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There are four genuine Blueblood programs in the B1G. Three of the four have recruited exceptionally well and have (had) bigger than life coaches. The fourth has a bright up and comer, but if he wasn't a alum it may not have been able to pull him from a directional school in Florida.
When looking at your respected program and judging how they stack up nationally you need four key elements.
1. History
2.Recruiting ability(footprint, brand)
3.Resources and fan support
4. Coaching talent you can bring in.
Again 3 of the four heavies can check the box on all four. The fourth is at a disadvantage when it comes to number 2 as it regards to local talent and number4 as it ties into number 2.
Penn State is not a Blue Blood.
Penn St has 52 more wins than USC and is in the Top 10 All time winning pct...just saying.
PSU and Tennessee have a great case, just traditionally those 8 are listed as blue bloods.
Yes, and from 1880 to 1959, Penn State routinely played teams like Gettysburg, Carnegie Mellon, Villanova, Penn, Washington & Jefferson, Urinisius, Lehigh, Lafayette, Muhlenburg, and Holy Cross.
Now I realize, every big time program has some laughable historical opponents. Hell, the Huskers used to play Lincoln YMCA back in the late 1800's.
But Penn State literally played what amounted to a modern D3 schedule for most of the first half of the 20th century. Their total win total should be taken into context.
Football began in 1869.
Nebraska played Lincoln High 8 games back in the 1899-1905 and up until 1989 they counted them as wins now they call them exhibitions.. Nebraska has been the only school that doesn’t count beating high school teams like USC and Texas has..
Iowa fan certainly wants more respect, they just don’t want to earn it.
I alluded to that point by mentioning Lincoln YMCA. My point was pretty simple. If you want to tout Penn State's total win total, that's fine. But keep in mind those total win numbers basically include a half century of games playing pretty much only State colleges in Pennsylvania.
I want you to say you were wrong, because you were, dumbass.
Its amazing people like you exist in 2018.
Hmmm. West is well represented. I dont see it out of nebraska other than a name CFB loves to promote. I was wrong. That's actually kinda easy to admit as I enjoy a nice little hangover of a jan 1 victory and a solid last football day with all my hawk friends.
Good article. Four teams from the B1G west mentioned. Should be an exciting year!
But you see it out of Iowa with that fossil offense that Ferentz JR runs.. Got it.
You are on a Nebraska board (see the irony) and you will “keep” winning at a pedestrian pace.
They beat us by 3, in Frost first year, with a true freshman QB, on their home field. Yep they are great, no chance against that “loaded” team at home next year.
God, you Iowa clowns are ruining this board even for lurkers like me.
You are a program that has historically won 54% of the games you have played. Maryland and Nebraska already have over 10% of Iowa's 106 all time all sports Big Ten Championships, and these teams have barely been in the conference. Even the University of Chicago, a school that probably rejected you, has 73. Teams with similar numbers to Iowa include Iowa State and Missouri. Why don't you go spend time on their boards instead of pretending like you belong here?
What do you have to show for your wins? This is all hat, no cattle, if you aske me.
We will talk because it’s a husker board and the future is brighter than it’s been for awhile, for most who post here. Why shouldn’t we talk?
But to claim you will keep winning is comedic, considering we have both played the same number of CCG in the B1G. I would be willing to bet that Nebraska will be in a CCG before Iowa, but I guess that’s just me talking.
On a husker board. Am I not allowed to do this?
Zero disrespect to Iowa for being the living embodiment of "solidly unspectacular". They know who they are and it works for them. I just took a look at Iowa's 2019 schedule. God knows they'll find a way to 8 or 9 wins somehow, but it's just as easy to see 6-6. Depends on who leaves early.
Are you talking about the same credible sports news outlets that never mentioned Iowa in their commercials promoting the NYD Bowls, never showed highlights of the game (I finally found them on the SEC network), or the ones that nicknamed you the Fake ID of College Football - is that the sources you suggest?
Being a "blue blood" program is nice and all, but... yawn.
Nebraska fans sitting around dissing programs like PSU for not being a true "blue blood" is truly kind of sad and pathetic. It has an air of desperation about it. Like a room full of aging British aristocrats circa 1925, whose land holdings, wealth, and real power have dwindled to almost nothing, sitting around and laughing at the vulgar upstarts in the House of Commons for their lack of a cultured pedigree.
All I give a **** about is winning. Part of me wishes we would put a temporary shroud over our trophy case until we actually win something of importance to put in it again.
Oh... and I hate PSU
Nebraska fans sitting around dissing programs like PSU for not being a true "blue blood" is truly kind of sad and pathetic. It has an air of desperation about it. Like a room full of aging British aristocrats circa 1925, whose land holdings, wealth, and real power have dwindled to almost nothing, sitting around and laughing at the vulgar upstarts in the House of Commons for their lack of a cultured pedigree.
All I give a **** about is winning. Part of me wishes we would put a temporary shroud over our trophy case until we actually win something of importance to put in it again.
