So long Will Jackson

[Larry Hagman's Liver]

I imagine I wasn't the only one who saw his past "accomplishments" and his stat line coming out of JUCO and thought, "Really? And he's coming to Nebraska on a football scholarship? Well, if you say so..."

Once in a while the sun shines on my ***.

I don't think anyone was jumping out of their chair when he committed. I remember most being focused on McCaffrey since they essentially committed at the same time.

We were looking for more competition at his spot and he offered that at a time when our outside options were extremely limited. Due to his frame and the "late bloomer" outlook, people hoped that Frost, Duval and Fisher could transform him into a two-deep player within a few months time. Not surprising that it didn't happen.

You get what you get when you go summertime shopping for immediately eligible players. At least this one only cost a scholarship for two months.

 

[dand84]

Not everyone that gets picked pans out.

 

[prag_grenade]

If he was threatening to quit the team... we should instead put him at the front of the line to be our kickoff return man even though we might have several several much better options.

I see what you did there.

 

[dinglefritz]

https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/threads/junior-college-db-will-jackson-is-n.210879/


Quite a different story now then when he signed on just a few short months ago.

It IS a different story. We had maybe 2-3 corners when he committed? It still wouldn't be bad to have his physical talent on the team but if can't get himself in the top 5 corners well so be it.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

It IS a different story. We had maybe 2-3 corners when he committed? It still wouldn't be bad to have his physical talent on the team but if can't get himself in the top 5 corners well so be it.

But he was Plan A

 

[BroskiRed]

But he was Plan A

Not sure how you got that out of that other post you referenced. What an asinine assertion.
More contrarian bs. People bring up valid points in this and other threads and all you can do is crow lock step with your tag line.
I’m beginning to believe you don’t even believe your tag line these days

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Not sure how you got that out of that other post you referenced. What an asinine assertion.
More contrarian bs. People bring up valid points in this and other threads and all you can do is crow lock step with your tag line.
I’m beginning to believe you don’t even believe your tag line these days

It was a quote

 

[BroskiRed]

It was a quote

Yeah, clearly (not) So you’re just trolling other posters for your own bizarre crusade (again), it’s clear that this has little to nothing to do with your assessment of the transfer of Jackson and more to do with your own superiority complex issues.
It just helps if you would have quoted it in the first place, it comes off as original thought otherwise. Not your intention in this case

 

[TheBeav815]

Yeah, clearly (not) So you’re just trolling other posters for your own bizarre crusade (again), it’s clear that this has little to nothing to do with your assessment of the transfer of Jackson and more to do with your own superiority complex issues.
It just helps if you would have quoted it in the first place, it comes off as original thought otherwise. Not your intention in this case

U mad, Broski?

 

[BroskiRed]

U mad, Broski?

Tuco has about as much credibility in these posts as Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a White House presser

 

[jolley]

But he was Plan A

I'm not so sure. I think he was more of a contingency. Low cb count at the time, many unknowns, needed depth, signing day had passed, scholarship available. Hedge your bet. Take him. If it works out, great. If not, then what happened in his leaving was not disaster and perhaps planned for, somewhat if it didn't work out. Reading between the lines in the "slow blinker" comments and his immediate announcement to leave indicates to me they fell back on the contingent plan.

This wasn't the worst thing that could have happened with him from the program's point of view. It wasn't the best thing, which would have been him being a starter and all american. The worst thing that could have happened is that the younger players didn't work out and he would have been used while not yet ready.

I can't help but think the possibility of him not working out was always highly considered, but what was really lost in trying? They got him after signing day, if I remember right, and the coaches knew they weren't getting anyone, else. They didn't turn anyone away to bring him in. So, nothing really, numbers wise, has changed if they hadn't experimented like they did. They wouldn't have had anyone else, anyway.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

[jolley]

Tuco has about as much credibility in these posts as Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a White House presser

trolling

 

[TheBeav815]

Tuco has about as much credibility in these posts as Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a White House presser

If you hate the guy that much, the ignore button works great. I haven't heard from a few posters in a long time and it's really ratcheted up my enjoyment of this board.

 

[Ewooc]

Cant compete.... wasnt getting the playbook.... sorry man i love the fact that this crap isnt going to be coddled anymore.. good luck to him we are building a championship team day by day if you cant put in the work to help your team then its best to move on.

