Miles will stay
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I think the reason would be that if Moos is not in Chicago, or won't be in Lincoln tomorrow, it might look bad to fire him over the phone.
If he has someone lined up, I don't see a big deal in waiting until Sunday or even Monday. I'm still not 100% convinced that a change is going to be made.
If he does have someone lined up, and say if was someone like Hoiberg, why not wait a few days until after Selection Sunday? If that is announced now, it kind of gets lost with the media attention around the selections.
I would have hoped that he would have been "Contingency Plan #1", meaning if all the "Big Names" he would target were to say no, he's the first mid-major guy. But who knows, and it's probably moot now.
And implements an offense that shows consistent motion......
They beat Rutgers and a MD that tanks every year come Feb/March.
Why are some of you acting like they just beat Duke and UNC?
Why are some of you acting like they just beat Duke and UNC?
He needs a offensive identity, man some of his games were brutal to watch. Plus a big. To me miles had to opportunity several years ago to hire a offensive assistant and he didn't do it?
The two guys who can create and make shots spent most of Jan and all of Feb not making any shots.
When you watched Miles teams the one thing that always stuck out to me was how bad of a passing team they were. They never seemed to catch the ball clean or deliver the ball on target. Always seemed to rush passes or struggle to catch the ball clean. And believer it or not that split second can make or break you on offense. That can be the difference to a wide open dunk vs a forced guarded layup , or a good shot vs a forced one.
When I watched Purdue this year, and I know they lost tonight, they seemed to move the rock around extremely well. They didn’t have great talent this year but they made up for it by moving the rock around smoothly. Split seconds can make or break a team tremendously in basketball. Miles teams were never smooth and it can’t be just a coincidence caused by talent. I see plenty of teams that lack talent but play sound basketball and win games.
Look at St Mary’s. That team isn’t loaded with talent but year in and year out they win. I know they play in a lesser conference but they just beat the #1 team in the nation. You’d be surprised how just playing sound basketball can help over come a talent gap. Miles could never coach a sound basketball team. never. I don’t care if we hire a home run name, I’d just take a guy who can coach smooth basketball.
When I watched Purdue this year, and I know they lost tonight, they seemed to move the rock around extremely well. They didn’t have great talent this year but they made up for it by moving the rock around smoothly. Split seconds can make or break a team tremendously in basketball. Miles teams were never smooth and it can’t be just a coincidence caused by talent. I see plenty of teams that lack talent but play sound basketball and win games.
Look at St Mary’s. That team isn’t loaded with talent but year in and year out they win. I know they play in a lesser conference but they just beat the #1 team in the nation. You’d be surprised how just playing sound basketball can help over come a talent gap. Miles could never coach a sound basketball team. never. I don’t care if we hire a home run name, I’d just take a guy who can coach smooth basketball.
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A lot of good posts on this about the Husker basketball as they all know more about the subject than myself. But I did notice on our team no 6'8 6'9, 6' 10 rebounders. What about a associate coach getting paid 600k to 800k that can recruit these guys! Is that too simple. Thanks
The best his offenses ever did was allow guys like Petteway and Palmer to play hero ball and jack up 25 shots a game in the hopes that 10 to 15 would go in and they'd put up 25 to 30 points and we'd win 65 to 60. That's not an offensive game plan. That's praying your best player carries you through games. Palmer disappeared for 2 months and we lost the vast majority of our games. He showed up 3 of the past 4 games and we won 3. You can't live and die on talent alone when you're at Nebraska.
We did recruit those guys in Tshimanga, Jacobsen, and Morrow. Timmy chased them all off with his coaching style and personality.
Yes, I understand this, but wouldn't a smart head coach have an Asst. head coach on hand to play good coach, bad coach and keep players happy?
Correction: Translation, all you clowns emailing me to do it now don't get your panties in a wad. I'll finish my evaluation AFTER The season is over.
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Nebraska is a place where coaches go to kill their careers. Not many guys are willing to sign up for that.
The media will ***** regardless. Moos is an experienced AD and I trust his judgement. Doubt he really cares what a few talking heads have to say. It's typical for people to be blinded by the last few games and not look at the bigger picture.
Miles got pretty good talent to come here. Some of them left. The ones that didn't leave, he didn't do enough with. He's gone, and he should be gone.
Right, "Nebraska" is why they don't do well. Don't be an idiot, unless you're being sarcastic, in which case, I retract my statement.
Look at what happened to the careers of every single former Nebraska coach after they failed at NU. Was that because they just sucked or was it because they couldn't get a decent job after failing at NU?
Why did they fail at NU? Was it NU, or was it them? And if they went to another P5 school and sucked ***, would they have a ton of job offers afterwards? If it was NU causing them to suck, wouldn't other programs realize it? They didn't get other great offers because they sucked.
