily for us they don’t recruit top 10, usually they recruit top 25-30).
 
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Then don’t...you see some issues that some of us don’t see or agree with. That’s your thing...not ours. But don’t act like we should see it your way like it’s obvious, Because your definitely going to find a bunch of us that disagree with you. This season will prove who’s right and wrong...till then it’s just opinions.

Let’s get this clear now, we have the talent to compete and win the West. I’m not claiming we have the talent to win the BIG 10 all together and have a play off run. But yep, we haven’t recruited top 10 and up for years but we have recruited top 25 and up for years (Top 15 last year)...which will be enough to compete and win the West and get into the BIG 10 title games. That’s goal number one.


This is awesome. I love it when individuals post as if a group has designated him spokesman.

I don’t know of a single person on here, outside of apparently you, that thinks Nebraska’s starters have equal talent as those teams in the east, let alone the nation.

A person can believe Nebraska will go 9-3 or even 10-2 and not believe the starters talent level is anywhere near that of other teams.
 

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This is awesome. I love it when individuals post as if a group has designated him spokesman.

I don’t know of a single person on here, outside of apparently you, that thinks Nebraska’s starters have equal talent as those teams in the east, let alone the nation.

A person can believe Nebraska will go 9-3 or even 10-2 and not believe the starters talent level is anywhere near that of other teams.

Never said east...I said west. Reread my posts. Now your right, the guy I’m talking to keeps comparing us to the East. But me, I’m comparing us to the WEST.....W E S T!!!

You been trying hard all week to troll me around and find something you can jump on me about. Like usual, your wrong again.
 
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Given equal talent - does our coaching give us an advantage or are we simply not disadvantaged compared to other teams - particularly the west teams
 

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Ok Top Gun says recruiting stars are for dweebs. Salts says we have been recruiting top 25 talent for years and that should be enough along with better coaching, s&c and nutrition. Others say the schedule makes us better. Others talk about holes in this team.

If you are pointing out possible problem areas you aren’t really a fan, you are a Debbie downer kind of person. Heaven forbid someone say that we are looking to replace two linemen, a guard and center and one just got moved there and the other is a walk on. We use 4 lbs and one is proven, the rest have been inconsistent or injured.

The reports coming from fall camp are all rosey and everyone is “getting it.”

Even in the glory years, there were weaknesses in the roster. I also think the schedule, while easier, is still a challenge. Just because it says Purdue doesn’t mean it is the same Purdue but I guess that isn’t a factor either. Reality, few really know how good the other teams are going to be, they are drinking their own juice right now, just like us. I will wait and see but the reasoning that we don’t have holes is misplaced IMO.
 
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Never said east...I said west. Reread my posts. Now your right, the guy I’m talking to keeps comparing us to the East. But me, I’m comparing us to the WEST.....W E S T!!!

You been trying hard all week to troll me around and find something you can jump on me about. Like usual, your wrong again.

Dude you really need to read the posts you reply to. The post you replies to said we don’t have the starting talent of all the Big Ten. To which you replied as elected spokesman of your group. The one where you said you and your followers don’t believe like he does.
 
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Right and the biggest issue he’s having is he’s comparing us to OSU and Michigan. When we are just simply talking about winning the west...which doesn’t revolve around OSU or Michigan, Just Wisconsin and Iowa (luckily for us they don’t recruit top 10, usually they recruit top 25-30).
This I can agree with. You didn’t specify the West, but mentioned the B1G in general, which led me to believe you were comparing us to the entire conference. We are equal to, and even better than, the West in recruiting.
 
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Agreed and your not wrong. But until that happens....our starting groups are as good as any in the BIG 10, and we could have a real special season. But yes, we definitely need more depth and that’s one area Frost, Walters and Chin are working overtime on to fix and make better. Until then, We have to use what we have and make the most of it. Some is more talent and some is player development.


No mention of big ten west here. Just big ten.
 

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Dude you really need to read the posts you reply to. The post you replies to said we don’t have the starting talent of all the Big Ten. To which you replied as elected spokesman of your group. The one where you said you and your followers don’t believe like he does.