Yep, I think with previous staffs. Things were just given to "favorites" didn't matter how they played or how much the screwed up. With this staff you play when you put in the work, know the system and earn it. Once you earn, you are going to have to keep it.

 

[gw2kpro]

Best of luck to the young man. He has played at a level I could never have dreamed of playing at, but sometimes you get beat out.

I'm encouraged that the coaches are being honest with the kids as to where they stand and are actively attending to the roster and limiting the numbers of kids that aren't going to make the field in BIG play.

 

[TheBeav815]

Sounds like concussions were a big factor with Barnett. Getting to be common for guys to leave the game for those. You only get the one brain in life.

 

[BroskiRed]

If you hate the guy that much, the ignore button works great. I haven't heard from a few posters in a long time and it's really ratcheted up my enjoyment of this board.

I, much like Tuco, don’t use the ignore button. He is both entertaining but obtuse at the same time. He posted this in another thread:

Signing Blades was stupid, but signing Watts and Canty was worth the risk.

Signing 4 star Barnett was dumb, because everyone else was backing off. But signing 2/3 star Anderson was brilliant.

Barnett was a "4 star that never panned out" but signing a 2 star like Will Jackson who had already been at 3 different schools well that was worth it.

Lamar Jackson is a 4 star prima donna from Cali, Will Jackson is a 2 star from wherever. Yet Will Jackson bolted because he didn't like his place in the pecking order, Lamar Jackson is starting and improving every day.

He’s plenty entertaining, I enjoy his posts, I don’t enjoy him being obtuse and not up front about his opinion versus trolling others
He’s a knowledgeable football guy and I respect his opinion I wouldn’t be wasting my time replying to his posts otherwise

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I, much like Tuco, don’t use the ignore button. He is both entertaining but obtuse at the same time. He posted this in another thread:


He’s plenty entertaining, I enjoy his posts, I don’t enjoy him being obtuse and not up front about his opinion versus trolling others
He’s a knowledgeable football guy and I respect his opinion I wouldn’t be wasting my time replying to his posts otherwise

So you don't like when I point out hypocrisy of posters? That's cool. I don't think that is being obtuse though. What I am doing is pointing out that fans are quick to criticize decisions and results from the past, and quick to applaud decisions and potential results of the current and future when the circumstances, at the time of the decision are similar.

I am usually up front with my opinion. There are times when I could just as easily ignore something but choose to challenge an opinion that appears to be contrary to what a poster has said in the past about a topic or player.

As far as Will Jackson goes, people were generally excited about picking him up. It wasn't just the thread I posted, but others as well. Now they want to act like they didn't. People were just as excited about the Vaha Vainuku as well. For no other reason that he was brought in by this staff.

 

[TheBeav815]

 

[BroskiRed]

So you don't like when I point out hypocrisy of posters? That's cool. I don't think that is being obtuse though. What I am doing is pointing out that fans are quick to criticize decisions and results from the past, and quick to applaud decisions and potential results of the current and future when the circumstances, at the time of the decision are similar.

I am usually up front with my opinion. There are times when I could just as easily ignore something but choose to challenge an opinion that appears to be contrary to what a poster has said in the past about a topic or player.

As far as Will Jackson goes, people were generally excited about picking him up. It wasn't just the thread I posted, but others as well. Now they want to act like they didn't. People were just as excited about the Vaha Vainuku as well. For no other reason that he was brought in by this staff.

Quite a different story now then when he signed on just a few short months ago.

I just didn’t know what you are referring to about “the story”
Thanks for clarifying

 

[GeorgeFlippin]

Much anger festering with less than two weeks to kickoff.

 

[inWV]

Perhaps the staff to a bit of a flyer on Jackson. Lucky he selected the eject button. Sometimes adding kids like that pays off, but if not, dead weight on the roster can accrue.
Most of the roster turnover will be accomplished by the time the 2019 class is signed.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

So you don't like when I point out hypocrisy of posters? That's cool. I don't think that is being obtuse though. What I am doing is pointing out that fans are quick to criticize decisions and results from the past, and quick to applaud decisions and potential results of the current and future when the circumstances, at the time of the decision are similar.