Seriously, how weird is this. I don't even know what you are trying to say. Nebraska kills these otherwise good coaches careers?
The FACT remains that no coach who has left NU has gone on to any measure of success elsewhere. Prospective hires notice things like that.
Assistant coaches have. Head coaches, no they haven't. But if a coach blames others for their lack of success, then they are bitches, period. How pathetic, and if a coach thinks that they can't do well at a place like Nebraska, who has proven that they are committed to basketball, and whose fans have proven they are committed to basketball, I don't want them; they've already lost. They can go play with Bo at YSU.
What former assistant from NU has gone on to any kind of success? Even IF, being an assistant is way different than being the head coach. The problem for a head coach is that once you're known as a .500 coach over 7 years at a Power 5 conference school it takes a whole bunch of rehab to ever remove that stank. Your chances of living long enough and winning enough to ever get a good head coaching job are fairly slim. Moe Iba got canned and became an assistant at DRAKE then got hired by TCU where he failed miserably for a few years before leaving coaching.
To be fair, none of them were all that successful before they were hired here. Miles, Sadler, Collier, Iba, Cipriano - none of them won a single NCAA Tournament game as a head coach before Nebraska. Nee I think won one NCAA game at Ohio in 6 years, nothing special - and he was our best coach by far.
A proven coach with a history of success, like Thad Matta, would win a lot of games here.
I realize it's hard to spare 10-12 seconds to actually read what I posted, which was this:
That doesn’t mean people are beating down the door to get the NU job, but the field isn’t dwindling because a few people are slobbering over Miles.
My point, which I think was quite clear, is that nobody who was ever willing to take the Nebraska job is going to turn it down just because Miles was fired, or because Andy Katz and Lee Barfknecht take to Twitter to say what an injustice it was. The field of prospective coaches is exactly what it would be if Miles chose to leave on his own.
I understand that. I didn't disagree with your post at all. My point is that IF people are turning Moos down it's because its the Nebraska job. Not because of the Miles lobby.
If you're a .500 coach at a P5 school that's on the coach. How do you think it is even debatable. Miles even said it in his 2nd year when a reporter asked him about NU's history, I think his words were "don't put that **** on me." He knew it and understood it. Take a second to think about what you are trying to say; it makes zero sense. It's completely bizarre for a person to think the way you are thinking. Are you really saying that there is a curse on NU basketball?
Why does the Big Ten Network work so hard at supporting lame duck coaches? I couldn't believe Katz said what he did about how Miles should remain the Husker coach because he is such a high character guy and the Huskers have never been and never will be a basketball powerhouse. Katz reminded me of when Big Ten Network's Gary DiNardo passionately called for Riley to keep his job. The same old high character stuff. Makes you wonder if the Big Ten would just as soon see Nebraska not do well in the two biggest sports.
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And it makes even less sense when Katz was talking Nebraska up big time last year and the start of this year too. He had huge expectations for NU and we fell flat on our *** and he's saying we should just accept it?
No. I'm saying that other than Nee, nobody has been able to get enough talent to NU and keep it here to win consistently. Even Nee though got snubbed by the NCAA with his best team. There are so many easier jobs to take where you recruit from your car and probably have an easier path to the tourney than at NU. IF your a good coach with options, why in heaven's name would you take the NU job over a job in a major metro area with D-1 recruits littering the landscape?
I figured out a long time ago that sports broadcasters are largely guys who can't hold a regular job.....
There are plenty of schools without a great recruiting base, and without our facilities and support, that do well. Miles got enough talent here to win consistently, and he couldn't do it. "Recruit from your car." I've heard that somewhere before.
Yeah then Dave Revsine chimes is with, "Well whatever happens, it's clear that Tim Miles has done a fantastic job at Nebraska..."
Fantastic? Really? Perhaps I've been using that term incorrectly my whole life.
Getting an invite to the tournament once every 7+ years (zero chance he would get them there next year) is fantastic.
Justin Patton, Khyri Thomas, Mike Daum, Mike Gesell, Brady Heiman, Mitch Hahn, Tyler Hagedorn, Teddy Allen, David Wingett, Baylor Scheierman, Akol Arop, Donovan Williams, Chucky Hepburn, Hunter Sallis, Xavier Foster, Matthew Mors, Ty Berry......in recent years, there's been/will be plenty of talent within driving distance to build a program around.
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I like Tim and hope he gets a few more years. Losing Copeland was a major blow. Miles built a pretty good team this year and it’s not a guarantee that guys can be motivated. I thought-even with all his success-Palmer was the Achilles. Not urgency whatsoever.