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Probably a fair bet as I could see either NE or IA playing in the B1G Championship game next year. Frankly I think Minnesota, Purdue and Wisconsin have about the same chance. Still scratching my head as to how Northwestern got into the game this past season.

To answer your question, Northwestern got into the game by beating every team it played from the Western Division and two of the three it played from the Eastern Division. Glad to help you clear that up.
 
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Northwestern: I'm sure they will have some tiny white guy we can't cover on 3rd down, in the slot.
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Actually, we've recruited a couple of tall black guys to go along with the tiny white guy this year. Nebraska seems to be coming on. Looking forward to next season.
 
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Actually, we've recruited a couple of tall black guys to go along with the tiny white guy this year. Nebraska seems to be coming on. Looking forward to next season.

That’s nice, but you know our kryptonite. Little white guys with names like Flynn and Austin.[/QUOTE]

Flynn didn't only do that against Nebraska. He was having a nice season until he got hurt the last couple of games.
 
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That’s nice, but you know our kryptonite. Little white guys with names like Flynn and Austin.

Flynn didn't only do that against Nebraska. He was having a nice season until he got hurt the last couple of games.[/QUOTE]

He was a good player and so was Carr.
 
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steventrelain

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To be taken seriously the west needs to win its fair share of conf titles

Since formation in 2014 the west has never won the conference. The divisions are judged nationally by their top teams. Until it proves otherwise the teams in the west are playing for the right to lose in the conf championship to the east representative.

Can't disagree with what you posted, but surprised you didn't mention the West was 4-1 and the East was 1-3 in bowl games
 

Redscarlet

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I can't disagree with much in this thread other than Penn State not being a blue blood.

http://www.winsipedia.com/nebraska/vs/penn-state

I tend to agree with you, despite them being a Independent they are right be hind Nebraska in winning pct and in the top 10 in that category and 10 wins behind us in all Time wins even though Nebraska should be 905 and not 897 and I have discussed this before why.
 
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I tend to agree with you, despite them being a Independent they are right be hind Nebraska in winning pct and in the top 10 in that category and 10 wins behind us in all Time wins even though Nebraska should be 905 and not 897 and I have discussed this before why.

People tend to forget, if they ever knew, that those Penn, Syracuse, Pitt and service academy teams Penn State was playing back in the day were not the second-tier teams they are today. Army and Navy used to annually be among the toughest teams in the country — Navy was No. 2 as recently as the early '60s (Roger Staubach team) and Army had an undefeated team and Heisman winner in the late '50s. Syracuse featured backs such as Jim Brown, Floyd Little, Larry Czonka and Ernie Davis — not bad.
 

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how long before one is at risk for losing "blue blood" status?
The criteria are subjective but there probably is some requirement for present day/recent success befitting of a blue blood .. blue bloods are expected to be elite .. there has to be more than just total wins, most of which are meaningless

I defined an elite season (worthy of blue blood status) as a top 10 finish or major bowl appearance (NY6 equivalent)

The last blue blood worthy season Nebraska has had dates all the way back to 2001 (nearly 2 decades)

Listed is what other blue blood programs have accomplished since that time (2001)

Texas - 7 top 10s, 5 major bowls, 1 nat title
USC - 9 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 2 nat titles
Alabama - 12 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 5 nat titles
Michigan - 5 top 10s, 6 major bowls
OSU - 15 top 10s, 14 major bowls, 2 nat titles
ND - 3 top 10s, 5 major bowls
OU - 11 top 10s, 13 major bowls
Penn State - 5 top 10s, 4 major bowls


Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 5 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 10 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 15 years

we need to start producing or we are going to get kicked out of the club
 
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Redscarlet

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how long before one is at risk for losing "blue blood" status?
The criteria are subjective but there probably is some requirement for present day/recent success befitting of a blue blood .. blue bloods are expected to be elite .. there has to be more than just total wins, most of which are meaningless

I defined an elite season (worthy of blue blood status) as a top 10 finish or major bowl appearance (NY6 equivalent)

The last blue blood worthy season Nebraska has had dates all the back to 2001 (nearly 2 decades)

Listed is what other blue blood programs have accomplished since that time (2001)

Texas - 7 top 10s, 5 major bowls, 1 nat title
USC - 9 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 2 nat titles
Alabama - 12 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 5 nat titles
Michigan - 5 top 10s, 6 major bowls
OSU - 15 top 10s, 14 major bowls, 2 nat titles
ND - 3 top 10s, 5 major bowls
OU - 11 top 10s, 13 major bowls
Penn State - 5 top 10s, 4 major bowls


Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 5 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 10 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 15 years

we need to start having some elite seasons or we are going to get kicked out of the club

Fully aware most of us know how we haven’t lived up to the Devaney, Osborne legacy,every time a read something like this I get more pissed at Eichorst for hiring Riley but I guess we wouldn’t have the man that we want like we do now..
 