Oh... and I hate PSU
Probably a fair bet as I could see either NE or IA playing in the B1G Championship game next year. Frankly I think Minnesota, Purdue and Wisconsin have about the same chance. Still scratching my head as to how Northwestern got into the game this past season.
I know. I trying to figure out a plausible finish that has five teams tied for first next year. It starts with Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern and Minnesota all going 2-2 against the others, while beating Illinois and Purdue, and finishing 2-1 against East opponents. Wouldn't that be fun?
You’re probably correct about both getting into preseason top 25, but what I personally find hilarious is that if Iowa was coming off a losing season and having had a losing season in 3 out of the last 4 there is no way they would be ranked preseason. Iowa is who we thought they were. Perception is reality and the national perception of Iowa is of a solid program that is never destined for greatness. While the perception of Nebraska is of a national brand that has been down and has a great chance of national relevance soon. I’m thrilled Stanley is coming back for them and hope one or both of the other QBs behind him transfer. Congrats Iowa fan on winning 4 in a row, we are as surprised and shocked as you are that it happened.
Iowa is not an elite program. It had a good run from 1981 to 1988 under Hayden Fry, ending the Big 2 in the Big Ten of Ohio State and Michigan.
They are not Elite and never have been, and only have had flash wins or streaks, but falling short. Like 1997 Michigan and Nebraska, there best MNC was a split one with LSU.
The SEC has always had breaks compared to Northern schools.
Also worthy of note. Only 15 teams (11 P5 Teams) have posted 4 consecutive years of 8 wins or more:
1 Alabama 55-3-0
2 Clemson 54-4-0
3 Ohio State 48-6-0
4 Oklahoma 46-8-0
5 App State 41-11-0
6 Wisconsin 42-12-0
7 Georgia 42-13-0
8 Boise State 40-13-0
9 Stanford 40-14-0
10 Michigan 38-14-0
11 LSU 36-14-0
12 Wash State 37-15-0
13 Iowa 37-16-0
14 Memphis 35 - 17
15 Ohio 33 - 19
Nebraska has gone over a generation from being outside Elite.
Today, the Elite is Alabama and Clemson.
Ohio State did win the first College Football Playoff in 2014, but they haven't been the same, since Clemson's 31 point blanking, and the back to back losses @ Iowa, then @ Purdue this past season.
Oklahoma, Notre Dame and Georgia have never won a CFP title. Georgia and Oklahoma played one hell of a game though.
Is your 8 win in four consecutive years list from 2015-2018? If so who cares. Although I agree, 12-2, 8-5, 8-5, 9-4 is a very good run................for teams like Iowa.
One thing this post is lacking is context...
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Nebraska under Osborne won 9 or more games every single season for 25 years. Why isn’t Nebraska on your list?
Every year under Pelini (7 years) Nebraska won 9 or more games as well. But it looks like you are taking the last 4 or 5 years to make Iowa look good, a stretch that obviously has not been kind to Nebraska.
What is the point of your post again? Iowa is among the upper echelon the last 4 years for winning 8 games a year? Because if that is what you are saying, that’s pretty arbitrary.
I believe he is some sort of amateur journalist that always tries to drop his articles over here. Most of them are TLDR
Is your 8 win in four consecutive years list from 2015-2018? If so who cares. Although I agree, 12-2, 8-5, 8-5, 9-4 is a very good run................for teams like Iowa.
My alma mater gave up College Football due to WW2.
It is 2019.
B1G West teams went 4-1 in bowls.
Other than Clemson vs. Alabama, I am looking forward to 2019.
Plenty of would of, should of and could of.
Back in 1960, Minnesota was a power house in College Football.
I like Tony Dungy as a QB and later as a head coach. But, what does PJ Fleck do, if he can find a QB?
Should be a good year in 2019.
Funny stat:
Creighton won three conference titles.
The Bluejays won two North Central Conference championships and one Missouri Valley Conference championship.
Conference Years
North Central Conference 1925, 1927
Missouri Valley Conference 1936
Total 3 Conference Championships
All 3 are more recent than Iowa State University. I believe ISU last titles were in 1911 and 1912 in the MVC. Was Nebraska still playing in the league at the time?
There are some P5 programs without many conference titles. Many more, without national titles in FBS.
4-8 .... I imagine some of those team(s) beat someone in 2018, as well.
Looking forward to the Fall of 2019. 150th anniversary of College Football.
Creighton won three conference titles.
The Bluejays won two North Central Conference championships and one Missouri Valley Conference championship.
Conference Years
North Central Conference 1925, 1927
Missouri Valley Conference 1936
Total 3 Conference Championships
All 3 are more recent than Iowa State University. I believe ISU last titles were in 1911 and 1912 in the MVC. Was Nebraska still playing in the league at the time?
There are some P5 programs without many conference titles. Many more, without national titles in FBS.
4-8 .... I imagine some of those team(s) beat someone in 2018, as well.
Looking forward to the Fall of 2019. 150th anniversary of College Football.