I am usually up front with my opinion. There are times when I could just as easily ignore something but choose to challenge an opinion that appears to be contrary to what a poster has said in the past about a topic or player.

As far as Will Jackson goes, people were generally excited about picking him up. It wasn't just the thread I posted, but others as well. Now they want to act like they didn't. People were just as excited about the Vaha Vainuku as well. For no other reason that he was brought in by this staff.

Maybe I'm missing something here but what posters are pulling a 180? Can't you be excited to get a recruit and equally fine if down the road they decide to leave the program? I'm not saying I'm excited he's leaving but its better than him not taking up a scholarship the next two years if he cant surpass the young guns. I don't see this as people being delusional Frost homers, I call it a fan being a fanatic. How many prospects can you think of that Riley signed that were dogged on this board?

 

[oldjar07]

So you don't like when I point out hypocrisy of posters? That's cool. I don't think that is being obtuse though. What I am doing is pointing out that fans are quick to criticize decisions and results from the past, and quick to applaud decisions and potential results of the current and future when the circumstances, at the time of the decision are similar.

I am usually up front with my opinion. There are times when I could just as easily ignore something but choose to challenge an opinion that appears to be contrary to what a poster has said in the past about a topic or player.

As far as Will Jackson goes, people were generally excited about picking him up. It wasn't just the thread I posted, but others as well. Now they want to act like they didn't. People were just as excited about the Vaha Vainuku as well. For no other reason that he was brought in by this staff.

Why do you feel the need to call out other people's hypocrisy? I see it all the time. Most of the time I just ignore it. People get excited about new recruits. And when those same recruits don't pan out, they're ok if they leave because they trust the coaching staff's decisions. Is that really all that surprising? I just don't see what you get out of calling people out.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Why do you feel the need to call out other people's hypocrisy? I see it all the time. Most of the time I just ignore it. People get excited about new recruits. And when those same recruits don't pan out, they're ok if they leave because they trust the coaching staff's decisions. Is that really all that surprising? I just don't see what you get out of calling people out.

Why not call it out? Why do you care what I post or why I post it. You stalk me and comment on every single post I make. Why do you feel the need to do that? Frankly, I don't care why you do, or that you do, in fact please continue. It makes the board entertaining.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am not violating any of the board rules, I haven't been censored by any of the mods, I haven't been given a timeout. I don't typically call people names, I just questioned why they post what they post and try to get them to defend why they think differently 2 months later, or what makes it acceptable for one coach to do something and it is the smartest decision you could make but another does the same thing and it's the dumbest decision you could make. It's just questions and answers, if you have an opinion, why not defend it with something other than .... because

 

[huskerfan1414]

Nothing about thjs is hypocritical. Fans were excited about a commit in a spot needing attention.
He proved he doesnt want competition. In practice. Reported he left due to depth chart.
Fans say good riddence.
Its not like fans knew he wouldnt want to compete. ``i love how he expects to start and will pout an threaten to quit the second he realizes hes not!!!`` Said no one ever since its always assumed a recruit will compete. All things equal if you will.
Same thing happened with other players. Harrison beck?
Tuco is trying too hard. His hate of husker fans is getting to him.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Nothing about thjs is hypocritical. Fans were excited about a commit in a spot needing attention.
He proved he doesnt want competition. In practice. Reported he left due to depth chart.
Fans say good riddence.
Its not like fans knew he wouldnt want to compete. ``i love how he expects to start and will pout an threaten to quit the second he realizes hes not!!!`` Said no one ever since its always assumed a recruit will compete. All things equal if you will.
Same thing happened with other players. Harrison beck?
Tuco is trying too hard. His hate of husker fans is getting to him.

You are too sensitive there 1414. I have no hate for anyone.

 

[Skerz4Life50]

Why do you feel the need to call out other people's hypocrisy? I see it all the time. Most of the time I just ignore it. People get excited about new recruits. And when those same recruits don't pan out, they're ok if they leave because they trust the coaching staff's decisions. Is that really all that surprising? I just don't see what you get out of calling people out.

Why do you and others feel the need to call out anyone who raises questions or red flags about a recruit and aren’t automatically excited a kid commited to NU? It seems anyone who does that constantly has to defend why they feel a recruit might not be completely worthy of a scholarship. Then when it is proven that there were issues and red flags, it suddenly isn’t ok to call some out?