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Eichorst at least ripped off the bandaid and got the wound exposed ..not sure we could have dealt with 7 more years of irrelevancy. Riley was a means to an end, in the end .
 

steventrelain

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Listed is what other blue blood programs have accomplished since that time (2001)

Texas - 7 top 10s, 5 major bowls, 1 nat title
USC - 9 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 2 nat titles
Alabama - 12 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 5 nat titles
Michigan - 5 top 10s, 6 major bowls
OSU - 15 top 10s, 14 major bowls, 2 nat titles
ND - 3 top 10s, 5 major bowls
OU - 11 top 10s, 13 major bowls
Penn State - 5 top 10s, 4 major bowls
Iowa - 5 top 10s, 3 major bowls

Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 5 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 10 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 15 years

we need to start producing or we are going to get kicked out of the club
 

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Why, steventrelain? Can’t you read? The list by jlb321 was all those who are known as blue bloods. Why would you embarrass yourself by inserting Iowa into the argument? Do you think you are convincing people here to agree with you?
 
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I tend to agree with you, despite them being a Independent they are right be hind Nebraska in winning pct and in the top 10 in that category and 10 wins behind us in all Time wins even though Nebraska should be 905 and not 897 and I have discussed this before why.


Nebraska has the edge in wins, conference titles and National Titles but Penn State is close. I would like to see these two programs play annually. They are both considered newbies (even though Penn State has like 30 years)in the very old and classic oriented B1G. Neither really has an arch rival either. Penn State has Ohio State but Ohio State views Michigan as their main rival (obviously).
 
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how long before one is at risk for losing "blue blood" status?
The criteria are subjective but there probably is some requirement for present day/recent success befitting of a blue blood .. blue bloods are expected to be elite .. there has to be more than just total wins, most of which are meaningless

I defined an elite season (worthy of blue blood status) as a top 10 finish or major bowl appearance (NY6 equivalent)

The last blue blood worthy season Nebraska has had dates all the way back to 2001 (nearly 2 decades)

Listed is what other blue blood programs have accomplished since that time (2001)

Texas - 7 top 10s, 5 major bowls, 1 nat title
USC - 9 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 2 nat titles
Alabama - 12 top 10s, 9 major bowls, 5 nat titles
Michigan - 5 top 10s, 6 major bowls
OSU - 15 top 10s, 14 major bowls, 2 nat titles
ND - 3 top 10s, 5 major bowls
OU - 11 top 10s, 13 major bowls
Penn State - 5 top 10s, 4 major bowls


Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 5 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 10 years
Nebraska is the only program without an elite season in the past 15 years

we need to start producing or we are going to get kicked out of the club


Excellent post.

Funny to think that Alabama has done all that damage in just 10 years. They were largely absent in the mid 90s to 2008 when it came to excellent seasons.

I haven't looked at their recruiting rank8ng during those years.

Penn State was no recruiting monster under Joe Paterno. Ohio State was good but regularly getting housed by the SEC and faster teams like USC before Urban got there. Michigan was largely the same before Harbaugh.

Notre Dame is still getting blitzed whenever they play a Clemson or Alabama.

Can Frost bring in the guys to not only beat Iowa and Wisconsin, but also Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State or the heavies in the south?
 

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People tend to forget, if they ever knew, that those Penn, Syracuse, Pitt and service academy teams Penn State was playing back in the day were not the second-tier teams they are today. Army and Navy used to annually be among the toughest teams in the country — Navy was No. 2 as recently as the early '60s (Roger Staubach team) and Army had an undefeated team and Heisman winner in the late '50s. Syracuse featured backs such as Jim Brown, Floyd Little, Larry Czonka and Ernie Davis — not bad.
Yes, and Iowa state, Kstate, Colorado basically were(yes they each had their moments) ...but ISU and Kstate pre Snyder are the dregs of D1 fb