What are talking about Tuco??? Are seeing what your posting??? Wow
 

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No mention of big ten west here. Just big ten.

There you go Boss. I fixed it. Yes sir, I generalized it in that post. But then over and over again made it clear I meant West. Now the main issue is fixed and now we can move forward. I added the WEST part of it. We good now, panties out of bunch???
 

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There you go Boss. I fixed it. Yes sir, I generalized it in that post. But then over and over again made it clear I meant West. Now the main issue is fixed and now we can move forward. I added the WEST part of it. We good now, panties out of bunch???
Easy there, salts, the three who took issue with your post all thought you were referring to B1G in general... to which you recognize we aren’t there yet overall in the conference.

It was an honest interpretation on our part, and now we have greater clarity overall. Same page with ya buddy...
 
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Ok Top Gun says recruiting stars are for dweebs. Salts says we have been recruiting top 25 talent for years and that should be enough along with better coaching, s&c and nutrition. Others say the schedule makes us better. Others talk about holes in this team.

If you are pointing out possible problem areas you aren’t really a fan, you are a Debbie downer kind of person. Heaven forbid someone say that we are looking to replace two linemen, a guard and center and one just got moved there and the other is a walk on. We use 4 lbs and one is proven, the rest have been inconsistent or injured.

The reports coming from fall camp are all rosey and everyone is “getting it.”

Even in the glory years, there were weaknesses in the roster. I also think the schedule, while easier, is still a challenge. Just because it says Purdue doesn’t mean it is the same Purdue but I guess that isn’t a factor either. Reality, few really know how good the other teams are going to be, they are drinking their own juice right now, just like us. I will wait and see but the reasoning that we don’t have holes is misplaced IMO.

recruiting stars are far from end-all be-all & should be taken with an ocean's worth of grains of salt

we are a young, inexperienced team. there will always be holes. we will not go unbeaten, largely due to those holes and also the fact football is, wait for it, played on the field and not on paper.

for that same reason, we could be greater than the sum of our parts. parts which are whittled down to a number assigned when they're 17 years old by dweebs.
 
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There you go Boss. I fixed it. Yes sir, I generalized it in that post. But then over and over again made it clear I meant West. Now the main issue is fixed and now we can move forward. I added the WEST part of it. We good now, panties out of bunch???

The entire discussion stemmed from you “generalizing” big ten.
 

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Easy there, salts, the three who took issue with your post all thought you were referring to B1G in general... to which you recognize we aren’t there yet overall in the conference.

It was an honest interpretation on our part, and now we have greater clarity overall. Same page with ya buddy...

Let’s get this clear now, we have the talent to compete and win the West. I’m not claiming we have the talent to win the BIG 10 all together and have a play off run. But yep, we haven’t recruited top 10 and up for years but we have recruited top 25 and up for years (Top 15 last year)...which will be enough to compete and win the West and get into the BIG 10 title games. That’s goal number one.”

This didn’t help? That’s my other post
 

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Let’s get this clear now, we have the talent to compete and win the West. I’m not claiming we have the talent to win the BIG 10 all together and have a play off run. But yep, we haven’t recruited top 10 and up for years but we have recruited top 25 and up for years (Top 15 last year)...which will be enough to compete and win the West and get into the BIG 10 title games. That’s goal number one.”

This didn’t help? That’s my other post
Crystal clear. But that’s the edited post. The initial post was the only post, and it said B1G. Only after you edited it did it say West.

Just take it easy, I agree with you, but you never once said west in any other post until much later. I think you believed it to be true but never stated it. So what were we supposed to assume, if you aren’t specific? We aren’t mind readers.
 

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Crystal clear. But that’s the edited post. The initial post was the only post, and it said B1G. Only after you edited it did it say West.

Just take it easy, I agree with you, but you never once said west in any other post until much later. I think you believed it to be true but never stated it. So what were we supposed to assume, if you aren’t specific? We aren’t mind readers.

It was edited because I missed a few words. I didn’t add that part of it.