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Jackson committed when the talent in the back field was weak and sparse, now it is the most improved part of the team and has depth. Very few players play in programs where the coach says they are meant to be replaced and they are expected to help their teammates even if it means they are passed up. For players like jackson, playing time is life or death, at least in his mind. Many of these kids don't have a reliable degree to fall back on, they don't have a stable situation at home to go back to, their prospects for the future have revolved around football for more than 10 years. They have been elevated by their talent but offered little more than a chance to jump up to the next level. It is a sad fact of the game that so few will ever make money from football, or use their degrees. Hell the university system dictates that most college kids won't use their degrees. If I was the maker of my destiny for my family line, had no family history of college and little stability outside of football I would probably keep transferring until I was the starter. It is the only way to get enough reps and exposure to make the NFL as a CB. I don't think it is fair to call it a fear competition but a realization that every rep and every snap that they aren't 1st team is hurting their chances at a career.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Jackson committed when the talent in the back field was weak and sparse, now it is the most improved part of the team and has depth. Very few players play in programs where the coach says they are meant to be replaced and they are expected to help their teammates even if it means they are passed up. For players like jackson, playing time is life or death, at least in his mind. Many of these kids don't have a reliable degree to fall back on, they don't have a stable situation at home to go back to, their prospects for the future have revolved around football for more than 10 years. They have been elevated by their talent but offered little more than a chance to jump up to the next level. It is a sad fact of the game that so few will ever make money from football, or use their degrees. Hell the university system dictates that most college kids won't use their degrees. If I was the maker of my destiny for my family line, had no family history of college and little stability outside of football I would probably keep transferring until I was the starter. It is the only way to get enough reps and exposure to make the NFL as a CB. I don't think it is fair to call it a fear competition but a realization that every rep and every snap that they aren't 1st team is hurting their chances at a career.

So are you saying that, knowing that they couldn't use the scholarshi?p in 2018 anyway, the staff should have done more to keep him in school and do what they could to show him how a college degree could benefit him in the future? Or do you just let him walk?

I tend to think you just let him walk. As sad as the story you paint may be, I can promise you every single player has been told 1000 times that they can't count on football forever and they need an education to fall back on just in case football doesn't work out.

 

[oldjar07]

Why do you and others feel the need to call out anyone who raises questions or red flags about a recruit and aren’t automatically excited a kid commited to NU? It seems anyone who does that constantly has to defend why they feel a recruit might not be completely worthy of a scholarship. Then when it is proven that there were issues and red flags, it suddenly isn’t ok to call some out?

That's not me. Don't know if I've ever called someone out about a recruit. I'm pretty sure the poster I was quoting has been very defensive of some recruits, just look at his comments on Jalin Barnett. Not that that's a bad thing.

For any recruit we get, there are going to be a lot of people who are excited about it, and there are going to be comments like "He's a guy who could play right away." A lot of recruits this was said about never even ended up contributing, let alone starting right away.

I just don't see why there's a need to call out people who were excited about a recruit. Recruits don't pan out all the time. I think it's ridiculous that people have to defend comments they might have made two years ago in the intial excitement of getting a new commit. I mean do you not want people to get excited about recruiting? What's the point of even following recruiting then or even being on this site if you can't get excited about it once in a while?

 

[oldjar07]

Why do you and others feel the need to call out anyone who raises questions or red flags about a recruit and aren’t automatically excited a kid commited to NU? It seems anyone who does that constantly has to defend why they feel a recruit might not be completely worthy of a scholarship. Then when it is proven that there were issues and red flags, it suddenly isn’t ok to call some out?

And if you're going to raise questions or red flags about a recruit, you better have something to back it up. The burden of proof is on you because you're going to be going against the coaching staff and most of the fan base. If you don't think a commit is worthy of a scholarship, it shouldn't be surprising that you're probably going to have to defend yourself with that viewpoint.

 

[barney44]

Tuco has about as much credibility in these posts as Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a White House presser

She’s handed some people (lol, Acosta) their asses and I’ve enjoyed watching it.

 

[huskernaut_rivals292165]

She’s handed some people (lol, Acosta) their asses and I’ve enjoyed watching it.

LOL yep, should have chosen a different person to attempt to make a point. She skewers people on a daily basis .